Boot Up and Load Times

kbaker2002de · 10-15-2008, 06:30 AM

Is there anywhere on the web that will list some of the performace data of the different Blu players? Specifically, I am interested in finding boot up times and load times for players. I would like to look into a player, but I will need to appease the misses. We got the A2 last year and all year I have heard complaints about the boot up performance and how it takes too long.

She has been spoiled by regular DVD's that boot up in a second. Thanks everyone for your help.

Also, a quick question about audio, I have the Yamaha RX-V463 receiver (which I love). It will not decode DtHD or DTS-HD, just DTS, DD+ and LPCM. From experimenting with my A2, I have not been overly impressed with DtHD so far. Comparing Transformers in DD+ and the Matrix in DtHD, Transformers (and even Matrix in DD+) sounded better. I have two HDMI inputs (that accept audio), 1 coax, 2 toslink and a multichannel analog input. If my player didn't decode the lossless codecs, would there be discs that would have no sound? Or do they have LPCM and DD+ tracks as backups?

anythingwt · 10-15-2008, 07:03 AM

In regards to your concerns about load times...

Load times are not going to be as quick as DVD anytime soon.. but as long as you keep the firmware up to date on your player, you will get the best load times and they will improve with new updates. I have BDP-S1 which is a pretty old model. The load times initially were terrible. Nowadays though they are very tolerable. By the time my TV and reciever are powered up, and lighting is adjusted, the player is booted up and ready for the movie. Then the movie starts almost immediately after throwing it in the player.(well, most movies anyways) I'm more bothered by forced previews that come with some discs as opposed to load times.

HD Goofnut · 10-15-2008, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by anythingwt

In regards to your concerns about load times...

Load times are not going to be as quick as DVD anytime soon.. but as long as you keep the firmware up to date on your player, you will get the best load times and they will improve with new updates. I have BDP-S1 which is a pretty old model. The load times initially were terrible. Nowadays though they are very tolerable. By the time my TV and reciever are powered up, and lighting is adjusted, the player is booted up and ready for the movie. Then the movie starts almost immediately after throwing it in the player.(well, most movies anyways) I'm more bothered by forced previews that come with some discs as opposed to load times.

I can't stand the forced previews either. I will sit there and hit the top menu button on my PS3 and of course it won't go anywhere. You have to sit there and keep hitting the next scene button until you finally, after about 8 pushes get to the menu or movie startup. Luckily this only occurs with maybe 1 in 4 BDs that I have encountered.

kbaker2002de · 10-15-2008, 09:23 AM

Well, after doing some research, I think I have the player I would need to satisfy the wifey. According to everything I can find, the Sony BDP-S350 meets all my requirements because it has a Quick Start option so most of the programming stays in memory.

This is the only unit I see that has it, I do not know why more players don't use this option.

Now I just want to hold off and hope that I can get a $199 BF deal.

**ImRizzo** · 10-15-2008, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbaker2002de

Well, after doing some research, I think I have the player I would need to satisfy the wifey. According to everything I can find, the Sony BDP-S350 meets all my requirements because it has a Quick Start option so most of the programming stays in memory.

This is the only unit I see that has it, I do not know why more players don't use this option.

Now I just want to hold off and hope that I can get a $199 BF deal.

NOTE: If you use Microsoft cash back offer(30%) and purchase thru E-bay as buyit now option w/Paypal you can get it http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-BDP-S350-10...d=p3286.c0.m14 that $$$ approx 175 + shipping
What the heck, here is the link to read about and sign up for Microsoft Live Search:

http://search.live.com/cashback

Here is the link to grab the 30% off on eBay:

http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=wii&form=QBLH

Just click on the Wii eBay search at the top and change the search to BDP-S350 after you are on eBay. I

Chris

HD Goofnut · 10-15-2008, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbaker2002de

Well, after doing some research, I think I have the player I would need to satisfy the wifey. According to everything I can find, the Sony BDP-S350 meets all my requirements because it has a Quick Start option so most of the programming stays in memory.

This is the only unit I see that has it, I do not know why more players don't use this option.

Now I just want to hold off and hope that I can get a $199 BF deal.

