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Old 09-12-2012, 04:45 PM   #1
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Default Mini review of the Marantz UD5007 Universal 3D Player

Okey dokey, first impressions:
  • Looks great
  • Build may not feel as hefty as the Oppo 93, but I think thats due to the hollow area in it left to get the xtra height. This thing is big.
  • PQ and AQ seem to be top notch, no issues on familiar content. Still have to break out DVE and Spears and Munsil
  • Lot of menu options, one thing missing is color space, you are stuck with 4:4:4. There are many picture adjustments, like the Oppo, and it has 5 presets you can use for 5 different sets of settings
  • I used Source Direct, which I confirmed to output 1080p/24 ycbcr 444 8bit
  • One gripe would be no wifi, but the netgear adapter I bought works great and was easy to setup (WNCE2001 http://www.netgear.com/landing/wnce2001.aspx)
  • Another gripe would be the menus. Definitely not the worst Ive seen in a newer player, but not as slick as the Oppo.

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Build date


Startup logo/screen saver


Home screen


Menu


Menu


Player and AVR


Player and AVR





Finally, speed. I was actually quite surprised!

Here is old data Ive compiled, with the new player added:

BD35--BD85--BDT110--BDP93--S790--BDT500--UD5007 (in seconds)

(Time to get to where you can select PLAY in final menu, starting with tray open)

Transformers 82--75--64--64--63--66--56
Iron Man 101--87--67--53--56--55--50

790 vs 500 vs 5007 on Star Trek which has some trailer skipping

83--81--69

As you can see, the 5007 is quite quick. I really like it in the first impression, and it looks outstanding in the ent center (what I was hoping for), my only concern will be FW updates and disc playability. Also nice to know it has a 3yr warranty on parts and labor.
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:00 PM   #2
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Aight, did some work with Spears and Munsil and DVE today.
  • Found Brightness to require the same display setting as every other BR player I've had, so that's a good sign.
  • Contrast had an issue with clipping WTW, which a few recent players have and many older (2008 range) players did quite often. Some say no big deal, some are anal about it, I personally have no idea. What I do know is a simple -1 Contrast setting in the player fixes the issue, and that is how I fixed it in the past. I mean the player has a ton of pic adjustments so why not use em? Once at -1 all Contrast patterns looked excellent.
  • One odd issue, and maybe there is a bug with the chipset, but in 1080/24p output or Source Direct (same difference) two things happen. On overscan patterns, that show whether your display is showing the full image, about 1/16" to 1/32" of the white line down the left edge of the screen is cut off, when using 1080/60p the pattern is perfect. All other edges are perfect and in the right spot on all settings, so it's almost like 1080/24p and Source Direct stretch the image a hair to the left. Second issue shows up on the Chroma Multiburst test in the fine resolution box. With 1080/24p on, the square is almost black instead of showing the vertical red and blue bars evenly, a result I've seen on most players when selecting 422 vs 444 (444 tends to fail for me). This player puts out 444 all the time, but when you swap over to 1080/60p, both the chroma and luma patterns are perfect. This is odd that this player passes with 444 ycbcr and none of my others did. So long story short, the player has an issue with 1080/24p output, now whether you'd notice either of these, I find it highly unlikely, but facts are facts. By running 1080/60p to my set, I have no issues because as stated, in 1080/60p the player passed every test I threw at it with Contrast set at -1.


So, I'm pretty happy at this point. Fast, passes the video tests how I will be running it, I just think a few of the hiccups should not be there in a player of this quality and this price. Whether you'd see them, who knows? But people buying a player like this will tend to be anal, at least Id assume so
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After some thought, it could be my display with regards to the 1080/24p issues on the chroma burst. My display has always shown an error there with 1080/24p no matter the player, but changing to 422 or RGB made it pass the test. I NEVER tested 1080/60p in (player handling 3:2 pulldown), so all this time I thought it was failing because of 444, it appears it was failing because of it's handling of 444 with 1080/24p activated from the player.

The 2011's, with a 24p input, have a setting of either 48hz, 96hz, or 60hz. If you set them to 60hz, they do not flicker like the other modes, but it's not just the standard 3:2 pulldown mode, there is some slight frame creation going on to smooth things out, which causes artificats. It obviously causes issues with 444 color space too. So, as far as the color space fail, I gotta blame that on the display, the only knock on the 5007 would be it cuts off a hair of the left edge outputting Source Direct or 1080/24p. I know the display has no issues here, because Ive tested it's 1:1 mode in all kinds of ways.
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I used to be a marantz freak. I loved the 70's era stuff they made.
I like your setup, but for me it's lacking ability's. I like a player to have universal ability. At least be able to play most of what is possible?
This has 1 hdmi out, no mc analog output, isn't capable of playing dvd-audio, and other formats. for the money you paid, I feel you could have done better. Thye could have given you qdeo at min.
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It is universal

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the UD5007 Networking Universal Disc Player from Marantz lets you enjoy Blu-ray discs along with DVDs, CDs, Super Audio CDs (SACDs), and DVD-Audio (DVD-A) discs--making the device extremely versatile. The UD5007 is also 3D capable, allowing you to watch the latest 3D Blu-ray discs.
http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pa...oductId=UD5007

I fully agree it's overpriced, this purchase was more about getting something with a high end look for my setup, and in doing that I hoped to a good Blu-player in which I did. It was more a cosmetic purchase, and luckily it's both a fast player and has excellent PQ. I just hope its reliable. The normal Sony and Panasonic offerings, while being great players, just dont fit in my system for looks. This was hopefully the final piece of the puzzle. I could have waited on the Oppo 103, but the styling is the same, and I think the Marantz looks better. I'd say overall for the price, the 103 is still a better choice, the new yammie 1020 is a nice player too.
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I used to be a marantz freak. I loved the 70's era stuff they made.
I like your setup, but for me it's lacking ability's. I like a player to have universal ability. At least be able to play most of what is possible?
This has 1 hdmi out, no mc analog output, isn't capable of playing dvd-audio, and other formats. for the money you paid, I feel you could have done better. Thye could have given you qdeo at min.
D&M has never had a Blu-ray player with SACD but without DVD-A and never called a player a universal player unless DVD-A is included as long as DVD-A has been in existence as far as I know. What formats are missing? Marvell Qdeo is good but certainly not the only good option, I will wait for independent reviews to see how well this player performs.

As far as value, that is subjective and dependent on someone's needs and preferences. It isn't like there are a lot of companies offering universal Blu-ray/SACD/DVD-A players. I only have Oppo players personally but D&M would be my second choice and both companies are certainly aware of the other's pricing and keep things competitive.

http://us.marantz.com/us/Products/Pa...oductId=UD5007

The above shows DVD-A and hopefully indicates various formats handled.
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Historically that would most often mean Funai manufactures the player, nothing wrong with that since Funai probably makes more players than any other company. We may never actually see confirmation of manufacturer.

Great looking player in any event and I expect it will perform really well. I love good Blu-ray players, good luck.
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Thanks Chris. I kinda figured they were still using Funai.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:37 AM   #9
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Can we identify the differences between this player and the Denon DBT-1713UD? Looking at the back, the players are very similar but the Marantz player has something called Flasher in and out.

http://usa.denon.com/us/product/page...3UD%20(DenonNA)
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