Martyrs (2008) - Blu-ray (France/ Region B)

Nikopol · 04-29-2009, 11:51 AM

Martyrs - Blu-ray - France - Region B

VIDEO
2/5 (for ‘HD tier’ purposes)
5/5 (in context of the nature of the source material and the artistic intention)

Medium level of details. Very high level of untouched grain. Colors are on the cold/blue side, with reduced saturation. Contrast is rather low, though whites tend to be blown out. Black levels aren’t inky, giving many darker scenes a washed out look. Shadow contrast isn’t impressive. Simply put: this is no eye candy and will fail to give you any HD wow effects and gets a 2/5 in this department.

But Martyrs was never supposed to be eye candy. This is a very gritty film shot in the Super 16 format with a low budget, which explains the level of detail. The BD is probably a very accurate reproduction of what the director had in mind. Click here for a longer explanation, frame grabs, but no plot spoilers

Spoiler:

Imo the transfer is faithful to the original film and the director’s intent. I give it a 5/5 rating in context of the source material and the artistic intention.

AUDIO - 3/5
The only audio option on my disc is french DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1. No subtitles are available. The upcoming UK release should have subtitles.

Dynamics: mediocre
Low frequency extension: hardly any
Surround Sound presentation: Mostly music and ambient noise
Clarity/Detail: good
Dialogue Reproduction: good

FILM – 4/5
Synopsis (from imdb): A young woman's quest for revenge against the people who kidnapped and tormented her as a child leads her and a friend, who is also a victim of child abuse, on a terrifying journey into a living hell of depravity.

Martyrs was directed by French director Pascal Laugier. For budget reasons (estimated 6.5 mil. US$), it was shot in Québec, Canada. The film has graphic gore, torture and shows cold blooded merciless killings. It is unpleasant to watch on many levels, don’t expect silly Eli Roth like “entertainment”.

Wow. I don’t know how to rate Martyrs. It starts rather conventional as a raw, bleak revenge story. Martyrs then takes a first strange, yet still conventional turn. Finally it leaves the beaten paths and turns towards a second half of the movie, that’s hard to stomach. In the end it becomes clear, that these weren’t turns at all. Confusing enough?

What sets this film apart from many other horror genre movies: its main point is about an existential question of the human mind. And how far one might be willing to go in order to get an answer for it. While not giving away details about the plot or the “conclusion”, the following part hidden in the spoiler tags is about the controversial second part of the movie.

Spoiler:

This film is recommended for advanced fans of horror films, who are able to look past the obvious, graphic nature of the film. Due to its controversial nature and ambiguity, rent it first. Maybe not really a masterpiece, but above average for the genre
(4/5)

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Appendix

Technical stuff

Spoiler:

locked Region B (unconfirmed)
BD25
1080p23.976 vc1
DTS-HD MA 5.1
1n39min
1.85:1
Interdit aux moins de 16 ans
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1029234/

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Spoiler:

Gear used for review

Spoiler:

sigill · 04-29-2009, 01:02 PM

Thanks for the review Niko, looks like i will be giving this one a rent out of curiosity when it arrives over here!

dsskid · 04-29-2009, 05:35 PM

Excellent review. This should be the boilerplate for all the others.

1HDMI · 04-29-2009, 08:46 PM

Nice review, Thx ......Sir?

Peter Marlowe · 04-29-2009, 09:36 PM

Nik,

I sent you a second PM regarding an issue I'd like to discuss with you; please check your PM box. Thank you.

**kamspy** · 04-30-2009, 01:43 AM

I love the format.

So much good technical information. I'll read every word of every one you write like this. It's the kind of plot review I enjoy, and all the technical aspects I like tinkering in to.

Saves me a bunch of clicking having it all in one concise place.

Literally the best format I've ever read for a BD review.

This movie does take a couple views to get the gist of.

FWIW, my wife made it through Cannibal Holocaust but left midway through this one.

The visual nature might not be as brutal as some of the 'big ones', but the motives behind it make it more powerful.

This is not your average horror flick, so take that in mind before you decide to watch it.

Nikopol · 04-30-2009, 02:06 AM

Thanks for the positive feedback, guys. I tried to combine both a lot of information and keep the review readable. Some of the spoiler tags were used to keep the review visually as short as possible, and to avoid a wall of words. Anyone who wants the additional info can open the hidden parts.

Nikopol · 04-30-2009, 02:11 AM

- delete -

MikeRox · 04-30-2009, 06:37 AM

Wow Niko, I don't know whether to attempt this or not now

I certainly wouldn't consider myself an "advanced" horror fan.

Great review, this is the sort we need, concise yet detailed.

