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Old 11-03-2012, 02:18 PM   #1
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Hello,

I bought Sony Wega TV, European model number: KV-29CS60.

I would like to get the best picture quality from it because I am using it as a monitor for my PS2 gaming console and I plan to make gaming photos and videos.

This console is supporting every kind of input, however the TV does not have any Component input.

I read that Component input is the best option for highest picture quality, that’s why I would like to connect PS2 into my TV this way.

Here are a few methods I’ve tried without any success:

1.) I connected the cables directly to my TV using this method. Sound worked perfectly but the picture on my TV was only black and white.

2.) I bought this VGA box and I connected PS2 to it using Component cable and I connected DVI to Component cable into my TV. There was no picture and sound at all.

3.) I used this RGB adapter and I connected component to it and I connected it through SCART into my TV. I had no picture and sound at all.

The only method which comes to my mind and I have not tried it yet: http://www.ehow.com/how_5883591_hook...ee-inputs.html

The converter is not very cheap so that’s why I would like to hear the opinion about whether it would work or not or some advices about other methods which I have not discovered yet.

Here is my current solution:

I connected S-Video cables directly to my TV, the picture is great but I still think it would be even better with component connection. Furthermore, if I try to connect S-Video using SCART adapter, I don’t get any sound nor picture.

If component connection would not work with my TV at all, is there any possibility to improve the S-Video picture quality?

Thanks a lot beforehand for reading and your advices.

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Old 11-03-2012, 03:35 PM   #2
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What are you hooking up to the TV?
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:25 PM   #3
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What are you hooking up to the TV?
Just wondering, does it matter what the OP hooks up? Composite is just that. Nothing that they hook up can improve the pic quality. Not trying to be a jerk Rbinck, but clue me in if the OP can hook anything up via composite for better pic quality.
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It seems the post is not complete either, as the link did not work, and we have no idea what he is talking about to start with.
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:24 PM   #5
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Thanks for the answers so far guys.

I thought that writing what I want to hook up would not matter because each of devices I want to hook up does support component, the problem is my TV not having any component input.

So I am talking about the component signal which I would like to transfer into my TV to improve picture quality. I am a complete greenhorn, so correct me if I am wrong.

If the method I posted above would not work, I'd then wonder what these composite to component adapters are for, because otherwise I'd just buy a composite cable for 2$ for the same result as the $100 converter?

The link does not work because I don't have 5 posts on this forum yet, so I had to make a space in it to be able to write it. I thought people would notice.
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I edited the first post to describe the situation and make it less confusing. Also I am now able to post links and pictures. I hope you will read it through and give some advices.
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"1.) I connected the cables directly to my TV using this method. Sound worked perfectly but the picture on my TV was only black and white."

No, you did not use the method described in the link-- all this article says is that if you need a three-conductor composite (RYW) connection you can use three-conductor COMPONENT cables (RBG). If your TV has no COMPONENT inputs, then you should not use the Component outputs of any connected device!
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:46 PM   #8
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Thanks a lot for the answer. Indeed I understood the whole article wrongly. Are you saying that there is no way to transfer component into composite only TV or that just the described method would not work?

I would like some more elaboration of my situation because I hardly understand it due to being completely new to this.

Some answers to my questions and more advices would be great too.
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You could get one of these--

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...FYw-MgodShAALA

. . . but I'd not be expecting any significant increase in picture quality
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:58 PM   #10
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Big thanks again for the answer.

However are you 100% sure it would work? I am a bit confused because all of my above methods did not work - the TV does not seem to support component at all. How exactly the converter works? Does the converter make that the TV thinks itís receiveing composite signal although the signal is in fact component?

I also wanted to ask whether there are some differences in picture quality of each converter because I noticed devices which cost much more than $100 but some cost about only $50.

Thanks again beforehand.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:23 PM   #11
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These converters are for connecting device with component outputs and NO composite output --->> to devices with NO component inputs but with composite inputs.

They are NOT going to give you the result you are looking for . . .
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The BEST way to connect a video device with composite-video outputs to a TV that only has composite-video inputs, is to connect the composite-video output of the device DIRECTLY to the TV's composite-video input. No converter is needed nor is one going to give you a better picture.

If you have a standard a/v cable with red, white and yellow RCA plugs, use it. The red and white connectors pass the audio while the yellow one passes the video.

