normal blu ray vs. ps3 blu ray

PFC5 · 01-13-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cousin eddie

Having to use a separate remote (bluetooth) is considered an added feature?

That one has me puzzled too.

I would count that as a drawback especially if you like using a universal remote since there are ZERO u-remotes with BT support.

Mash3 · 01-13-2009, 10:54 AM

I was about to pull the trigger on a PS3, but the lack of analog audio outs killed the deal. My home system has a really nice, but old, Yamaha RX-Z1 receiver, and I'm not going to downgrade that just to get HDMI, and I'm unwilling to spend the money to buy an up-to-date equivilent. So, I'm going to run HDMI (DVI, really) straight to the 50" Sony plasma, and utilize the analog outs of the BD player to the Yamaha.

Plus, having a gaming console, with its big, ugly, shiny black and chrome box and juvenile controllers is a huge turnoff, aesthetically. Game play means nothing to me, and new players support every other function nowadays.

Greg

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HD Goofnut · 01-13-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mash3

I was about to pull the trigger on a PS3, but the lack of analog audio outs killed the deal. My home system has a really nice, but old, Yamaha RX-Z1 receiver, and I'm not going to downgrade that just to get HDMI, and I'm unwilling to spend the money to buy an up-to-date equivilent. So, I'm going to run HDMI (DVI, really) straight to the 50" Sony plasma, and utilize the analog outs of the BD player to the Yamaha.

Plus, having a gaming console, with its big, ugly, shiny black and chrome box and juvenile controllers is a huge turnoff, aesthetically. Game play means nothing to me, and new players support every other function nowadays.

Greg

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For its vast level of functionality the PS3 outweighs its ugly looks, but the lack of analog outs does make it rather limited if you have an older receiver.

mobiushky · 01-13-2009, 12:41 PM

It really boils down to what you want out of it. The PS3 is obviously not for everyone. Duh. But for some people, myself included, there simply isn't a better device on the market. To me, the PS3 is a complete media package all in one box. The form factor is irrelevant because you can hide it if you want. (That's my opinion) The fact is, the bluetooth remote allows you to hide it better than any other equipment on the market because you don't even have to have line of sight or glass doors.

For me, the PS3 is such a versatile unit that I have removed every other piece of equipment from my rack. I now have a Dish receiver and the PS3. That's it. Instead of a media extender, a internet access box, a cd player, a BD player, a DVD player, etc, etc.

Biggest benefit to me is the ability to store all of my DVDs on my Media server pc and stream them to either PS3 without having to find the disc. AND I can bounce any of those movies to the PSP wirelessly anywhere in the world that I can get WiFi. Can't do that with any other SAL BD player on the market. But I have with my PSP. Kids karate Dojo has free WiFi. Guess what I do while they are in class? Watch movies on the PSP.

shortyd999 · 01-14-2009, 02:05 PM

It surprises me that some think the PS3 isnt aesthetically pleasing to the eye. I find that the PS3 is beautiful especially standing vertically.

fr8mvr · 01-14-2009, 07:08 PM

Depends. Do you game? The PS3 was always considered the best because it was Profile 2 and the least expensive. Today there are a lot of stand alone players that are profile 2 and cost less.
The best player of 08 was the Panasonic DMP 55k according to Sound & Vision. The sister to it was the DMP 35k cheaper but identical in performance and the first BD player ever to get a Cnet Editors Choice award.. They have been discontinued and replaced with newer models with VOD ability. The internals are the same though.

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Panasonic also introduced the successors to last years' DMP-BD35 and DMP-BD55 players, as well as presenting the first Blu-ray-VHS dual player. All three of the new Blu-ray players ? DMP-BD60, DMP-BD80, DMP-BD70V - combine high quality images with enhanced networking functions, including VIERA Cast?s improved internet functionality that provides access to Amazon VOD?s huge selection of titles. The 2009 line of Blu-ray Disc players continue to incorporate VIERA Link, allowing the consumer to operate their audio/video components, via HDMI, with one remote. In addition, the new Blu-ray players have been designed to reduce power consumption.

Each of the three models employs the PHL Reference Chroma Processor Plus. Developed in collaboration with Panasonic Hollywood Laboratory, this high image processing technology reproduces clear, vivid colors that are faithful to the original film. Panasonic?s three 2009 Blu-ray Disc players feature a high definition audio decoder (Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio Essential) to take advantage of the high quality 7.1 channel surround sound now integrated in Blu-ray Discs. The DMP-BD70V distinguishes itself as the world?s first dual deck VHS-Blu-ray player, providing the consumer with a video product that features multi-format playback allowing the user to play VHS, CD, DVD and 1080p high definition Blu-ray Discs. The BD70V allows for premium 1080p up-conversion for all video formats.

