Problem with Oppo BDP-105

bigbidder · 01-15-2013, 09:40 AM

I have an unusual problem with the audio from my Oppo BDP-105. When I turn on all components I get no sound through my receiver.

The HDMI input to the Oppo comes from a Directv HR-24. I have the Oppo unit set in split-AV format so that it sends the HDMI-1 output to a Samsung PB60E8000 TV and the HDMI-2 output to a Denon AVR-3806 receiver. The problem is when I turn everything on I get no sound from either TV or receiver. If I change the input selection on the receiver so that it selects another component such as Auxillary then the TV turns black for a second and then comes back with the picture and sound (just on the TV itself). Selecting the HDMI input on the receiver reverts things back to no sound from anything.

I can get sound through the receiver by going back to the Oppo and playing a CD. This does output an audio signal to the receiver and I get sound. Then when I go back to watch TV (by selecting select the HDMI input once again), audio is output to the receiver and I now get sound. But if I change the input selector on the receiver to another source and then switch it back to HDMI, I again get no sound.

I talked with support at Oppo and the guy said the problem was with the Denon receiver. I then talked with support at Denon and the guy there thought the problem was with the Oppo player. Since I can “fix” the problem by playing a CD on the Oppo, I am inclined to believe that the problem is with the Oppo unit.

Because the reason for my getting the Oppo unit in the first place was the split-HDMI capability, I am rather disappointed. The changing of inputs is more bothersome than it might at first seem because there is no button to simply select input on the Oppo. You have to select the input from an on-screen list.

Does anyone have an idea of what is going on?

BIslander · 01-15-2013, 08:54 PM

This looks like an HDMI handshake issue. I'd start troubleshooting by simplifying. Use one HDMI output instead of two and connect the TV to the AVR instead of the player Change the order in which you turn on the equipment. If you find something that works, then make one change at a time to see when it breaks.

Meanwhile, you say your satellite receiver is connected to the Blu-ray player. That won't work.

quad4.0 · 01-15-2013, 09:43 PM

also, I suggest it is not the Oppo, and Bilander is correct. You can get a wealth of input on these players at the avs forum. Not only in the faq but a whole dedicated thread for the 105. I would be hesitant to blame the Oppo, as it is a highly regarded machine, with a support system like I've never seen.

bigbidder · 01-15-2013, 11:52 PM

Thanks for the responses. In the AVS forum I found a couple of users with (I think) sporadic permission problems using a Directv receiver and a Oppo DBP-103. From Oppo's response, they are apparently investigating the problem. I also found a detailed review from someone who is using his BDP-103 with a Directv receiver without any problems noted.

Since the problem I am having is with audio, I will try outputting the audio from the Directv unit directly to the amplifier with an optical connector.

I would want to use the Directv unit with the Oppo to take advantage of 3D and 4K upconversions. The support person I spoke with at Oppo did not mention the Directv unit as a possible source of problem, although it may well be.

BIslander · 01-16-2013, 08:37 AM

I did not realize the Oppo has an input for video conversion of another device. Sounds like a good feature. But, I think you need to step back to the simplest configuration to see if you can get it working and then add each new wrinkle one at a time.

jkkyler · 01-16-2013, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIslander

I did not realize the Oppo has an input for video conversion of another device. Sounds like a good feature. But, I think you need to step back to the simplest configuration to see if you can get it working and then add each new wrinkle one at a time.

The newest crop of OPPOS have HDMI IN and allow you to run external video sources through them to take advantage of their wonderful up-conversion chip.

quad4.0 · 01-16-2013, 09:39 AM

I'm certain they will have little bugs that need to be eliminated. The good thing is Oppo CS, that I my opinon is second to none. They will go beyond the paramaters of CS to ensure the equipment is up to par. On my 2nd Oppo, my 1st was the 970, for less money than avg. dvd players, gave me the best PQ I ever saw from a dvd player. Plus, I have experienced Oppo CS first hand to see how they will go to extreme to satisfy. Yes DTV is enforcing the copyright issue that may prevent upgraded audio.

bigbidder · 01-16-2013, 03:32 PM

Unfortunately, after getting rid of audio out from my Oppo BDP-105, I found that I was unable to play HBO or Starz from my Directv HR-24 through my Oppo unit. I got the message below.

Your TV does not support this program content. Replacing the TV's HDMI cable with component cable will allow you to view the program.

After that my Directv screen was white-on-white and no channel could be played.

What I find interesting is that no review of the BDP-103 or BDP-105 unit has mentioned a Directv issue. I haven't found the issue raised for the BDP-93 or BDP-95.

I would suspect that many people who purchase a BDP-105 use Directv. If they won't work together, then the BDP-105 is simply much too expensive for what it does (at least for me).

quad4.0 · 01-16-2013, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbidder

Unfortunately, after getting rid of audio out from my Oppo BDP-105, I found that I was unable to play HBO or Starz from my Directv HR-24 through my Oppo unit. I got the message below.

Your TV does not support this program content. Replacing the TV's HDMI cable with component cable will allow you to view the program.

After that my Directv screen was white-on-white and no channel could be played.