Sounds good to me, even though I avoid Sony's higher prices everytime I can. The one thing appealing to me about the S350 is the size because it is a good third smaller than most of the SA BD players out there right now.

Chris Gerhard · 10-15-2008, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbaker2002de

Is there anywhere on the web that will list some of the performace data of the different Blu players? Specifically, I am interested in finding boot up times and load times for players. I would like to look into a player, but I will need to appease the misses. We got the A2 last year and all year I have heard complaints about the boot up performance and how it takes too long.

She has been spoiled by regular DVD's that boot up in a second. Thanks everyone for your help.

Also, a quick question about audio, I have the Yamaha RX-V463 receiver (which I love). It will not decode DtHD or DTS-HD, just DTS, DD+ and LPCM. From experimenting with my A2, I have not been overly impressed with DtHD so far. Comparing Transformers in DD+ and the Matrix in DtHD, Transformers (and even Matrix in DD+) sounded better. I have two HDMI inputs (that accept audio), 1 coax, 2 toslink and a multichannel analog input. If my player didn't decode the lossless codecs, would there be discs that would have no sound? Or do they have LPCM and DD+ tracks as backups?

There would be no discs without sound, but I think you are missing a better experience by avoiding the lossless audio codecs. The BDP-S550 adds decoding of Dolby TrueHD and analog out so that player would be a better choice if you do decide you want decoding.

Chris

kbaker2002de · 10-15-2008, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard

There would be no discs without sound, but I think you are missing a better experience by avoiding the lossless audio codecs. The BDP-S550 adds decoding of Dolby TrueHD and analog out so that player would be a better choice if you do decide you want decoding.

Chris

Thanks for the input. As I mentioned I did some small scale testing, but not too much. What is a good DtHD title for HD DVD?

HD Goofnut · 10-15-2008, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kbaker2002de

Thanks for the input. As I mentioned I did some small scale testing, but not too much. What is a good DtHD title for HD DVD?

Definitely the Matrix Trilogy.

**ImRizzo** · 10-15-2008, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbaker2002de

Thanks for the input. As I mentioned I did some small scale testing, but not too much. What is a good DtHD title for HD DVD?

Iron man Blu isDolby TrueHD 5.1 and a really good sound track IMO

kbaker2002de · 10-15-2008, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImRizzo

NOTE: If you use Microsoft cash back offer(30%) and purchase thru E-bay as buyit now option w/Paypal you can get it http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-BDP-S350-10...d=p3286.c0.m14 that $$$ approx 175 + shipping
What the heck, here is the link to read about and sign up for Microsoft Live Search:

http://search.live.com/cashback

Here is the link to grab the 30% off on eBay:

http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=wii&form=QBLH

Just click on the Wii eBay search at the top and change the search to BDP-S350 after you are on eBay. I

Chris

Rizz,
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

I thanked Chris as well on another thread, but you showed it to me first. I didn't get the BDP-S350, but instead I got the BDP-BX1 (the costco clone) for $167 after cash back. That is so awesome. This will go under the tree for my wife so I can say, here is a new DVD since you hate the Tosh, and look it boots up in 6 seconds. She doesn't need to know that its a BD player, I can tell her it cost a buck fifty and she will be happy.

Color me purple

Chris Gerhard · 10-15-2008, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbaker2002de

Rizz,
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

I thanked Chris as well on another thread, but you showed it to me first. I didn't get the BDP-S350, but instead I got the BDP-BX1 (the costco clone) for $167 after cash back. That is so awesome. This will go under the tree for my wife so I can say, here is a new DVD since you hate the Tosh, and look it boots up in 6 seconds. She doesn't need to know that its a BD player, I can tell her it cost a buck fifty and she will be happy.

Color me purple

I just got my BDP-BX1 in and loaded "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull". It is a fairly slow loading disc and it loaded quickly with the player. I am impressed so far. I own the BDP-S1, slow as molasses and the PS3, quickest of the quick to load, and this one is someplace in between but very acceptable. You managed to beat my price by a few dollars, great deals abound with this Microsoft Live.com Search Cashback.

He copied my post, even my name, to show it to you. I think I have a copyright violation claim.