Nikopol · 04-30-2009, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeRox

Wow Niko, I don't know whether to attempt this or not now

I certainly wouldn't consider myself an "advanced" horror fan.

Great review, this is the sort we need, concise yet detailed.

Of course you want to see it, of course.

However your missus might not to, as i think she got spooked by the ending of Mist? Martyrs comes to that kind of impact and bleak feeling after about 10 min.

dsskid · 04-30-2009, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikopol

Thanks for the positive feedback, guys. I tried to combine both a lot of information and keep the review readable. Some of the spoiler tags were used to keep the review visually as short as possible, and to avoid a wall of words. Anyone who wants the additional info can open the hidden parts.

I especially liked the use of spoiler tags. This way we get to read your review without giving away the whole movie. Excellent. Thank you.

Stew4HD · 04-30-2009, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikopol

Of course you want to see it, of course.

However your missus might not to, as i think she got spooked by the ending of Mist? Martyrs comes to that kind of impact and bleak feeling after about 10 min.

Have you seen the movie "Inside"? That was quite gory so I can imagine that I'd have no trouble with this one.. Thanks Niko.

Nikopol · 04-30-2009, 12:54 PM

Hi Stew! I have the DVD of Inside and i'm trying to track down the Scandinavian Blu-ray of it.

Martyrs is on another level.

Stew4HD · 04-30-2009, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikopol

Hi Stew! I have the DVD of Inside and i'm trying to track down the Scandinavian Blu-ray of it.

Martyrs is on another level.

Hi Nik

One another lever with violence? The graphics? The nature of the violence?

Now you have me more than intrigued!

Nikopol · 04-30-2009, 01:24 PM

Inside is an entertaining movie with a beautiful Béatrice Dalle and a happy end. (If you've seen the movie, you know i'm kidding about the end, but it doesn't leave the one watching it scarred...

).

Martyrs is a film that can actually haunt a grown man, like e.g. Irreversible does and Funny Games should have done, but failed. (Twice btw

+

@ Herrn Haneke). Erm, i digress...

It doesn't move the boundries of graphic gore, but it can sort of hurt your soul. (Or, depending on what i've hinted at in the hidden part of the review: it doesn't do anything like that at all, which is entirely up to the viewer).