VIERA CAST technology, introduced in Panasonic's PZ850 2008 VIERA Plasma, is now available in Panasonic?s 2009 Blu-ray players. The internet enabled technology lets the consumer access the internet without the need of either an external box or a PC and enjoy the entertainment value provided by such targeted sites as Amazon VOD, with an extensive library of streamed titles, YouTube, Google's Picasa Web Album , Bloomberg and a weather channel. The DMP-BD60, DMP-BD80 and DMP-BD70V include an SD Memory card slot and USB slot, making it easy for the consumer to view and share both digital still images and HD video recorded with an HD camcorder in the AVCHD format.

Panasonic?s Blu-ray players employ high precision 4:4:4 signal technology, which working in tandem with PHL Reference Chroma Processor Plus processes each pixel of the Blu-ray Disc video signal in the horizontal direction, to compliment vertical direction processing. P4HD (Pixel Precision Progressive Processing for HD) is another technology that contributes to the superior picture quality of the Blu-ray players. P4HD processes more than 15 billion pixels per second and applies the optimal processing to every pixel. Panasonic's Blu-ray players further utilize 16-level motion detection to categorize the image motion of each pixel into one of 16 levels; diagonal processing to detect diagonals and correct the pixels accordingly; 1080p up-conversion to up-convert content recorded in the 480i/p or 720p format to 1080p. The Blu-ray players also provide 1080/24p output, thereby reproducing cinema images from a Blu-ray Disc and DVD in their original 24p form with no need for conversion. This allows the user to enjoy cinema images in the same format used in cinema with a 1080/24p compatible TV.

Complimenting the HD audio codecs the three Blu-ray players feature 96kHz surround re-master, a function that enhances the sound quality of CDs and other sources, and even improves the quality of the multi-channel audio data on Blu-ray Discs and DVDs. The DMP-BD80 further enhances the audio experience with 7.1 channel analog out to produce 7.1 surround sound. The BD80 also includes a playback information window that can be used to display detailed image information while a movie is playing.

In order to obtain a reduction in power consumption the 2009 Blu-ray players use Auto Power Stand-By, a function that automatically turns off the player when you return to TV operation using the VIERA Link menu. In addition, the Stand-by Power Save automatically turns off the players' Quick Start function. When VIERA is turned on, Quick Start also turns on. In addition, the development of the UniPhier single chip LSI makes it possible to pack an entire video signal processing circuit onto a single chip. This helps lower power consumption, reduces the number of parts needed and allows for a more compact design. The BD60 consumes 16% less power in standby mode than last years' model, the DMP-BD35.

So if I was buying and not a gamer I'd wait till March for the release of one of these.

shortyd999 · 01-15-2009, 03:51 PM

Question, when I press display while watching a movie on the PS3 whats that in the upper right hand corner displaying? Say for example it may say 7.0mbps or 6.8 or something. What is that indicating?

Scoob · 01-15-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by shortyd999

Question, when I press display while watching a movie on the PS3 whats that in the upper right hand corner displaying? Say for example it may say 7.0mbps or 6.8 or something. What is that indicating?

It is giving you the audio and video bitrate. It also tells you the video and audio format you are hearing.(helpful when trying to get lossless audio)

Scoob · 01-15-2009, 05:03 PM

Well as someone who has had the PS3 quite a while, I'll give you my perspective. I bought it for blu-ray ONLY and was quite pissed off that it was the only blu-ray player that wasn't 500 bucks or greater. I didn't want a stupid gaming machine, I just wanted Blu-ray. (If I remember correctly the Samsung and Sony were around $999.00 at the time) Anyhoo, I used it and was very shocked on how easy it was to use, how fast it loaded and how great the picture and audio were. Then I started to read about what it could do. A few months later I started web browsing, downloading music and pictures to it. Then I bought my first SACD after I got my HMDI Onkyo receiver. The lossless audio on movies and the 5.1 tracks on the SACD's I bought blew me away...................This is an amazing machine. I love that everytime there is a firmware update, I just hook up my ethernet cable and Viola it is downloaded. And now................my kids are addicted to Guitar Hero World Tour. It sounds great coming from my Onkyo reciever and speakers. Yep, I am a convert.......and I used to hate Blu-ray and the PS3. Not anymore!

