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Old 11-27-2008, 09:25 PM   #1
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My first post. I have a Sony STR-K750P (home theater in a box) that's several years old now. It's 5.1 capable with DD & DTS, and at this point, I'm perfectly happy with the sound I get. Can I still get the most out of what Blu-ray has to offer as far as the sound I'm going to get? Since the receiver isn't HDMI compatible, am I limited to a player that can output analog signals?

I read that the Panasonic BMP-BD55K is a good Blu-ray option w/analog output. Are there any other quality options that are a bit less expensive?

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Unless your receiver has 5.1/7.1 analog inputs, which I doubt it does, there is no way you will be able to take advantage of the lossless audio BD offers. If it does, then the Panasonic you listed would be a good choice. I not sure of any players that have 5.1/7.1 analog outs and lossless decoders for less than the Panasonci BD55 or Sony 550. I could have missed something however.

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My first post. I have a Sony STR-K750P (home theater in a box) that's several years old now.
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I believe the Sony STR-K750P system used the HT-DDW750 receiver.
HT-DDW750 pdf

If that is the receiver you have, then you only have composite video inputs...(the yellow RCA plug)....you don't have any component connections...(Red/Blue/Green RCA plugs).

As far as video goes you need to be able to connect a bluray player directly to your TV by either a component or HDMI connection.

That receiver does have one optical input and one coaxial input for digital audio for plain ole everyday Dolby Digital (DD) or DTS.

I think you should consider upgrading your Sony Receiver with something like the Sony STR-DG820, or something similiar.



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Thanks for the welcome and the recommendation. I guess I didn't realize quite how far back in the technological stone age I've been living...
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I have an older philips 5.1 digital reciever, it has one optical and one coaxial input, will I need to upgrade when I get my blu ray for christmas? I was looking at that sony reciever that you posted but I don't think I can convince my fiancee' that its a worthwhile investment since I just dropped a bunch of money on a tv.
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I have an older philips 5.1 digital reciever, it has one optical and one coaxial input, will I need to upgrade when I get my blu ray for christmas?
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Do you need to upgrade, no. Basic DD or DTS will still sound good and you can always upgrade later.

I suggested the Sony receiver for watchman, because he already has a Sony system so he would be familiar with it.

For bang for your buck I believe the Onkyo receivers like the TX-SR606 should be considered.

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You can use any surround receiver that has an optical or digital coax input with a Blu Ray and get some pretty excellent sound. Obviously not the newest and greatest, but real good.

Just run the HDMI into the tv and optical or dig. coax into the receiver, go into the Blu Ray set up menu and set the audio to bitstream, DC (dynamic compression-ON) and PCM down sample-OFF, and you are good to go.

Your Blu Ray may have some different audio options, but my Sammy 1400 is set up as indicated and the sound, using an optical cable is excellent.

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You can use any surround receiver that has an optical or digital coax input with a Blu Ray and get some pretty excellent sound. Obviously not the newest and greatest, but real good.

Just run the HDMI into the tv and optical or dig. coax into the receiver, go into the Blu Ray set up menu and set the audio to bitstream, DC (dynamic compression-ON) and PCM down sample-OFF, and you are good to go.

Your Blu Ray may have some different audio options, but my Sammy 1400 is set up as indicated and the sound, using an optical cable is excellent.
dynamic compression should be set to OFF not on if you want the full spectrum of sound and here the full dynamic range regardless of which connection you use.
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You can use any surround receiver that has an optical or digital coax input with a Blu Ray and get some pretty excellent sound. Obviously not the newest and greatest, but real good.

Just run the HDMI into the tv and optical or dig. coax into the receiver, go into the Blu Ray set up menu and set the audio to bitstream, DC (dynamic compression-ON) and PCM down sample-OFF, and you are good to go.

Your Blu Ray may have some different audio options, but my Sammy 1400 is set up as indicated and the sound, using an optical cable is excellent.
great input... this is exactly what I wanted to know!
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PFC5, I thought that too about the DC off when I first got the Blu Ray and tried it both ways. With the DC on I found it better, the sound seemed fuller to me. Remember, I am feeding the sound thru optical, so there is some loss anyway, and it just sounds better. I guess people should try it both ways and pick what works best for them.

There is a short THX sound demonstration at the beginning of the Blu Ray of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull which was excellent for testing the sound. (I think it was the Indy movie, pretty sure.)

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What Dynamic Compression (DC) does is it reduces the difference between the highest sound levels and the lowest levels so the range is less with this set to on. It is like the Night Mode that many receivers have now, and using it at night while others are sleeping (for more dialog equalization compared to explosions for example is the only time it should be used.

It sounds like you need to turn up the volume for just the dialog to the correct level while DC is turned off I think. You should try calibrating your audio so you can hear what I mean.

Certainly people should listen to it the way they like it best, but by setting the individual speaker levels to a calibrated level, then you get what was intended to be heard like in the theater.
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I have an older pioneer vsx-915, this receiver is supossed to have 7.1 capability, I have my HDMI hooked to my tv and I have an optical cable outputting audio to the receiver. The sound is not right, I think there is only 1 channel comming through! The reciever has 5.1 analog inputs, should I be using these? and if so which speakers should be left out side or rear? Or should I run the audio through an optical or dig coax from the bd player directly to receiver.

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I have an older pioneer vsx-915, this receiver is supossed to have 7.1 capability, I have my HDMI hooked to my tv and I have an optical cable outputting audio to the receiver. The sound is not right, I think there is only 1 channel comming through! The reciever has 5.1 analog inputs, should I be using these? and if so which speakers should be left out side or rear? Or should I run the audio through an optical or dig coax from the bd player directly to receiver.

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You should be using the 5.1 analog inputs. The sides would be eliminated. Have a old Yamah. Using the inputs with my pioneer blue ray. Sound is fuller when using this configuration. But optical sound nice to. But you have to graduate to a receiver that decodes the new codecs. Sound is unbelievable
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I have an older pioneer vsx-915, this receiver is supossed to have 7.1 capability, I have my HDMI hooked to my tv and I have an optical cable outputting audio to the receiver.
Is the optical cable running from the TV output to the Pioneer? Or, from the disc player to the Pioneer? It makes a difference.

Do you have a 7.1 system? If so, digital will enable you to get sound to your rear speakers while analog will not.

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The reciever has 5.1 analog inputs, should I be using these? and if so which speakers should be left out side or rear?
Does your Blu-ray player decode TrueHD and dts-MA? If so, the analog outputs might be better because you'd get lossless audio that way.

A 5.1 system consists of three speakers in the front, two surrounds, and a sub. The surrounds are usually positioned on the sides. The rear speakers are added to a 7.1 system. So, you'd run the surround outputs on your player to your surround inputs on your receiver.

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Or should I run the audio through an optical or dig coax from the bd player directly to receiver.
If you are using the optical or coax, it has to go direct to the AVR in order to get surround sound. If you send audio through the TV, it will be stereo PCM. As for whether the optical/coax path is better than analog, it depends on several factors.

There are lots of options with audio depending on your specific equipment.
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I have a quality Yamaha reciever w/ 5.1 anolog imputs.

If I hook a Blu ray player up to it that decodes true hd and lossless audio with the 6 rca cables will the sound "quality" be exactly the same as if I hooked it up with a hdmi cable and ran it on 5.1 OR do you loose something?

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