04-29-2009, 11:51 AM	#1
Nikopol Uwe Boll's my hero Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Maelstrom Blu-rays: 14 Age: 5 Posts: 6,374	Martyrs (2008) - Blu-ray (France/ Region B) Martyrs - Blu-ray - France - Region B VIDEO 2/5 (for ‘HD tier’ purposes) 5/5 (in context of the nature of the source material and the artistic intention) Medium level of details. Very high level of untouched grain. Colors are on the cold/blue side, with reduced saturation. Contrast is rather low, though whites tend to be blown out. Black levels aren’t inky, giving many darker scenes a washed out look. Shadow contrast isn’t impressive. Simply put: this is no eye candy and will fail to give you any HD wow effects and gets a 2/5 in this department. But Martyrs was never supposed to be eye candy. This is a very gritty film shot in the Super 16 format with a low budget, which explains the level of detail. The BD is probably a very accurate reproduction of what the director had in mind. Click here for a longer explanation, frame grabs, but no plot spoilers Spoiler: The transfer looks to be largely untouched from what i can tell. The grain is intact and seems to be the real thing. So it’s not grain added in post production (à la 300) or fake grain after a scrubbing job (à la BFI’s Salò). It’s very similar to the grain e.g. found on the Chuck Blu-ray, which was also shot on Super 16. To give you a rough idea about how it looks, i’ve included a few screenshots. Please remember, that still frames from a movie with a lot of grain don’t give a correct impression about the pq. Grain is a moving artefact, the grain artefacts are randomly changing their place from frame to frame. In motion this works out like a transparent veil over the picture, your brain even applies some natural “noise reduction filtering”. Still frames can’t show this, so they don’t represent the moving video 100%. I couldn’t make out any serious artefacts that i could pinpoint to the transfer and preparation process. Though i will admit i am not the nitpicking kind. There is no haloing (EdgeEnhancement). I couldn’t make out compression artefacts, but with all the motion blur in the faster scenes, spotting these artefacts is rather hard. Imo the transfer is faithful to the original film and the director’s intent. I give it a 5/5 rating in context of the source material and the artistic intention. AUDIO - 3/5 The only audio option on my disc is french DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1. No subtitles are available. The upcoming UK release should have subtitles. Dynamics: mediocre Low frequency extension: hardly any Surround Sound presentation: Mostly music and ambient noise Clarity/Detail: good Dialogue Reproduction: good FILM – 4/5 Synopsis (from imdb): A young woman's quest for revenge against the people who kidnapped and tormented her as a child leads her and a friend, who is also a victim of child abuse, on a terrifying journey into a living hell of depravity. Martyrs was directed by French director Pascal Laugier. For budget reasons (estimated 6.5 mil. US$), it was shot in Québec, Canada. The film has graphic gore, torture and shows cold blooded merciless killings. It is unpleasant to watch on many levels, don’t expect silly Eli Roth like “entertainment”. Wow. I don’t know how to rate Martyrs. It starts rather conventional as a raw, bleak revenge story. Martyrs then takes a first strange, yet still conventional turn. Finally it leaves the beaten paths and turns towards a second half of the movie, that’s hard to stomach. In the end it becomes clear, that these weren’t turns at all. Confusing enough? What sets this film apart from many other horror genre movies: its main point is about an existential question of the human mind. And how far one might be willing to go in order to get an answer for it. While not giving away details about the plot or the “conclusion”, the following part hidden in the spoiler tags is about the controversial second part of the movie. Spoiler: While many genre movies now switch into the clichées of ‘Now it gets really bad’ or ‘now let’s fight back!’, this film gets, erm, hopeless. And it stays there for a long time. Many people are describing this part of Martyrs as hardly bearable or to be an exploitation. Once the motivation is revealed though, it becomes clear what we’ve had to witness/suffer through and why. The difficulty here is, that the reason is not sadism. Whether you can or cannot accept the reasons and motivation given, will play a major factor if you think this is a great film for the genre, or just a film displaying gratuitous violence for sick minds. I didn’t really “get it” the first time. After watching the extras and reading some discussions about the movie, it turns out it is rather thought provoking. And be warned, (thankfully) it is very ambiguous in both the explanation given and the consequences drawn from it…. This film is recommended for advanced fans of horror films, who are able to look past the obvious, graphic nature of the film. Due to its controversial nature and ambiguity, rent it first. Maybe not really a masterpiece, but above average for the genre (4/5) ================================================== = Appendix Technical stuff Spoiler: locked Region B (unconfirmed) BD25 1080p23.976 vc1 DTS-HD MA 5.1 1n39min 1.85:1 Interdit aux moins de 16 ans http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1029234/ Code: PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00003.MPLS Size: 17.319.628.800 bytes Length: 1:39:16 (h:m:s) Total Bitrate: 23,26 Mbps Description: VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- VC-1 Video 19991 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3 AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- DTS-HD Master Audio French 1997 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1997 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit) FILES: Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate ---- ------- ------ ---- ------------- 00004.M2TS 0:00:00.000 1:39:16.450 17.319.628.800 23.262 CHAPTERS: Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time ------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- 1 0:00:00.000 0:08:19.040 19.463 kbps 34.719 kbps 00:03:05.852 30.804 kbps 00:03:05.727 29.153 kbps 00:03:05.059 102.251 bytes 268.360 bytes 00:00:43.793 2 0:08:19.040 0:06:32.475 21.009 kbps 31.344 kbps 00:14:50.431 24.807 kbps 00:08:40.770 24.436 kbps 00:08:39.060 109.532 bytes 299.168 bytes 00:09:27.692 3 0:14:51.515 0:09:28.025 21.125 kbps 38.518 kbps 00:14:52.141 30.325 kbps 00:14:51.515 26.127 kbps 00:14:51.557 110.134 bytes 314.556 bytes 00:22:48.950 4 0:24:19.541 0:09:30.319 20.629 kbps 31.387 kbps 00:28:38.258 26.792 kbps 00:28:35.463 24.948 kbps 00:24:23.295 107.584 bytes 298.032 bytes 00:24:26.047 5 0:33:49.861 0:11:38.614 20.946 kbps 42.015 kbps 00:43:28.022 34.290 kbps 00:43:27.062 31.845 kbps 00:43:24.268 109.271 bytes 416.182 bytes 00:43:28.314 6 0:45:28.475 0:10:54.904 19.546 kbps 28.120 kbps 00:52:52.544 25.045 kbps 00:53:06.558 24.712 kbps 00:53:01.636 102.035 bytes 286.053 bytes 00:56:23.004 7 0:56:23.380 0:08:55.660 19.877 kbps 29.311 kbps 00:59:12.590 26.831 kbps 00:59:12.590 25.278 kbps 00:57:38.246 104.174 bytes 359.987 bytes 00:56:24.172 8 1:05:19.040 0:09:32.613 19.233 kbps 25.731 kbps 01:09:51.645 22.615 kbps 01:13:12.012 22.130 kbps 01:06:31.821 101.326 bytes 233.676 bytes 01:11:31.954 9 1:14:51.653 0:07:20.398 18.139 kbps 26.150 kbps 01:17:04.494 23.525 kbps 01:16:29.626 22.850 kbps 01:16:28.125 96.208 bytes 234.400 bytes 01:14:55.741 10 1:22:12.052 0:07:39.792 22.145 kbps 40.140 kbps 01:28:40.106 35.298 kbps 01:28:36.352 33.255 kbps 01:28:20.837 115.538 bytes 408.301 bytes 01:28:40.732 11 1:29:51.844 0:06:03.863 19.196 kbps 27.636 kbps 01:32:14.987 25.300 kbps 01:32:14.529 24.767 kbps 01:32:25.373 101.099 bytes 290.869 bytes 01:30:01.604 12 1:35:55.708 0:03:20.742 15.450 kbps 38.765 kbps 01:35:58.961 34.517 kbps 01:35:58.335 30.806 kbps 01:35:57.001 81.154 bytes 250.348 bytes 01:35:58.502 STREAM DIAGNOSTICS: File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets ---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- ----- 00004.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0xEA VC-1 5956,325 19.991 14.884.344.002 80.979.588 00004.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x86 DTS-HD MA fra (French) 5956,325 1.997 1.487.047.520 9.027.222 Bitrate chart Spoiler: Gear used for review Spoiler: Marantz VP12S4 720p DLP front projector on 2 meter wide screen in light controlled room – Dell 1920x1080p monitor - PS3 – HTPC – Onkyo 886 pre/pro – Adam Audio A7 + subwoofer 5.1 setup