Joe Las Vegas · 01-16-2009, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rwiggum

Those are all good reasons, but it should be noted that the PS3 does NOT have access to Netflix streaming. It has it's own movie and tv show marketplace, but it's the Xbox 360 that has access to Netflix watch instantly, not the PS3.

I have Netflix on my 360 and it sucks, they only have old crappy movies to watch instantly , the PQ is no better than a DVD and the sound is PCM fs, not Dolby 5.1

markmark1969 · 01-18-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hamiltonpl

Yes as long as you use an HDMI cable. It upscales very nicely for me and all of my SD DVDs have never looked better on my Mits 62" DLP.

Ditto for me. Wife and I were very surprised at the quality of the PS3 upconversion.

Additionally, we had been using a d-link media server for a cpl of years and pairing TVversity and the ps3 was a breeze.

hoosier122 · 01-20-2009, 01:44 AM

After seeing two ROD's on 360's I'm really looking at a PS3. The Blu-ray capability is a major decider in my book.

gmcgown · 01-21-2009, 10:25 AM

I like to insert my smart card from my digital camera in my PS3 and look at the photos on my 1080p Samsung. The reproduction is really impressive...But, I'm not sure the latest PS3 have this feature.

JerseyMatt · 01-23-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mash3

I was about to pull the trigger on a PS3, but the lack of analog audio outs killed the deal. My home system has a really nice, but old, Yamaha RX-Z1 receiver, and I'm not going to downgrade that just to get HDMI, and I'm unwilling to spend the money to buy an up-to-date equivilent. So, I'm going to run HDMI (DVI, really) straight to the 50" Sony plasma, and utilize the analog outs of the BD player to the Yamaha.

Plus, having a gaming console, with its big, ugly, shiny black and chrome box and juvenile controllers is a huge turnoff, aesthetically. Game play means nothing to me, and new players support every other function nowadays.

Greg

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Ummmmm, I don't know what moron you got your information from, but the PS3 DOES have standard analog A/V out (composite, S-Video, and component), as well as TOSLINK digital audio (LPCM and Dolby Digital) and HDMI. You can use either straight HDMI for combined A/V, HDMI video with either analog or optical audio, or analog video with either analog or optical audio.

You also don't have to use the 'juvenile' controllers to operate the DVD/BD features. There is a very nice, full-featured Bluetooth remote control available.

Aside from the fact that the PS3 costs the same as the cheapest (brand-name) standalone BD player, it is capable of other functions as well. Do as you please, I ain't your papa. But at least make your decision based on fact, not what the minimum wage jackass at Worst Buy told you.

BIslander · 01-24-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyMatt

Ummmmm, I don't know what moron you got your information from, but the PS3 DOES have standard analog A/V out (composite, S-Video, and component), as well as TOSLINK digital audio (LPCM and Dolby Digital) and HDMI. You can use either straight HDMI for combined A/V, HDMI video with either analog or optical audio, or analog video with either analog or optical audio.

He was talking about multichannel analog outputs. Those are required for lossless surround audio when connecting to a receiver without HDMI and they do not exist on the PS3.

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Aside from the fact that the PS3 costs the same as the cheapest (brand-name) standalone BD player...

That's no longer true, of course.

The PS3 is a great machine. But, it's not a good fit for everyone and it costs more than other comparably equipped BD standalones these days.

Oh, and welcome to the forum JerseyMatt. But, please lose the attitude.

01-13-2009, 10:54 AM	#32
Mash3 HD Ears and Eyes Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 32	I was about to pull the trigger on a PS3, but the lack of analog audio outs killed the deal. My home system has a really nice, but old, Yamaha RX-Z1 receiver, and I'm not going to downgrade that just to get HDMI, and I'm unwilling to spend the money to buy an up-to-date equivilent. So, I'm going to run HDMI (DVI, really) straight to the 50" Sony plasma, and utilize the analog outs of the BD player to the Yamaha. Plus, having a gaming console, with its big, ugly, shiny black and chrome box and juvenile controllers is a huge turnoff, aesthetically. Game play means nothing to me, and new players support every other function nowadays. Greg . __________________ AT WORK: ATC 300ASL L-C-R 6 Bryston 4B SST2 Pro. 2 Genelec 7073A subwoofer2, 8 QSC SR 110-B Surrounds Neve VRP Legend 96-channel console AT HOME:Yamaha RX-Z1, Polk SDA 2 Mains, HSU Research VTF-3 MK3, JBL 4412 surrounds