Chris

**ImRizzo** · 10-15-2008, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbaker2002de

Rizz,
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

I thanked Chris as well on another thread, but you showed it to me first. I didn't get the BDP-S350, but instead I got the BDP-BX1 (the costco clone) for $167 after cash back. That is so awesome. This will go under the tree for my wife so I can say, here is a new DVD since you hate the Tosh, and look it boots up in 6 seconds. She doesn't need to know that its a BD player, I can tell her it cost a buck fifty and she will be happy.

Color me purple

I'm glad you took advantage, thanks to Chris we all saved nicely and I don't understand what Microsoft gets for dong this but, Thanks to them also, I hope it made going Blu a little easier LOL

Chris Gerhard · 10-15-2008, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImRizzo

I'm glad you took advantage, thanks to Chris we all saved nicely and I don't understand what Microsoft gets for dong this but, Thanks to them also, I hope it made going Blu a little easier LOL

Ya, definitely thanks to Microsoft. You wouldn't be able to get a penny from that Chris guy for buying a player. It is obviously a promotion to introduce Microsoft Live.com Search, but how in the world that amount of money is justified is hard for me to understand. I recall Christmas of 2006, Google Checkout and Buy.com had a buy $50, get $20 discount promotion to introduce Google Checkout. I used that like crazy for my Christmas shopping. This is the next best thing and only comparable thing I have seen since. I still use Google Checkout often, it works great, but what a price they paid to get me to start.

Chris

**ImRizzo** · 10-15-2008, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard

I just got my BDP-BX1 in and loaded "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull". It is a fairly slow loading disc and it loaded quickly with the player. I am impressed so far. I own the BDP-S1, slow as molasses and the PS3, quickest of the quick to load, and this one is someplace in between but very acceptable. You managed to beat my price by a few dollars, great deals abound with this Microsoft Live.com Search Cashback.

He copied my post, even my name, to show it to you. I think I have a copyright violation claim.

Chris

Chris my apoligies, but I included your name so you would get the Thanks I just trying to use up Microsoft's Bucks..Let us konw about your players PQ .....Oh! by the way...

....LOL

10-15-2008, 06:30 AM	#1
kbaker2002de It's the Cup Or BUST!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,003	Boot Up and Load Times Is there anywhere on the web that will list some of the performace data of the different Blu players? Specifically, I am interested in finding boot up times and load times for players. I would like to look into a player, but I will need to appease the misses. We got the A2 last year and all year I have heard complaints about the boot up performance and how it takes too long. She has been spoiled by regular DVD's that boot up in a second. Thanks everyone for your help. Also, a quick question about audio, I have the Yamaha RX-V463 receiver (which I love). It will not decode DtHD or DTS-HD, just DTS, DD+ and LPCM. From experimenting with my A2, I have not been overly impressed with DtHD so far. Comparing Transformers in DD+ and the Matrix in DtHD, Transformers (and even Matrix in DD+) sounded better. I have two HDMI inputs (that accept audio), 1 coax, 2 toslink and a multichannel analog input. If my player didn't decode the lossless codecs, would there be discs that would have no sound? Or do they have LPCM and DD+ tracks as backups?

10-15-2008, 07:03 AM	#2
anythingwt one love Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 4,417	In regards to your concerns about load times... Load times are not going to be as quick as DVD anytime soon.. but as long as you keep the firmware up to date on your player, you will get the best load times and they will improve with new updates. I have BDP-S1 which is a pretty old model. The load times initially were terrible. Nowadays though they are very tolerable. By the time my TV and reciever are powered up, and lighting is adjusted, the player is booted up and ready for the movie. Then the movie starts almost immediately after throwing it in the player.(well, most movies anyways) I'm more bothered by forced previews that come with some discs as opposed to load times. __________________ "your dreams, minus your doubts, equal your reality"

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10-15-2008, 09:23 AM	#4
kbaker2002de It's the Cup Or BUST!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,003	Well, after doing some research, I think I have the player I would need to satisfy the wifey. According to everything I can find, the Sony BDP-S350 meets all my requirements because it has a Quick Start option so most of the programming stays in memory. This is the only unit I see that has it, I do not know why more players don't use this option. Now I just want to hold off and hope that I can get a $199 BF deal.