Worst possible Blu-Ray's...

Peter Marlowe · 03-10-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard

I like "Van Helsing". It pays tribute to the great Universal Horror films of the 30's and 40's and is great silly fun with absurd CGI. You have to like bad cinema to like it, I can't disagree, but I like movies that are bad, so bad that I am entertained.

For the worst Blu-ray release, meaning bad movie with the worse picture quality, this 20 disc $299.99 value set that I purchased for $68 delivered is a good place to search:

http://www.amazon.com/Blu-Cube-20-Pa.../dp/B001F2U778

I have watched 8 of these and have been entertained, a couple are actually good movies and several are actually good transfers but I recognize potential for worst ever in the set. If by worst ever, you mean good film that has been given a poor transfer, this set won't qualify.

Chris

I agree about Van Helsing -- the point was that it did play homage to the old Universal monster films. It is definitely NOT "dogshit."

I liked Van Helsing in the theater, and still like it on DVD -- the widescreen and fullscreen standard def DVDs are solid transfers and the Dolby Digital track is nice and spacious. Good work by Universal there...

Now y'all are gonna make me want to take Hugh Jackman and the deliciously sexy Kate Beckensale off the shelf...

Peter Marlowe · 03-10-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeRox

I was very dissapointed with Batman Begins, it's just not as sharp as it should have been. It's by no means a bad transfer, it's just got a great one. The Dark Knight also should have been much better than it was. BAD WARNER BROS! HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME!

I agree about Batman Begins, Mike; while most -- perhaps 98 percent -- of The Dark Knight looked great, it still could have looked a bit better, especially the non-IMAX sequences (pointed out in great detail in almost every home theater publication that has reviewed the title)...but with Batman Begins, let me say this: The DVD looked much worse, with compression artifacts galore littering the screen, and the Blu-ray could have made this film jump out a little better. I wouldn't say I was "very dissapointed" like you did, I don't think I would have double dipped on this if I didn't receive it as a holiday gift this past year.

That said, there may have been some intentional softening by Nolan and crew to give Gotham that "smoked out" look they were going for -- I know for a fact Singer did it in Superman Returns using HD cameras, and that's why every format looks soft and "milky" on Superman Returns. After all, let's be reasonable here: A film like Batman Begins is really not supposed to look exactly like, say, Cars or Ratatouille in high def -- it's not that kind of material. We're dealing with a dark comic origin story that was intentionally supposed to look gloomy and foreboding. So we have to give Warner and the filmmakers some wiggle room with this; still, the details could have popped a bit better with some more "high def depth" to the image that we all long for.

PioneerElitist · 03-10-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rubystone1111

It makes movies like batman and robin, howard the duck, episode 2, pearl harbor, t3 look like fucking oscar winners in comparasion.

Pearl Harbor was an Oscar Winner lol.

soupnazi · 03-10-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Marlowe

No...oh brother how can you say because a show had some kind of following the motion picture version automatically gets made out to be saintly in nature....

You shouldn't blow it out of proportion like that.

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saintly in nature

?? I didn't imply that at all
You said it was one of the worst movies ever made. I disagreed with that but I didn't say it was on the other end of the spectrum either.

The O Brother where art thou comment was a joke by the way

Just to keep things on topic here. What does being a bad movie have to do with being a bad blu-ray?

soupnazi · 03-10-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PioneerElitist

Pearl Harbor was an Oscar Winner lol.

What the hell??? I thought it should have been nominated for a razzie award.
Must have been because of the 60th anniversary of Pearl Harbor attack.

rubystone1111 · 03-10-2009, 11:01 PM

I was comparing pearl harbor to van helsing.. they are both shitty movies.. but van helsing is worse.
if you guys like van hesling.. you truely need some serious help.

Jacob

Peter Marlowe · 03-11-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PioneerElitist

Pearl Harbor was an Oscar Winner lol.

No...he said "fucking Oscar Winner"...

Peter Marlowe · 03-11-2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by soupnazi

You shouldn't blow it out of proportion like that. ?? I didn't imply that at all
You said it was one of the worst movies ever made. I disagreed with that but I didn't say it was on the other end of the spectrum either.

The O Brother where art thou comment was a joke by the way

Just to keep things on topic here. What does being a bad movie have to do with being a bad blu-ray?

I KNOW the comment was a joke...so was my comeback, in a small way...

Look, it seemed to my eyes that you were implying that Stargate (I think that's what we were talking about -- I don't even know anymore

) was some kind of great motion picture because a long-running "show" was based on it, and I have often heard it been called one of the worst films ever; I shared that opinion. They're just OPINIONS -- and the comment I made regarding "well, the first mistake you made was watching Stargate" was meant SERIOUSLY by ME, but as a joke to "fans" of the film...

Now, with regard to your other question, if you read my original post in this thread, I DID ask "are we talking about FILMS that sucked, or transfers?" and I didn't get an answer; everyone just kind of said what they wanted about Blu-ray transfer qualities -- so I'm not sure what the original intent of the thread was.

Chris Gerhard · 03-11-2009, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rubystone1111

van helsing does not pay tribute to the old 30s and 40s movies. it was just crap.