What I find interesting is that no review of the BDP-103 or BDP-105 unit has mentioned a Directv issue. I haven't found the issue raised for the BDP-93 or BDP-95.

I would suspect that many people who purchase a BDP-105 use Directv. If they won't work together, then the BDP-105 is simply much too expensive for what it does (at least for me).

If you do not play dvd audio/sacd/and use memory for music, then you are correct. The issue is the copyright protection.

01-15-2013, 09:40 AM	#1
bigbidder How can anyone watch standard def? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 17	Problem with Oppo BDP-105 I have an unusual problem with the audio from my Oppo BDP-105. When I turn on all components I get no sound through my receiver. The HDMI input to the Oppo comes from a Directv HR-24. I have the Oppo unit set in split-AV format so that it sends the HDMI-1 output to a Samsung PB60E8000 TV and the HDMI-2 output to a Denon AVR-3806 receiver. The problem is when I turn everything on I get no sound from either TV or receiver. If I change the input selection on the receiver so that it selects another component such as Auxillary then the TV turns black for a second and then comes back with the picture and sound (just on the TV itself). Selecting the HDMI input on the receiver reverts things back to no sound from anything. I can get sound through the receiver by going back to the Oppo and playing a CD. This does output an audio signal to the receiver and I get sound. Then when I go back to watch TV (by selecting select the HDMI input once again), audio is output to the receiver and I now get sound. But if I change the input selector on the receiver to another source and then switch it back to HDMI, I again get no sound. I talked with support at Oppo and the guy said the problem was with the Denon receiver. I then talked with support at Denon and the guy there thought the problem was with the Oppo player. Since I can “fix” the problem by playing a CD on the Oppo, I am inclined to believe that the problem is with the Oppo unit. Because the reason for my getting the Oppo unit in the first place was the split-HDMI capability, I am rather disappointed. The changing of inputs is more bothersome than it might at first seem because there is no button to simply select input on the Oppo. You have to select the input from an on-screen list. Does anyone have an idea of what is going on?

01-15-2013, 11:52 PM	#4
bigbidder How can anyone watch standard def? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 17	Thanks for the responses. In the AVS forum I found a couple of users with (I think) sporadic permission problems using a Directv receiver and a Oppo DBP-103. From Oppo's response, they are apparently investigating the problem. I also found a detailed review from someone who is using his BDP-103 with a Directv receiver without any problems noted. Since the problem I am having is with audio, I will try outputting the audio from the Directv unit directly to the amplifier with an optical connector. I would want to use the Directv unit with the Oppo to take advantage of 3D and 4K upconversions. The support person I spoke with at Oppo did not mention the Directv unit as a possible source of problem, although it may well be. Last edited by bigbidder; 01-15-2013 at 11:59 PM.

01-15-2013, 08:54 PM	#2
BIslander Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bainbridge Island, WA Posts: 1,502	This looks like an HDMI handshake issue. I'd start troubleshooting by simplifying. Use one HDMI output instead of two and connect the TV to the AVR instead of the player Change the order in which you turn on the equipment. If you find something that works, then make one change at a time to see when it breaks. Meanwhile, you say your satellite receiver is connected to the Blu-ray player. That won't work.

01-15-2013, 09:43 PM	#3
quad4.0 pissoffe Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: right here Posts: 624	also, I suggest it is not the Oppo, and Bilander is correct. You can get a wealth of input on these players at the avs forum. Not only in the faq but a whole dedicated thread for the 105. I would be hesitant to blame the Oppo, as it is a highly regarded machine, with a support system like I've never seen.

01-16-2013, 08:37 AM	#5
BIslander Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bainbridge Island, WA Posts: 1,502	I did not realize the Oppo has an input for video conversion of another device. Sounds like a good feature. But, I think you need to step back to the simplest configuration to see if you can get it working and then add each new wrinkle one at a time.

01-16-2013, 09:39 AM	#7
quad4.0 pissoffe Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: right here Posts: 624	I'm certain they will have little bugs that need to be eliminated. The good thing is Oppo CS, that I my opinon is second to none. They will go beyond the paramaters of CS to ensure the equipment is up to par. On my 2nd Oppo, my 1st was the 970, for less money than avg. dvd players, gave me the best PQ I ever saw from a dvd player. Plus, I have experienced Oppo CS first hand to see how they will go to extreme to satisfy. Yes DTV is enforcing the copyright issue that may prevent upgraded audio.

01-16-2013, 03:32 PM	#8
bigbidder How can anyone watch standard def? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 17	Unfortunately, after getting rid of audio out from my Oppo BDP-105, I found that I was unable to play HBO or Starz from my Directv HR-24 through my Oppo unit. I got the message below. Your TV does not support this program content. Replacing the TV's HDMI cable with component cable will allow you to view the program. After that my Directv screen was white-on-white and no channel could be played. What I find interesting is that no review of the BDP-103 or BDP-105 unit has mentioned a Directv issue. I haven't found the issue raised for the BDP-93 or BDP-95. I would suspect that many people who purchase a BDP-105 use Directv. If they won't work together, then the BDP-105 is simply much too expensive for what it does (at least for me).