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Old 08-13-2004, 12:38 AM   #31
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while mpeg 4 gives better compression than mpeg 2, it compares poorly wrt quality. It is not very suitable for large resolution formats like HD. H.264 ( mpeg4 avc) is a better successor to mpeg2, offering better quality and higher compression. WMV9 also offers similar performance as H.264. MPEG4 is meant for bandwidth restricted media ( streaming) as well as advanced composition and delivery options.
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Old 08-13-2004, 01:13 AM   #32
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I haven't used Ulead VideoStudio before. I've only used Adobe Premiere 6 and I know that software has an option for higher resolution videos.

You mean It can set to higher resolution (like 1024x768) for normal DV tape recording as well? That will be great, as I think the end result will be much better...
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Old 08-13-2004, 01:15 AM   #33
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while mpeg 4 gives better compression than mpeg 2, it compares poorly wrt quality. It is not very suitable for large resolution formats like HD. H.264 ( mpeg4 avc) is a better successor to mpeg2, offering better quality and higher compression. WMV9 also offers similar performance as H.264. MPEG4 is meant for bandwidth restricted media ( streaming) as well as advanced composition and delivery options.

How can I try out these better compressions on my DV tape? Thanks.
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Old 08-13-2004, 01:45 PM   #34
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while mpeg 4 gives better compression than mpeg 2, it compares poorly wrt quality. It is not very suitable for large resolution formats like HD. H.264 ( mpeg4 avc) is a better successor to mpeg2, offering better quality and higher compression. WMV9 also offers similar performance as H.264. MPEG4 is meant for bandwidth restricted media ( streaming) as well as advanced composition and delivery options.
But you have to admit that H.264 or WMV9 or divx etc... are all different versions of Mpeg4. Some are good and some are better! There are thousands of different codecs.
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Old 08-13-2004, 01:59 PM   #35
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You mean It can set to higher resolution (like 1024x768) for normal DV tape recording as well? That will be great, as I think the end result will be much better...
I just opened up Premiere 6 to double check and yes! You can do a higher resolution like 1024x768 if you go into the custom size option but I can't say if you will get a better quality.

Your video will only be as good as the original source, so if you are planing on editing high resolution videos then you will need two things..
  1. A very fast computer with a large hard-drive
  2. An HD Video Camera
In regards to using WMV9 to incode your videos... If you have Windows Media Player 9 installed on your computer, Premiere should pick up the codec automatically. Just select WMV9 from your codec options and there you go!!! Hollywood movies in your basement! Almost!? hehe!
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Old 08-14-2004, 03:38 AM   #36
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I just opened up Premiere 6 to double check and yes! You can do a higher resolution like 1024x768 if you go into the custom size option but I can't say if you will get a better quality.

Your video will only be as good as the original source, so if you are planing on editing high resolution videos then you will need two things..
  1. A very fast computer with a large hard-drive
  2. An HD Video Camera
In regards to using WMV9 to incode your videos... If you have Windows Media Player 9 installed on your computer, Premiere should pick up the codec automatically. Just select WMV9 from your codec options and there you go!!! Hollywood movies in your basement! Almost!? hehe!

Yes, my Ulead also has the option but I just can't select. Guess mine is a limited function edition...
And yes, my CPU is only P4-1.6, too slow... My next upgrade will 3.2 or higher, but they are still so expensive now...
And of course, that HD camcorder. sigh... Wonder when their price will come down. Maybe 2-3 years later, when everyone starts to use it, then the price will be more affordable...
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Yep...

Video editing can be an expensive hobby.
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Old 08-15-2004, 10:55 AM   #38
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Yep...

Video editing can be an expensive hobby.

Have you tried the AMD 64 CPU? Is it a cheaper and better option compare to Intel?
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Old 08-15-2004, 10:55 PM   #39
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The new HD-DVD player / recorders can be made with more then one laser head reader and a chip that can recored ahead on the standard dvd or hd-dvd so that no gap in the movie take place when the disk changes in a multi disk changer. Or chip and hard drive can do it. And all of this and more will be backward and forward compatable.
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Have you tried the AMD 64 CPU? Is it a cheaper and better option compare to Intel?
My first choice would be a MAC, but in recent months the AMD chips have proven to be a viable option for video editing applications. I haven't used any AMD chips yet.

My computers are a little OLD. I only have an Apple G4 800Mhz, Pentium III 1Ghz and a Pentium4 2.2Ghz. I wont be upgrading until the end of this year when dual 16x PCI Express Motherboards are available.

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If Sony bags MGM it will all be over for HD DVD!

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Old 08-17-2004, 12:22 AM   #42
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Thumbs up HD-DVD is like "VHS" and Blu-Ray is like "Beta"

The winner is HD-DVD

Sony might have some good muscle and when the new Blu-Ray spec is released in September it might be a superior product, but HD-DVD will win because of it's vast support and because of it's Name! The average Joe will look at HD-DVD and think: "It must be a High Def version of DVD's" while the same person will look at Blu-Ray and think: "What the F*** is that?

As far as quality of movies are concerned.... There won't be a major difference. Both will be very good at doing a native signal of 1080p.
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Old 08-18-2004, 08:59 AM   #43
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My first choice would be a MAC, but in recent months the AMD chips have proven to be a viable option for video editing applications. I haven't used any AMD chips yet.

My computers are a little OLD. I only have an Apple G4 800Mhz, Pentium III 1Ghz and a Pentium4 2.2Ghz. I wont be upgrading until the end of this year when dual 16x PCI Express Motherboards are available.

Later,
All your CPUs' speed seems to be too slow according to Microsoft recommendations for playing WMVHD DVD (the 1080p version) :
Optimum Configuration (to play 1080p video with 5.1 surround sound): 3.0 GHz processor or equivalent
Do you have problem openning these files? I do. My CPU is only P4-1.6

Btw, what is this coming soon dual 16x PCI Express Motherboards? Shall I also wait for it? What good does it have for HDDVD?
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Old 08-18-2004, 08:43 PM   #44
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I would like to comment, whether or not both may be good in matters of HD quality, don't you think the Hollywood Studios won't look which disc is harder to crack for Movie Pirates. It is easy nowdays to get xvid/divx DVD rips of movies, so I think the studois will bend for 1 format which will be harder to crack in terms of dcryption.
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Blu-ray has AES 128-bit copy protection, not sure if HD DVD has finalized anything yet.
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