I won't argue with you regarding your opinion of the film, I suspect you are in the majority but here is a quote from Wikipedia regarding the other issue and you are just flat wrong about that and may not have seen the films from Universal in the 30's and 40's that I referred to.

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[edit] Homages to classic Universal Horror Films
Van Helsing pays homage to many Classic Universal monster films, essentially the ones involving Dracula, the Frankenstein monster, and the Wolf Man. The most obvious homage is the opening scene, which harks back to the original Frankenstein movie. Here is a list of other classic scenes in the movie.

Dracula's introduction to himself taken from "Dracula"
The windmill filled with water is from The Bride of Frankenstein.
Van Helsing's Fight with Dracula as a werewolf is from Larry Talbot's fight with Dracula in Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein.
The monster's fight with one of Dracula's brides draws from the scene where the monster throws Dracula's assistant out the window in Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein.
The magical poem found in the castle is from The Wolfman
Van Helsing's cure from being a werewolf and Anna's death resulting from it are part of the scene where Ilonka kills Larry Talbot in House of Frankenstein.
Part of that scene also appears in Velkan's death.
One of Dracula's brides getting killed by crossbow bolts could draw from the demise of Dracula's Daughter.
Dracula plotting to use the Frankenstein monster for his own personal gain is from the plot of Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein.
The monster being frozen in a block of ice is from Frankenstein meets The Wolf Man and House of Frankenstein.

Chris

Stew4HD · 03-11-2009, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Gerhard

I won't argue with you regarding your opinion of the film, I suspect you are in the majority but here is a quote from Wikipedia regarding the other issue and you are just flat wrong about that and may not have seen the films from Universal in the 30's and 40's that I referred to.

Chris

Well said and quoted! As a fan of the old time horror classics, I thought Van Helsing was entertaining and fun.. campy? Yes but still quite watchable.

As for Stargate... I like that one too.

Worst BD? IMO, Superbad.

MikeRox · 03-11-2009, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Stew4HD

Well said and quoted! As a fan of the old time horror classics, I thought Van Helsing was entertaining and fun.. campy? Yes but still quite watchable.

As for Stargate... I like that one too.

Worst BD? IMO, Superbad.

I enjoyed Van Helsing on HD DVD and it looked fantastic

Star Gate Imo is an alright film, but the TV series really trumps it. That sort of universe IMO lends itself a lot better to a TV series though as theres so much time and opportunity to truly explore and appreciate the universe.

Superbad? It's not just me then, I found the film dumb and about as fun as drinking paint. I guess I don't "get" that humour though. Loved 40 Year Old Virgin, Knocked Up was okay. Superbad was exactly as it's titled, Pineapple Express I think you had to be stoned and/or have been a stoner in the past to appreciate.

soupnazi · 03-11-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Marlowe

Now, with regard to your other question, if you read my original post in this thread, I DID ask "are we talking about FILMS that sucked, or transfers?" and I didn't get an answer; everyone just kind of said what they wanted about Blu-ray transfer qualities -- so I'm not sure what the original intent of the thread was.

I think everything here just got side tracked a little.
The title " Worst possible blu-ray's..." with the etc ... at the end of the title leaves it open for other meanings. Does it mean movies that have been released on BD? or should it mean the quality of the BD?
I think it turned out be mean a combination of the two.

rubystone1111 · 03-11-2009, 01:41 PM

I have the the 30s dracula and frankenstein. they are fine films.. not silly like the stupid peice of shit that van helsing is.
the actor who played dracula in van helsing isa terrible actor.. made gary oldman look good.. made coppola dracula much better.
Jacob

Stew4HD · 03-11-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rubystone1111

I have the the 30s dracula and frankenstein. they are fine films.. not silly like the stupid peice of shit that van helsing is.
the actor who played dracula in van helsing isa terrible actor.. made gary oldman look good.. made coppola dracula much better.
Jacob

We all get that you dislike Van Helsing. I like the movie and enough others did to have it sell well. Is it a great movie? Nah but still a good watch and I have watched it more than once plus it was worth a double dip on HD DVD for me.

PioneerElitist · 03-11-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rubystone1111

I have the the 30s dracula and frankenstein. they are fine films.. not silly like the stupid peice of shit that van helsing is.
the actor who played dracula in van helsing isa terrible actor.. made gary oldman look good.. made coppola dracula much better.
Jacob

Lets get on with it, we know you don't like Van Helsing. You're not bettering your case by these horrible comparisons you continue to draw. Gary Oldman won the Saturn award for playing Dracula in Coppola's Dracula of 1992 (Which is a well renowned award for sci-fi/horror films). This film also won 3 Oscars, and many felt it was a great movie.

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03-10-2009, 11:01 PM	#36
rubystone1111 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 398	I was comparing pearl harbor to van helsing.. they are both shitty movies.. but van helsing is worse. if you guys like van hesling.. you truely need some serious help. Jacob

03-11-2009, 01:41 PM	#43
rubystone1111 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 398	I have the the 30s dracula and frankenstein. they are fine films.. not silly like the stupid peice of shit that van helsing is. the actor who played dracula in van helsing isa terrible actor.. made gary oldman look good.. made coppola dracula much better. Jacob