01-13-2009, 12:41 PM	#34
mobiushky More than meets the eyes! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: State of Insanity Posts: 3,579	It really boils down to what you want out of it. The PS3 is obviously not for everyone. Duh. But for some people, myself included, there simply isn't a better device on the market. To me, the PS3 is a complete media package all in one box. The form factor is irrelevant because you can hide it if you want. (That's my opinion) The fact is, the bluetooth remote allows you to hide it better than any other equipment on the market because you don't even have to have line of sight or glass doors. For me, the PS3 is such a versatile unit that I have removed every other piece of equipment from my rack. I now have a Dish receiver and the PS3. That's it. Instead of a media extender, a internet access box, a cd player, a BD player, a DVD player, etc, etc. Biggest benefit to me is the ability to store all of my DVDs on my Media server pc and stream them to either PS3 without having to find the disc. AND I can bounce any of those movies to the PSP wirelessly anywhere in the world that I can get WiFi. Can't do that with any other SAL BD player on the market. But I have with my PSP. Kids karate Dojo has free WiFi. Guess what I do while they are in class? Watch movies on the PSP. __________________ DRM is roughly the equivalent of poking you in the eye, repeatedly. ---------------------------------------------------- Main Setup: Pioneer PDP-5070HD Pioneer VSX-23TXH DISH VIP722 PS3 Slim (320Gb) Logitech Harmony One remote All Klipsch speakers Bedroom Setup: Sony KDR-40XBR4 PS3 (320GB) Kids Setup: Panasonic TC-P42X2 PS3 (120Gb w/ BC) I think I have too many PS3s.

01-14-2009, 02:05 PM	#35
shortyd999 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 56	It surprises me that some think the PS3 isnt aesthetically pleasing to the eye. I find that the PS3 is beautiful especially standing vertically. __________________ I Love HD! *Samsung 40" 3D LED (UN40D6420)* *Vizio 42" Plasma (42VPP)* *PS3 80gigs*

01-15-2009, 03:51 PM	#37
shortyd999 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 56	Question, when I press display while watching a movie on the PS3 whats that in the upper right hand corner displaying? Say for example it may say 7.0mbps or 6.8 or something. What is that indicating? __________________ I Love HD! *Samsung 40" 3D LED (UN40D6420)* *Vizio 42" Plasma (42VPP)* *PS3 80gigs*

01-15-2009, 05:03 PM	#39
Scoob High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 349	Well as someone who has had the PS3 quite a while, I'll give you my perspective. I bought it for blu-ray ONLY and was quite pissed off that it was the only blu-ray player that wasn't 500 bucks or greater. I didn't want a stupid gaming machine, I just wanted Blu-ray. (If I remember correctly the Samsung and Sony were around $999.00 at the time) Anyhoo, I used it and was very shocked on how easy it was to use, how fast it loaded and how great the picture and audio were. Then I started to read about what it could do. A few months later I started web browsing, downloading music and pictures to it. Then I bought my first SACD after I got my HMDI Onkyo receiver. The lossless audio on movies and the 5.1 tracks on the SACD's I bought blew me away...................This is an amazing machine. I love that everytime there is a firmware update, I just hook up my ethernet cable and Viola it is downloaded. And now................my kids are addicted to Guitar Hero World Tour. It sounds great coming from my Onkyo reciever and speakers. Yep, I am a convert.......and I used to hate Blu-ray and the PS3. Not anymore! __________________ Panasonic TH-50PZ80U 1080p Plasma Vizio 37 inch 720p LCD 20 GB PS3 Samsung 6500C Blu-ray player Philips BDP 7200 Blu-ray Player Toshiba HD-A1 HD DVD player Onkyo TX-SR605 Audio reciever Canon Vixia HF100 HD camcorder

01-20-2009, 01:44 AM	#42
hoosier122 How can anyone watch standard def? Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 28	After seeing two ROD's on 360's I'm really looking at a PS3. The Blu-ray capability is a major decider in my book.

01-21-2009, 10:25 AM	#43
gmcgown How can anyone watch standard def? Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 23	I like to insert my smart card from my digital camera in my PS3 and look at the photos on my 1080p Samsung. The reproduction is really impressive...But, I'm not sure the latest PS3 have this feature.

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