Blu-ray vs. HD DVD and DVD

PenGun · 05-25-2007, 11:42 AM

It's just hardware folks. Do the research and the math and use the hardware.

I rip everything to my hard drives anyway so the media it came on does not concern me much.

A computer can play any damn thing so when you go to spend more than $400 - $500 on a device think of getting a media center instead.

This Blu-Ray HD-DVD nonsense was amusing for a while but really, you people have largely lost it.

BobY · 05-26-2007, 12:14 AM

I suspect the last thing I would ever buy for my HT would be a computer-based media center.

I like convenience, simplicity and style in CE products and am willing to pay for that. I can't imagine any product based on a GP computer and software that would be tolerable.

While there is a whole group of people that would vehemently disagree with me, there's an even bigger group who doesn't and that's reflected in sales.

Chris Gerhard · 05-26-2007, 06:44 AM

I have never used a media center for music or video playback. A computer can not play SACD for one thing, the format I play more than any other.

Chris

billorama · 05-26-2007, 11:23 PM

some dvd roms apparantly can read sacd's with a good bit of tampering. that blu ray stuff will never succeed....
for instance no one in my family or really anyone i know has any intension of buying a blu ray player. they wouldnt understand the pointr in spending that much money just to watch movies they already ahve on dvd. sonys claims are rediculous.

samcan07 · 05-26-2007, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by billorama

some dvd roms apparantly can read sacd's with a good bit of tampering. that blu ray stuff will never succeed....
for instance no one in my family or really anyone i know has any intension of buying a blu ray player. they wouldnt understand the pointr in spending that much money just to watch movies they already ahve on dvd. sonys claims are rediculous.

But would any one you know buy a HD DVD player to watch movies they have on DVD already??? Remember cheap Blu ray players are on the way!!!!

**PFC5** · 05-27-2007, 01:40 AM

But they will probably remain at twice the price as the HD DVD players (for the next year anyway) because Toshiba has promised to keep lowering the price of the HD DVD players.

samcan07 · 05-27-2007, 02:07 AM

But how low can they go???

**PFC5** · 05-27-2007, 02:20 AM

We shall see.

I was the only one that I recall saying in January that HD DVD players would cost less than $200.00 before year end. I think everyone pretty much assumes this will happen at least with a Chinese player and now I think possibly with the Toshiba 3G players also.

I also think that there very well might be a BD player at $300.00 before year end as well.

samcan07 · 05-27-2007, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

We shall see.

I was the only one that I recall saying in January that HD DVD players would cost less than $200.00 before year end. I think everyone pretty much assumes this will happen at least with a Chinese player and now I think possibly with the Toshiba 3G players also.

I also think that there very well might be a BD player at $300.00 before year end as well.

I hope this is the case. I would like to get a cheap HD DVD player just for Universal exclusive discs. But cheap in US doesn't mean cheap in Oz unfortunately.

**PFC5** · 05-27-2007, 04:45 AM

Cheap in Arkansas is not the same as cheap in New York either.

samcan07 · 05-27-2007, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

Cheap in Arkansas is not the same as cheap in New York either.

The_Omega_Man · 05-27-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

Cheap in Arkansas is not the same as cheap in New York either.

That was one of the most funny posts that I've seen here in a while! LOL

**PFC5** · 05-27-2007, 11:15 PM

Thank You Thank You Thank You!

kenl8888 · 12-03-2007, 09:12 AM

The format which comes out with the cheapest recorder and blank discs will win.. as many of us will be able to use new computer programs to transfer our dvd collections to the format..

Chris Gerhard · 12-03-2007, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by billorama

some dvd roms apparantly can read sacd's with a good bit of tampering. that blu ray stuff will never succeed....
for instance no one in my family or really anyone i know has any intension of buying a blu ray player. they wouldnt understand the pointr in spending that much money just to watch movies they already ahve on dvd. sonys claims are rediculous.

I have never seen any evidence a PC DVD drive can be tampered with to enable reading SACD. Do you have any link?

Chris

05-25-2007, 11:42 AM	#31
PenGun Avast Mateys Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Backwoods BC Canada Age: 63 Posts: 217	It's just hardware folks. Do the research and the math and use the hardware. I rip everything to my hard drives anyway so the media it came on does not concern me much. A computer can play any damn thing so when you go to spend more than $400 - $500 on a device think of getting a media center instead. This Blu-Ray HD-DVD nonsense was amusing for a while but really, you people have largely lost it. __________________ Sony 34XS955N HDTV - Custom HTPC Opteron 165 dual core at 2.4 GHz - Gnu/Linux-Slamd64 11.0 - Nvidia GT6600 - Twinhan 102g Satellite Card - Dual DVD burners - 0.8 terrabyte array - M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 - Sonic Frontiers SFL1 Signature (Factory modded) Preamp - Kimber Braided interconnects - Sonic Frontiers SFM75 Monoblocks - Tara Time & Space Speaker Cables - B&W Matrix 1s (the original) crossovers rebuilt (MITs) bi-wired

05-27-2007, 01:40 AM	#36
PFC5 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 28,402	But they will probably remain at twice the price as the HD DVD players (for the next year anyway) because Toshiba has promised to keep lowering the price of the HD DVD players. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier

05-27-2007, 02:20 AM	#38
PFC5 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 28,402	We shall see. I was the only one that I recall saying in January that HD DVD players would cost less than $200.00 before year end. I think everyone pretty much assumes this will happen at least with a Chinese player and now I think possibly with the Toshiba 3G players also. I also think that there very well might be a BD player at $300.00 before year end as well. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier

05-27-2007, 04:45 AM	#40
PFC5 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 28,402	Cheap in Arkansas is not the same as cheap in New York either. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier

05-27-2007, 11:15 PM	#43
PFC5 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 28,402	Thank You Thank You Thank You! __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier

05-26-2007, 12:14 AM	#32
BobY What's all this, then?... Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,197	I suspect the last thing I would ever buy for my HT would be a computer-based media center. I like convenience, simplicity and style in CE products and am willing to pay for that. I can't imagine any product based on a GP computer and software that would be tolerable. While there is a whole group of people that would vehemently disagree with me, there's an even bigger group who doesn't and that's reflected in sales.

05-26-2007, 06:44 AM	#33
Chris Gerhard High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,211	I have never used a media center for music or video playback. A computer can not play SACD for one thing, the format I play more than any other. Chris

05-26-2007, 11:23 PM	#34
billorama How can anyone watch standard def? Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 15	some dvd roms apparantly can read sacd's with a good bit of tampering. that blu ray stuff will never succeed.... for instance no one in my family or really anyone i know has any intension of buying a blu ray player. they wouldnt understand the pointr in spending that much money just to watch movies they already ahve on dvd. sonys claims are rediculous.

05-27-2007, 02:07 AM	#37
samcan07 We're caught in a trap... Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 927	But how low can they go???

12-03-2007, 09:12 AM	#44
kenl8888 What is HD? Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1	The format which comes out with the cheapest recorder and blank discs will win.. as many of us will be able to use new computer programs to transfer our dvd collections to the format..