Really PO'd at Comcast!

bicker · 06-20-2009, 03:08 AM

No, they are already well over 1000, counting that way.

In Detroit, Comcast's total stands at 104, counted exactly the same way DirecTV counts their channels.

zip2play · 06-20-2009, 08:28 AM

bicker,

Does Comcast pay you by the hour or per post?

"Regulated limited basic"...no such thing in in the largest city in New Jersey. If the requirement exists, then it is not regulated becasue Comcast DOES NOT offer it.

Do the high rise buildings, say 20 stories and up, in your area generally sport antennae sticking from windows and thus give a good alternative to cable. Do all windows allow for a western exposure (if you'rein the East) to get satellite, or Eastern exposures in the West? You know all those magical buildings with NICE owners.

No, it's not a rotten landlord that makes TV reception a chore, it's a rotten company called Comcast, your likely employer! (Sigh, but I guess you'll deny the obvious!) You probably get your cable for free as an employee?

I live in the largest city in the most densely populated state and have Comcast, UNREGULATED Comcast, overpriced Comcast, incompetent Comcast, as my only choice.

Only a fool would say one should MOVE to avoid being tortured by a TV cable company.

bicker · 06-20-2009, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by zip2play

Does Comcast pay you by the hour or per post?

I have nothing to do with Comcast. I post messages about Time Warner, Verizon, Cox, AT&T, DirecTV, Dish Network, Disney, American Airlines, General Electric, Dell, Microsoft, Sony, Walmart, Subaru, etc. You're allowing your personal animosity for Comcast to confuse the issue. I object to the self-centered über-consumerism that many folks demonstrate in their baseless and myopic whining online.

Now that we've gotten that out of they way, how about you stick to the topic instead of engaging in flame-baiting?

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Originally Posted by zip2play

"Regulated limited basic"...no such thing in in the largest city in New Jersey.

Bull. Comcast is providing a regulated service that provides all the local broadcast channels for a regulated price.

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Originally Posted by zip2play

You know all those magical buildings with NICE owners.

Stop blaming other people for the ramifications of decisions you made in the past.

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Originally Posted by zip2play

No, it's not a rotten landlord that makes TV reception a chore, it's a rotten company called Comcast, your likely employer!

Ridiculous. People can disagree with your perspective without working for the company you hate.

Keep to the topic.

85MustangJeff · 06-20-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Loves2Watch

Many of those "100 channels" will be pay per view, RSN's and other premium channels that will cost more $.

I called Comcast to ask about the 100 channels in specific. The answer I received was vary vague to say the least. I was told not to worry about any extra fees as I am already subscribing to every channel in their lineup minus international channels. I guess I will have to wait and see...

JEFF

crabby_bob · 06-20-2009, 06:35 PM

I thought this was interesting reading. I added the boldface.

"In 2004 and 2007, the American Customer Satisfaction Index survey found that Comcast had the worst customer satisfaction rating of any company or government agency in the country, including the Internal Revenue Service.[39] Comcast's Customer Service Rating by the ACSI surveys indicate that the company's customer service has not improved since the surveys began in 2001. Analysis of the surveys states that "Comcast is one of the lowest scoring companies in ACSI. As its customer satisfaction eroded by 7% over the past year, revenue increased by 12%." The ACSI analysis also addresses this contradiction, stating that "Such pricing power usually comes with some level of monopoly protection and most cable companies have little competition at the local level. This also means that a cable company can do well financially even though its customers are not particularly satisfied."[40][41]

Here's the whole link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comcast

Loves2Watch · 06-20-2009, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by crabby_bob

I thought this was interesting reading. I added the boldface.

"In 2004 and 2007, the American Customer Satisfaction Index survey found that Comcast had the worst customer satisfaction rating of any company or government agency in the country, including the Internal Revenue Service.[39] Comcast's Customer Service Rating by the ACSI surveys indicate that the company's customer service has not improved since the surveys began in 2001. Analysis of the surveys states that "Comcast is one of the lowest scoring companies in ACSI. As its customer satisfaction eroded by 7% over the past year, revenue increased by 12%." The ACSI analysis also addresses this contradiction, stating that "Such pricing power usually comes with some level of monopoly protection and most cable companies have little competition at the local level. This also means that a cable company can do well financially even though its customers are not particularly satisfied."[40][41]

Here's the whole link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comcast

That makes sense...