04-29-2009, 01:02 PM	#2
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04-29-2009, 05:35 PM	#3
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04-29-2009, 09:36 PM	#5
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04-30-2009, 01:43 AM	#6
kamspy ʎdsɯɐʞ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: CLASSIFIED Assassin Mod Posts: 13,862	I love the format. So much good technical information. I'll read every word of every one you write like this. It's the kind of plot review I enjoy, and all the technical aspects I like tinkering in to. Saves me a bunch of clicking having it all in one concise place. Literally the best format I've ever read for a BD review. This movie does take a couple views to get the gist of. FWIW, my wife made it through Cannibal Holocaust but left midway through this one. The visual nature might not be as brutal as some of the 'big ones', but the motives behind it make it more powerful. This is not your average horror flick, so take that in mind before you decide to watch it. __________________ It's probably got C4 on it.

04-29-2009, 08:46 PM	#4
1HDMI What ...? Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 181	Nice review, Thx ......Sir?

04-30-2009, 02:06 AM	#7
Nikopol Uwe Boll's my hero Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Maelstrom Blu-rays: 14 Age: 5 Posts: 6,374	Thanks for the positive feedback, guys. I tried to combine both a lot of information and keep the review readable. Some of the spoiler tags were used to keep the review visually as short as possible, and to avoid a wall of words. Anyone who wants the additional info can open the hidden parts.

04-30-2009, 02:11 AM	#8
Nikopol Uwe Boll's my hero Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Maelstrom Blu-rays: 14 Age: 5 Posts: 6,374	- delete - Last edited by Nikopol; 04-30-2009 at 02:53 AM.

04-30-2009, 06:37 AM	#9
MikeRox Blu Blu Skies! :D Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huddersfield, United Kingdom Posts: 13,064	Wow Niko, I don't know whether to attempt this or not now I certainly wouldn't consider myself an "advanced" horror fan. Great review, this is the sort we need, concise yet detailed. __________________ Latest HD additions - Origin - Watchmen - Chaos - Cinderella Man - Terminator Salvation HD Movies - Um... Lost count >_< bout 250 Latest Gaming Additions - Batman Arkham Asylum - Borderlands - New Super Mario Bros - Spectrobes Origins - Rabbids Go Home -

04-30-2009, 12:54 PM	#13
Nikopol Uwe Boll's my hero Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Maelstrom Blu-rays: 14 Age: 5 Posts: 6,374	Hi Stew! I have the DVD of Inside and i'm trying to track down the Scandinavian Blu-ray of it. Martyrs is on another level.

04-30-2009, 01:24 PM	#15
Nikopol Uwe Boll's my hero Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Maelstrom Blu-rays: 14 Age: 5 Posts: 6,374	Inside is an entertaining movie with a beautiful Béatrice Dalle and a happy end. (If you've seen the movie, you know i'm kidding about the end, but it doesn't leave the one watching it scarred... ). Martyrs is a film that can actually haunt a grown man, like e.g. Irreversible does and Funny Games should have done, but failed. (Twice btw + @ Herrn Haneke). Erm, i digress... It doesn't move the boundries of graphic gore, but it can sort of hurt your soul. (Or, depending on what i've hinted at in the hidden part of the review: it doesn't do anything like that at all, which is entirely up to the viewer).

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