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Old 02-18-2008, 11:06 PM   #1
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Most of the Blu-Ray product in the marketplace is, so far, Blu-Ray versions of existing DVDs, and many of these will require our manipulation of the aspect ratio. Are there any changes in Blu-Ray disk formatting that will provide for full screen display without such manipulation?



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Old 02-19-2008, 10:00 AM   #2
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Most of the Blu-Ray product in the marketplace is, so far, Blu-Ray versions of existing DVDs, and many of these will require our manipulation of the aspect ratio. Are there any changes in Blu-Ray disk formatting that will provide for full screen display without such manipulation?



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why would you want a full screen version.
wide screen is where its at.
don't count on full screen usless its a older movie but then you get side bars
get use to it.
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:12 AM   #3
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I don't think any Blu ray content provider would be dumb enough to make a "full screen" version. If you want full screen, buy just TV programs and made for TV movies.
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:29 AM   #4
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Most of the Blu-Ray product in the marketplace is, so far, Blu-Ray versions of existing DVDs, and many of these will require our manipulation of the aspect ratio.
What's required? Just pop in the disk & watch the way it's intended. If you want to distort the picture just to fill you screen why bother with HD in the first place?
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:57 AM   #5
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Default The "Full Screen" and Top and Bottom Bars

I should have made clear that I'm trying to avoid burn-in on my plasma panel and burn-in is just as likely to occur with the top and bottom black bars that appear on wide-screen films. Just seeing the image as formatted originally is aesthetically appropriate but extremely risky.

(I know, I should have purchased an LCD, but I didn't want to play video games and I wanted to watch sports as well as movies, so the plasma was my choice-and the PQ is excellent).
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I think he means full screen as in 16:9 aspect ratio, so "full screen" on a wide screen television. If this is what you mean I think the only one I've seen so far in that aspect ratio was Silent Hill (and I'm not even sure about that one, it has been awhile).
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Old 02-19-2008, 03:13 PM   #7
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jbadamantium is correct. I'd like to be able to view a 16:9 widescreen film without either black bars or zoom distortion at least until burn-in risk is greatly reduced.
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I should have made clear that I'm trying to avoid burn-in on my plasma panel and burn-in is just as likely to occur with the top and bottom black bars that appear on wide-screen films. Just seeing the image as formatted originally is aesthetically appropriate but extremely risky.

(I know, I should have purchased an LCD, but I didn't want to play video games and I wanted to watch sports as well as movies, so the plasma was my choice-and the PQ is excellent).
Blu-ray software providers have no inclination to crop programming or pan and scan to make it fit a 16x9 display. Fortunately a lot of programming is being made for 16x9 displays so you don't always have to worry about the issue, but I wouldn't worry about it anyway personally.

Watch the programming in the original aspect ratio and take your chances with burn-in is my suggestion. Some things in life are worth the associated risks. Don't start smoking however, that isn't one of those things.

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Full Screen = 4:3
Widescreen = 16:9

I too am a proud plasma owner who didn't want to worry about burn-in. What I do is simply put my TV into zoom mode once I start the film, and bam, no bars, and I lose so little of the original theater aspect ratio video I can't even tell!

I don't recommend leaving bars on your screen each time you view a movie, although if you must, use gray bars if you can set them to that color, as they age the pixels more like random motion content would (vs black, which will cause burn in faster and more easily). But again, just zoom in and enjoy. Since its HD you can't even tell its being zoomed into.
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Old 02-20-2008, 12:16 PM   #10
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I also use "zoom" for older films, and it works well except for some of the VHS tapes I've converted to DVD-R on my DVDR that have been under- or over-scanned (I'm not sure which is correct) to leave a noticeable but narrow vertical band at the screen's left side, even on zoom, and I'm not yet comfortable risking my plasma for these fairly rare exceptions.

In any event, I'm not one of the "purists" who would rather not watch a film at all than miss maybe 5%. I'm an old-film buff, not a technology buff, so I zoom them and enjoy them.
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Old 03-05-2008, 01:19 PM   #11
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shouldn't a wide-screen movie completely fill a wide screen tv, hello whats the point of a wide screen tv. bluray is 1080p so is my tv so if the screen isn't completly filled by the movie then its not really 1080p no???
its stupid. I spent a lot of money on my 65 inch 1080p wide screen tv and a ps3 but when i watch blu ray movies on them they have black bars on the top and bottom. WTF
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You need to understand that "widescreen" movies are not filmed with the same ratio. Some movies original ratio is 2.35:1 and some are 1.78:1 ratio. Widescreen TV are all 1.78:1 ratio. So, if you watch the "widest" 2.35:1 ratio, you will get black borders on your widescreen TV unless you crop the movie.

If you are wondering why widescreen TVs aren't made to be 2.35:1 ratio, it's because if playing 1.78:1 ratio movies will have side black borders. It's like watching full screen movies on widescreen TV because now the TV screen is too wide.

So, 1.78:1 ratio becomes the most "practical" ratio for widescreen TVs.
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Here's a good site explaining widescreen movie ratios:
http://www.cluelessabout.com/horizon...screen-tv.html
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Full Screen = 4:3
Widescreen = 16:9

I too am a proud plasma owner who didn't want to worry about burn-in. What I do is simply put my TV into zoom mode once I start the film, and bam, no bars, and I lose so little of the original theater aspect ratio video I can't even tell!
Not that I would want to do this anyway, but I can't even do this on my HD set. It does not allow for aspect ratio changes of an HD source coming thru the HDMI input (my PS3).
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shouldn't a wide-screen movie completely fill a wide screen tv, hello whats the point of a wide screen tv. bluray is 1080p so is my tv so if the screen isn't completly filled by the movie then its not really 1080p no???
its stupid. I spent a lot of money on my 65 inch 1080p wide screen tv and a ps3 but when i watch blu ray movies on them they have black bars on the top and bottom. WTF
yeah no sheeeit , and it gets really annoying when the women ask "why are those bars there?" thats not right, and being that iam the furthest thing from a "tekky" it is hard for me to explain this , id like a simple one sentence reply that someone could help me with what should i say?? now i just say its suppose to be like that its better like that or whatever but WTF>??
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