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Old 03-04-2007, 10:19 PM   #136
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Boby:

Let me ask you this, and I worked for IBM from 1980 to 1984 - if they really thought they had a winner on their hands - wouldn't they have developed the product the way they were doing in the Main Frame product line? - all propriatary. . . .protect at all costs.
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Old 03-04-2007, 10:23 PM   #137
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irrefutable evidence WUV. No question. I was refurring to later down the road but you are correct with your attachments.

Love your new signature. How's mine?
If I was really bored I'd go search for his post that said DD+ is "good enough"
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Old 03-04-2007, 10:32 PM   #138
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Come on GLOW, ease up, if WUV ever stops short we will need a crow bar to get you out!
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Old 03-04-2007, 10:42 PM   #139
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I visited the Boca Raton facility in the PC time frame. There's no question IBM corporate HQ wasn't convinced the PC would go anywhere, that's why they did it the way they did--off the shelf hardware, subcontract the software. It was cheaper and quicker and the PC group was trying to keep a low profile on the P+L so they didn't get the rug pulled out from under them.

By the time they were convinced there really was a market, they had already sealed their fate. IMHO, it was sealed no matter what they did. If they had made a proprietary, closed system, it wouldn't have gone anywhere in the marketplace, it would have just been another IBM minicomputer, only based on an Intel microprocessor instead of an IBM core.

What they should have done was pay MicroSoft for the exclusive license to MS DOS (i.e. buy it from them with exclusive rights to use), then license MS DOS to other PC manufacturers. That way, IBM would have made all the money licensing MS DOS instead of MicroSoft and the world would be a very different place...
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Old 03-04-2007, 10:53 PM   #140
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Boby:

All excellent points, as well as your hindsight views. But, as you said . . . that's not what happened.

IBM knew it's market every which way to Sunday. They had been selling in it for close to 40 years . . .Corporate America. The closest the "average consumer" ever got to buying an IBM product was a used IBM Selectric Typewriter. IBM had zero experience selling to the general public and their decisions reflect their inexperience with that market.

Just to put it all in prospective . . . at the time the PC came out . . . . I was 6 mos into selling Color Dumb Terminals, for the first time. Previously, all were Monochrome.
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Old 03-04-2007, 11:13 PM   #141
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irrefutable evidence WUV. No question. I was refurring to later down the road but you are correct with your attachments.

Love your new signature. How's mine?
So you're misquoting me in your signature now, too? How pathetic you are. My signature's quote attrubuted to you is accurate. I can point you to the post. Can you do the same? If not, I'd suggest you take it down, you douche. Otherwise, I'll be forced to lower myself to doing what you're doing - manufacturing quotes - and I won't stop till I've offended you and most of the others on this board.
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If I was really bored I'd go search for his post that said DD+ is "good enough"
You'd never find it, because I've never typed "DD+ is good enough." You're just another lying prick, like Lee.
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irrefutable evidence WUV. No question. I was refurring to later down the road but you are correct with your attachments.
So you were referring to a different AC/DC war featuring Edison & Westinghouse? Hmmm... that's odd.

No, I'd say you were wrong and you're not man enough to admit it and bow out gracefully. Yep - that sounds about right.
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WUV . . .I don't have to . . .as the saying goes:

If the shoe fits wear it!"
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Funny WUV . .the last time I was in NYC it said Con Edison . . .Not Con Westinghouse
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WUV . . .I don't have to . . .
Aren't you fifty-five years old? Good God, man - it's time to grow up and have some integrity.
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as the saying goes:

If the shoe fits wear it!"
You're a lying fucking prick. If you want to go the dishonest route, we'll go that route. It's your choice, pops.
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Funny WUV . .the last time I was in NYC it said Con Edison . . .Not Con Westinghouse
And that makes your claims that Edison supported AC while Westinghouse supported DC true how?

You were wrong and have no fucking balls. If you did, you would man up and say, "You know, I was wrong. I had the two mixed up."

But no, you can't do that. You're pathetic.
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How do you like my new signature, Mr. Stewart?

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Old 03-04-2007, 11:25 PM   #149
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Well "kid" I just don't have the time to pick out ALL the times you have championed lossless sound and guess what? . . . . I don't have it . . . I don't need it . . . and I don't want it.

Night WUV . . sleep tight, and don't let those bed bugs bite! . . . . . . . what? . . . you want a glass of water? . . . . OK . . . make it fast!
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Well "kid" I just don't have the time to pick out ALL the times you have championed lossless sound and guess what? . . . . I don't have it . . . I don't need it . . . and I don't want it.
If you want to post an accurate quote that I've typed, go for it. As long as you have a lie in your sig, mine will contain lies as well.
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