Tankerbot · 06-20-2009, 11:56 PM

I live in a small town. Levelland, Texas.

As such I get NO other competitive cable then Charter Communications. They don't have HD either. Mostly due to crappy infrestructure. They don't even carry HD locals. Just their digital cable service which is just SD digitial, not HD.

But hey, at least I'm not stuck with Comcast. Seems this company has a lot of customer horror stories... :P

So anyone claiming that there is competitive cable companies in all municipalities is pure hogwash. Also, not all of us have the money to chose a "decent" place to live. I was pretty much forced to live in the nearest town due to my parents running up on unpayable eletric bill with both competing electric companies in Lubbock. So to say that if we cared enough about what cable service we want that we would have to move to maybe Amerillio or Dallas, would be impossible. Since moving cost money too!

Not all of us have any "choice" where we want to live you know.

Would you spend a couple thousand dollors more in gas money/U-Haul rental to go to a more distant city just to find better Cable service? Try and see what's wrong with that picture! Pretty much all small towns withen a hundred miles of Levellend (other then good ol Lubbock) have pretty much one, count them, ONE cable service. That is it! No competition.

Luckily all you city slickers don't have to worry and have a buffet of cable companies to chose from!

But for me it's not all bad news. Pretty soon, a telephone company called "NTS Communications" is rolling out their "Fiber2User" service. Which is similer to FiOS. Heck it may be the same thing....

I pretty much know that my parents will get it when it becomes available as it is supposed to offer phone, really fast internet, AND digital TV service. Not sure what NTS contracts with in the TV department though....

We currently don't have any Cable subscription. We either watch over the air HD (though only I am watching it in HD as the living room TV is a crappy SD CRT that is only 20' inches , I feel sorry for them, they don't know what their missing :P) or use the Internet to fill the gap. So cable TV isn't exactly a necessity...

bicker · 06-21-2009, 05:27 AM

You always have choices. You may evaluate your choices and find that the best choice precludes other choices, or you may realize that previous choices preempted some choices you would have had if you made a different choice previously, but that's all on you. Again, the point is to stop avoiding your own personal responsibility, by fostering baseless, often factually inaccurate, accusations regarding others.

85MustangJeff · 06-21-2009, 10:52 AM

My choices here are Comcast, Dish or Direct TV. FIOS is in the area it's actually one town over. Verizon can't tell me when it would be available to me. I had Dish when I worked for them and it was OK, I especially enjoyed the 625, the DVR on that is fantastic.

The reason I went with Comcast was because of pricing believe it or not. I have the VoIP phone, top tier internet and two TIVO HD boxes with every channel minus internationals for 179.00 a month. When I priced out satellite service it was going to run me about 100 a month on a 2 year agreement.

Everyone who I know who has Direct TV complain about losing their HD in any type of bad weather. We have bad winters here and I don't feel like playing with a Dish every time we have bad weather. Dish was good and of course I know the system but they don't have as much as HD as DTV.

I guess I am going to stick it out for now and see when FIOS gets here what they are offering in my area. I just have to be patient and wait it out...

JEFF

bicker · 06-21-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 85MustangJeff

FIOS is in the area it's actually one town over. Verizon can't tell me when it would be available to me.

What I find so remarkable is how many people fail to realize how much Verizon is cherry-picking. They complain about Comcast, Time Warner, Cox, Charter, U-verse, Cablevision, DirecTV, or Dish Network providing them service, but don't complain about Verizon not providing them services. How screwed up is that?

Loves2Watch · 06-21-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bicker

What I find so remarkable is how many people fail to realize how much Verizon is cherry-picking. They complain about Comcast, Time Warner, Cox, Charter, U-verse, Cablevision, DirecTV, or Dish Network providing them service, but don't complain about Verizon not providing them services. How screwed up is that?

It still seems to be about all of these wire based communication company monopolies. I thought breaking up Ma Bell many years ago would reduce costs and stop the monopoly. It seems to be getting back to where it was in the beginning, worse even and I'll be damned if my rates were ever lowered for any land line based service, just more hidden fees (many of them these days) rate hikes and taxes.

bicker · 06-21-2009, 03:44 PM

Then your memory is pretty bad. What we have today is a competitive marketplace. What we had back then, when I worked there, was not a competitive marketplace.