If you don't have such a cable but you do have a component-video cable you can use it as long as you connect it so that the two yellow sockets (one on the device and one on the TV) are connected to each other, the two red sockets are connected to each other and the 2 white sockets are connected to each other. In this case you are simply using the component-video cable to accomplish the same task as a standard composite-video plus audio cable would if you had one. It will not improve the video quality.

Under no circumstances should you attempt to connect the component-video output of a video device directly to the composite-video input on your TV. They are NOT compatible. The component-video output sends VIDEO signals through ALL THREE wires and does not send any audio. The composite-video input only accepts video via ONE of its sockets (the yellow one). The red and white sockets are for audio only.
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Thanks again for the answer, finally I know what the converter is for and that itís a NO in my way of attaining plans.

However I am not sure if you guys are getting me right, maybe my English is bad or I am just not able to explain everything properly. Iíll try it the shorter way.

The gaming console supports EVERY kind of inputs, TV supports only composite and S-Video and SCART.

When comparing SCART, S-Video and Composite picture quality on my TV, S-Video seems to be much better in terms of colours and sharpness, however I read that using Component would be even better.

I would like to ask whether there is any way to get Component into this TV because then I would attain the best graphics possible.

If there is no way of doing so, I would have to use S-Video or find a TV with component inputs. Or is there any way to improve S-Video picture quality?
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Thanks again for the answer, finally I know what the converter is for and that it’s a NO in my way of attaining plans.

However I am not sure if you guys are getting me right, maybe my English is bad or I am just not able to explain everything properly. I’ll try it the shorter way.

The gaming console supports EVERY kind of inputs Do you mean OUTPUTS?, TV supports only composite and S-Video and SCART.

When comparing SCART, S-Video and Composite picture quality on my TV, S-Video seems to be much better in terms of colours and sharpness, however I read that using Component would be even better.

I would like to ask whether there is any way to get Component into this TV because then I would attain the best graphics possible. NO!

If there is no way of doing so, I would have to use S-Video or find a TV with component inputs. Or is there any way to improve S-Video picture quality?

Have you considered a Component to SCART cable/Adapter?
http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tv...art-cable.html

If you have an HDMI output?

Indigo Banana Media RCA to SCART Adapter - 3x Composite RCA Phono Socket to SCART Plug (11 Pin Scart Input Only) - Connect TV to PS2, Wii, Xbox, PlayStation, Gamecube, NES, SNES, DVD & VHS Player and More!

http://www.amazon.com/Indigo-Banana-...t+to+scart+ps2
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Thanks again for the answer, finally I know what the converter is for and that itís a NO in my way of attaining plans.

However I am not sure if you guys are getting me right, maybe my English is bad or I am just not able to explain everything properly. Iíll try it the shorter way.

The gaming console supports EVERY kind of inputs, TV supports only composite and S-Video and SCART.

When comparing SCART, S-Video and Composite picture quality on my TV, S-Video seems to be much better in terms of colours and sharpness, however I read that using Component would be even better.

I would like to ask whether there is any way to get Component into this TV because then I would attain the best graphics possible.

If there is no way of doing so, I would have to use S-Video or find a TV with component inputs. Or is there any way to improve S-Video picture quality?
A couple things that might help you.

Component Video - Is where the video elements are separate (eg. Red, Green, and Blue (RGB) or Color Difference (Y, R-Y, and B-Y) or (Y, Pr, and Pb) or Luminance and Chroma (Y, C)) Y = Luminance
Luminance is the amount of light and Chroma is the color.

Composite Video - Is where all of the video elements are mixed together. R, G, B, H, & V. Not only are the three primary colors added together but the horizontal and vertical sync is added to the signal. The horizontal sync and vertical sync stabilize the picture.

So if your monitor only has the composite video in it will not understand the component signal. The reason why your picture was B&W when you tried going component out of your game console to the TV is because the Green output is also sometimes the Y or Luminance output so the picture would be there but without color because it is just Luminance with no chroma. Also a lot of the times sync is added to the Green channel so that is why the TV could lock up to it.

Now after all of that a simple answer to your original question. Since your monitor has S-video in just use that input because that is component. S-video is (Y, C) so it sends the luminance and chroma separate.
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