Sony announces cheaper Blu-Ray Player

Lee Stewart · 03-04-2007, 10:19 PM

Boby:

Let me ask you this, and I worked for IBM from 1980 to 1984 - if they really thought they had a winner on their hands - wouldn't they have developed the product the way they were doing in the Main Frame product line? - all propriatary. . . .protect at all costs.

GLOW · 03-04-2007, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

irrefutable evidence WUV. No question. I was refurring to later down the road but you are correct with your attachments.

Love your new signature. How's mine?

If I was really bored I'd go search for his post that said DD+ is "good enough"

Lee Stewart · 03-04-2007, 10:32 PM

Come on GLOW, ease up, if WUV ever stops short we will need a crow bar to get you out!

BobY · 03-04-2007, 10:42 PM

I visited the Boca Raton facility in the PC time frame. There's no question IBM corporate HQ wasn't convinced the PC would go anywhere, that's why they did it the way they did--off the shelf hardware, subcontract the software. It was cheaper and quicker and the PC group was trying to keep a low profile on the P+L so they didn't get the rug pulled out from under them.

By the time they were convinced there really was a market, they had already sealed their fate. IMHO, it was sealed no matter what they did. If they had made a proprietary, closed system, it wouldn't have gone anywhere in the marketplace, it would have just been another IBM minicomputer, only based on an Intel microprocessor instead of an IBM core.

What they should have done was pay MicroSoft for the exclusive license to MS DOS (i.e. buy it from them with exclusive rights to use), then license MS DOS to other PC manufacturers. That way, IBM would have made all the money licensing MS DOS instead of MicroSoft and the world would be a very different place...

Lee Stewart · 03-04-2007, 10:53 PM

Boby:

All excellent points, as well as your hindsight views. But, as you said . . . that's not what happened.

IBM knew it's market every which way to Sunday. They had been selling in it for close to 40 years . . .Corporate America. The closest the "average consumer" ever got to buying an IBM product was a used IBM Selectric Typewriter. IBM had zero experience selling to the general public and their decisions reflect their inexperience with that market.

Just to put it all in prospective . . . at the time the PC came out . . . . I was 6 mos into selling Color Dumb Terminals, for the first time. Previously, all were Monochrome.

I WUV HD · 03-04-2007, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

irrefutable evidence WUV. No question. I was refurring to later down the road but you are correct with your attachments.

Love your new signature. How's mine?

So you're misquoting me in your signature now, too? How pathetic you are. My signature's quote attrubuted to you is accurate. I can point you to the post. Can you do the same? If not, I'd suggest you take it down, you douche. Otherwise, I'll be forced to lower myself to doing what you're doing - manufacturing quotes - and I won't stop till I've offended you and most of the others on this board.

I WUV HD · 03-04-2007, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GLOW

If I was really bored I'd go search for his post that said DD+ is "good enough"

You'd never find it, because I've never typed "DD+ is good enough." You're just another lying prick, like Lee.

I WUV HD · 03-04-2007, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

irrefutable evidence WUV. No question. I was refurring to later down the road but you are correct with your attachments.

So you were referring to a different AC/DC war featuring Edison & Westinghouse? Hmmm... that's odd.

No, I'd say you were wrong and you're not man enough to admit it and bow out gracefully. Yep - that sounds about right.

Lee Stewart · 03-04-2007, 11:17 PM

WUV . . .I don't have to . . .as the saying goes:

If the shoe fits wear it!"

Lee Stewart · 03-04-2007, 11:20 PM

Funny WUV . .the last time I was in NYC it said Con Edison . . .Not Con Westinghouse

I WUV HD · 03-04-2007, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

WUV . . .I don't have to . . .

Aren't you fifty-five years old? Good God, man - it's time to grow up and have some integrity.

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

as the saying goes:

If the shoe fits wear it!"

You're a lying fucking prick. If you want to go the dishonest route, we'll go that route. It's your choice, pops.

I WUV HD · 03-04-2007, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Funny WUV . .the last time I was in NYC it said Con Edison . . .Not Con Westinghouse

And that makes your claims that Edison supported AC while Westinghouse supported DC true how?

You were wrong and have no fucking balls. If you did, you would man up and say, "You know, I was wrong. I had the two mixed up."

But no, you can't do that. You're pathetic.

I WUV HD · 03-04-2007, 11:24 PM

How do you like my new signature, Mr. Stewart?

If the shoe fits...

Lee Stewart · 03-04-2007, 11:25 PM

Well "kid" I just don't have the time to pick out ALL the times you have championed lossless sound and guess what? . . . . I don't have it . . . I don't need it . . . and I don't want it.

Night WUV . . sleep tight, and don't let those bed bugs bite! . . . . . . . what? . . . you want a glass of water? . . . . OK . . . make it fast!

I WUV HD · 03-04-2007, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Well "kid" I just don't have the time to pick out ALL the times you have championed lossless sound and guess what? . . . . I don't have it . . . I don't need it . . . and I don't want it.

If you want to post an accurate quote that I've typed, go for it. As long as you have a lie in your sig, mine will contain lies as well.

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03-04-2007, 10:19 PM	#136
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	Boby: Let me ask you this, and I worked for IBM from 1980 to 1984 - if they really thought they had a winner on their hands - wouldn't they have developed the product the way they were doing in the Main Frame product line? - all propriatary. . . .protect at all costs.

03-04-2007, 10:32 PM	#138
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	Come on GLOW, ease up, if WUV ever stops short we will need a crow bar to get you out!

03-04-2007, 10:42 PM	#139
BobY What's all this, then?... Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,197	I visited the Boca Raton facility in the PC time frame. There's no question IBM corporate HQ wasn't convinced the PC would go anywhere, that's why they did it the way they did--off the shelf hardware, subcontract the software. It was cheaper and quicker and the PC group was trying to keep a low profile on the P+L so they didn't get the rug pulled out from under them. By the time they were convinced there really was a market, they had already sealed their fate. IMHO, it was sealed no matter what they did. If they had made a proprietary, closed system, it wouldn't have gone anywhere in the marketplace, it would have just been another IBM minicomputer, only based on an Intel microprocessor instead of an IBM core. What they should have done was pay MicroSoft for the exclusive license to MS DOS (i.e. buy it from them with exclusive rights to use), then license MS DOS to other PC manufacturers. That way, IBM would have made all the money licensing MS DOS instead of MicroSoft and the world would be a very different place...

03-04-2007, 10:53 PM	#140
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	Boby: All excellent points, as well as your hindsight views. But, as you said . . . that's not what happened. IBM knew it's market every which way to Sunday. They had been selling in it for close to 40 years . . .Corporate America. The closest the "average consumer" ever got to buying an IBM product was a used IBM Selectric Typewriter. IBM had zero experience selling to the general public and their decisions reflect their inexperience with that market. Just to put it all in prospective . . . at the time the PC came out . . . . I was 6 mos into selling Color Dumb Terminals, for the first time. Previously, all were Monochrome.

03-04-2007, 11:17 PM	#144
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	WUV . . .I don't have to . . .as the saying goes: If the shoe fits wear it!"

03-04-2007, 11:20 PM	#145
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	Funny WUV . .the last time I was in NYC it said Con Edison . . .Not Con Westinghouse

03-04-2007, 11:25 PM	#149
Lee Stewart Muscle Cars Forever! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 35,092	Well "kid" I just don't have the time to pick out ALL the times you have championed lossless sound and guess what? . . . . I don't have it . . . I don't need it . . . and I don't want it. Night WUV . . sleep tight, and don't let those bed bugs bite! . . . . . . . what? . . . you want a glass of water? . . . . OK . . . make it fast!