Loves2Watch · 06-21-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bicker

Then your memory is pretty bad. What we have today is a competitive marketplace. What we had back then, when I worked there, was not a competitive marketplace.

Competitive yes but consumer centric as promised, a big no.

bicker · 06-21-2009, 04:02 PM

Who promised you that the marketplace would be "consumer centric" ????

They told us that they were breaking up our company because it would give customers more choices; not because it would make the market "consumer centric". That's an unreasonable expectation you hold.

85MustangJeff · 06-22-2009, 05:33 AM

I hope that I am not coming across as complaining here. I am really excited that Verizon is on the bend and on the horizon. Outside of satellite service Comcast doesn't feel they have competition here in Acushnet, MA. That is directly from their mouths! I believe I stated this in an earlier post but my understanding is that Verizon has to go town to town or city by city to ask permission to lay their cables. We currently do not have any Verizon FIOS lines on our poles, hopefully soon. Comcast has had a hold for too long and hopefully competition will shake things up for me here. :-)

JEFF

06-20-2009, 11:56 PM	#52
Tankerbot Interdimisional Spy Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Levelland TX Age: 22 Posts: 94	I live in a small town. Levelland, Texas. As such I get NO other competitive cable then Charter Communications. They don't have HD either. Mostly due to crappy infrestructure. They don't even carry HD locals. Just their digital cable service which is just SD digitial, not HD. But hey, at least I'm not stuck with Comcast. Seems this company has a lot of customer horror stories... :P So anyone claiming that there is competitive cable companies in all municipalities is pure hogwash. Also, not all of us have the money to chose a "decent" place to live. I was pretty much forced to live in the nearest town due to my parents running up on unpayable eletric bill with both competing electric companies in Lubbock. So to say that if we cared enough about what cable service we want that we would have to move to maybe Amerillio or Dallas, would be impossible. Since moving cost money too! Not all of us have any "choice" where we want to live you know. Would you spend a couple thousand dollors more in gas money/U-Haul rental to go to a more distant city just to find better Cable service? Try and see what's wrong with that picture! Pretty much all small towns withen a hundred miles of Levellend (other then good ol Lubbock) have pretty much one, count them, ONE cable service. That is it! No competition. Luckily all you city slickers don't have to worry and have a buffet of cable companies to chose from! But for me it's not all bad news. Pretty soon, a telephone company called "NTS Communications" is rolling out their "Fiber2User" service. Which is similer to FiOS. Heck it may be the same thing.... I pretty much know that my parents will get it when it becomes available as it is supposed to offer phone, really fast internet, AND digital TV service. Not sure what NTS contracts with in the TV department though.... We currently don't have any Cable subscription. We either watch over the air HD (though only I am watching it in HD as the living room TV is a crappy SD CRT that is only 20' inches , I feel sorry for them, they don't know what their missing :P) or use the Internet to fill the gap. So cable TV isn't exactly a necessity... Last edited by Tankerbot; 06-21-2009 at 12:05 AM.

06-21-2009, 10:52 AM	#54
85MustangJeff HD Rocks! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Acushnet, Massachusetts Age: 34 Posts: 103	My choices here are Comcast, Dish or Direct TV. FIOS is in the area it's actually one town over. Verizon can't tell me when it would be available to me. I had Dish when I worked for them and it was OK, I especially enjoyed the 625, the DVR on that is fantastic. The reason I went with Comcast was because of pricing believe it or not. I have the VoIP phone, top tier internet and two TIVO HD boxes with every channel minus internationals for 179.00 a month. When I priced out satellite service it was going to run me about 100 a month on a 2 year agreement. Everyone who I know who has Direct TV complain about losing their HD in any type of bad weather. We have bad winters here and I don't feel like playing with a Dish every time we have bad weather. Dish was good and of course I know the system but they don't have as much as HD as DTV. I guess I am going to stick it out for now and see when FIOS gets here what they are offering in my area. I just have to be patient and wait it out... JEFF __________________ Epson Home Cinema 6100 Projector 100" Screen 16:9 Format Fixed Frame Monster Speaker Cables & HDMI Monster HDP 2400 Panasonic DMP-BD55 Comcast HD Tivo Direct TV HD DVR Onkyo HT-R530 2 Def Tech Pro Monitors 800 1 Def Tech Pro Center 1000 ****************************** FUTURE PURCHASES Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 @4 Pioneer Elite SC07 HT Receiver

06-22-2009, 05:33 AM	#60
85MustangJeff HD Rocks! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Acushnet, Massachusetts Age: 34 Posts: 103	I hope that I am not coming across as complaining here. I am really excited that Verizon is on the bend and on the horizon. Outside of satellite service Comcast doesn't feel they have competition here in Acushnet, MA. That is directly from their mouths! I believe I stated this in an earlier post but my understanding is that Verizon has to go town to town or city by city to ask permission to lay their cables. We currently do not have any Verizon FIOS lines on our poles, hopefully soon. Comcast has had a hold for too long and hopefully competition will shake things up for me here. :-) JEFF __________________ Epson Home Cinema 6100 Projector 100" Screen 16:9 Format Fixed Frame Monster Speaker Cables & HDMI Monster HDP 2400 Panasonic DMP-BD55 Comcast HD Tivo Direct TV HD DVR Onkyo HT-R530 2 Def Tech Pro Monitors 800 1 Def Tech Pro Center 1000 ****************************** FUTURE PURCHASES Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 @4 Pioneer Elite SC07 HT Receiver

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06-20-2009, 03:08 AM	#46
bicker High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burlington, MA Posts: 1,530	No, they are already well over 1000, counting that way. In Detroit, Comcast's total stands at 104, counted exactly the same way DirecTV counts their channels.

06-20-2009, 08:28 AM	#47
zip2play TV...INDISPENSIBLE Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 244	bicker, Does Comcast pay you by the hour or per post? "Regulated limited basic"...no such thing in in the largest city in New Jersey. If the requirement exists, then it is not regulated becasue Comcast DOES NOT offer it. Do the high rise buildings, say 20 stories and up, in your area generally sport antennae sticking from windows and thus give a good alternative to cable. Do all windows allow for a western exposure (if you'rein the East) to get satellite, or Eastern exposures in the West? You know all those magical buildings with NICE owners. No, it's not a rotten landlord that makes TV reception a chore, it's a rotten company called Comcast, your likely employer! (Sigh, but I guess you'll deny the obvious!) You probably get your cable for free as an employee? I live in the largest city in the most densely populated state and have Comcast, UNREGULATED Comcast, overpriced Comcast, incompetent Comcast, as my only choice. Only a fool would say one should MOVE to avoid being tortured by a TV cable company.

06-20-2009, 06:35 PM	#50
crabby_bob High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 120	I thought this was interesting reading. I added the boldface. "In 2004 and 2007, the American Customer Satisfaction Index survey found that Comcast had the worst customer satisfaction rating of any company or government agency in the country, including the Internal Revenue Service.[39] Comcast's Customer Service Rating by the ACSI surveys indicate that the company's customer service has not improved since the surveys began in 2001. Analysis of the surveys states that "Comcast is one of the lowest scoring companies in ACSI. As its customer satisfaction eroded by 7% over the past year, revenue increased by 12%." The ACSI analysis also addresses this contradiction, stating that "Such pricing power usually comes with some level of monopoly protection and most cable companies have little competition at the local level. This also means that a cable company can do well financially even though its customers are not particularly satisfied."[40][41] Here's the whole link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comcast

06-21-2009, 05:27 AM	#53
bicker High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burlington, MA Posts: 1,530	You always have choices. You may evaluate your choices and find that the best choice precludes other choices, or you may realize that previous choices preempted some choices you would have had if you made a different choice previously, but that's all on you. Again, the point is to stop avoiding your own personal responsibility, by fostering baseless, often factually inaccurate, accusations regarding others.

06-21-2009, 03:44 PM	#57
bicker High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burlington, MA Posts: 1,530	Then your memory is pretty bad. What we have today is a competitive marketplace. What we had back then, when I worked there, was not a competitive marketplace.

06-21-2009, 04:02 PM	#59
bicker High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Burlington, MA Posts: 1,530	Who promised you that the marketplace would be "consumer centric" ???? They told us that they were breaking up our company because it would give customers more choices; not because it would make the market "consumer centric". That's an unreasonable expectation you hold.