3:10 To Yuma on BluRay

chagopian · 01-18-2008, 11:22 PM

That was an awesome movie, I don't understand everyone's negativity about this.

The performances were great, the writing was spot on, and the direction was very satisfying. Some spots near the end rely too much for the casual viewer to THINK, but otherwise, I don't see why they should have too much trouble finishing this film.

Why is it that when a Western comes out with feeling and emotion that rely's more on character relationships than it does on the ever longing final shootout, that the genre's fans abandon it completely? And why is Russell Crow's character a total phsycopathic mass murderer? Who says he gets cured? He's going to ESCAPE again, it's one of the reasons why he agreed to let Dan take him to the train. Dan's kid pretty much nails Ben on the spot when he says he's not all that bad, and the only time you get a clear vision of Ben being bad is when his biggest naysayers come after him, or when he tries to make himself look tough in front of the kid, or his dad.

Truth be told, I didn't like the apache scene much either. But as a plot vehicle, it worked fine enough, and it's probably the lowest point of the film.

ChiefJoseph · 01-22-2008, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by chagopian

That was an awesome movie, I don't understand everyone's negativity about this.

The performances were great, the writing was spot on, and the direction was very satisfying. Some spots near the end rely too much for the casual viewer to THINK, but otherwise, I don't see why they should have too much trouble finishing this film.

Why is it that when a Western comes out with feeling and emotion that rely's more on character relationships than it does on the ever longing final shootout, that the genre's fans abandon it completely? And why is Russell Crow's character a total phsycopathic mass murderer? Who says he gets cured? He's going to ESCAPE again, it's one of the reasons why he agreed to let Dan take him to the train. Dan's kid pretty much nails Ben on the spot when he says he's not all that bad, and the only time you get a clear vision of Ben being bad is when his biggest naysayers come after him, or when he tries to make himself look tough in front of the kid, or his dad.

Truth be told, I didn't like the apache scene much either. But as a plot vehicle, it worked fine enough, and it's probably the lowest point of the film.

the problem is, all the scenes were like the apache scene. He got on the train of his own choice at the end. Why would he escape later when he could have just walked off at that time. In the movie he killed more than 10 people, a small amount considered how many he was supposed to have killed before. That's by definition a mass murderer. There was never any development in the 2 characters to even understand why crowe's character would even like bales character. I'm a huge fan of the American western. I've read every Louis Lamour book among others and took a year long course in college as an elective covering from 1800 to 1900. When I watch a western, I want to get the feel of the old west, not a hollywood jazzed up farce. Open Range does it for me. This movie did not.

Chris Gerhard · 01-22-2008, 03:04 AM

I purchased this Blu-ray as blind buy. I watched it using my PS3 last night and it played perfectly. I will put in my Samsung BD-P1000 as soon as I think about it, just to see if it loads and appears to play properly. I have already read reports that it does play in the BD-P1000 so I expect I won't observe any issues. Of course without playing the entire film, I won't know if the player has some issues playing it.

As far as the movie, it is a loud violent western and the story is preposterous. Without having read anything about it, I had expected the violence, but had also expected more realistic action and characters. I like mind numbing nonsense as well as anyone, but I need to expect it going in to not be continually thinking, "now why would that idiot do that?" or "that is not possible". After it was over, I only thought it was ok and not worth owning. As is normally the case for Blu-ray, it does have lossless surround audio, this time uncompressed PCM.

Chris

Chris Gerhard · 01-22-2008, 08:04 AM

It loaded fine with my BD-P1000 and I skipped around some and everything appears fine. As far as I know, my BD-P1000 plays all new releases.

Chris

brennanite07 · 01-28-2008, 06:19 AM

Having had the BD of this film sitting in my Netflix queue forever I had to switch it to DVD to get it faster. Upconverted on my A2 it looked just fine. Now, having seen the film I'll probably buy the BD to get an expanded soundtrack.

wartseng · 02-19-2008, 10:27 PM

pretty good movie. good plot, great actors. best western movie in awhile. def check it out!

Bravestime · 03-20-2008, 10:44 PM

The movie was decent, but the PQ and AQ was great. The AQ was powerful and sharp. Overall, this was a good movie, but not great.

dale124 · 03-21-2008, 09:24 AM

I watched it last weekend on Sd dvd (my local Rogers video didn't have the BD copy, damnit). I liked the movie. I have since bought the blu ray version, but have yet to watch that copy, although I did try it briefly to see how the PQ was (looked good)

Hank Hill · 03-29-2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefJoseph

I agree, this movie sucked so hard. Open Range is far better than this jumbled mess. Plot was ridiculous. I especially hated the scene where crowe sneaks up on the apaches. My god, Apaches were the greatest guerilla fighters ever. They would never have been sneaked up on and they never would have found a spot that far away and took pot shots while never moving. Apaches were the original rambos. crowe is so good he can take out his entire crew with one 6 shooter but couldn't escape that group of misfits. Or at the end help him and get on the train on his own. GOD I HATED THAT MOVIE. Save your money and watch Open Range again.

Apart from the plausibility factor in that scene I give the movie a 6.5. But with me, any movie with cowboys and horses starts off with a 4.

Mase · 03-31-2008, 11:32 AM

First off the AQ was amazing I really loved the Audio in this film, The PQ was on par but I expected as much being a highly touted BRD and all..

The actual movie for me was meh, it was good but not great. I think the acting was really the saving grace for this film.

AQ:5/5
PQ:5/5
Movie Itself:3/5

GLOW · 03-31-2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wartseng

best western movie in awhile.

You should definitely see The Assassination of Jesse James By the Coward Robert Ford then. It's much better and it's available on BD. The picture quality isn't outstanding but the movie is excellent. More of a moody drama than a western but a western all the same. I was gonna review it for the forum but decided against it since I've got a soft spot for anything about Jesse James. A bunch of Missouri James Gang stories have been passed down 3 generations in my family.

Mase · 03-31-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GLOW

You should definitely see The Assassination of Jesse James By the Coward Robert Ford then. It's much better and it's available on BD. The picture quality isn't outstanding but the movie is excellent. More of a moody drama than a western but a western all the same. I was gonna review it for the forum but decided against it since I've got a soft spot for anything about Jesse James. A bunch of Missouri James Gang stories have been passed down 3 generations in my family.

Review it Glow biased or not

, I personally thought it was like a docu-drama type of thing so it turned me off to the movie altogether.. The Blu Ray section for reviews on HDF is thin for how many BR supporters HDF has.. The more movie reviews the better imo

iDarren · 05-01-2008, 04:51 AM

A few review sites say this suffers from overzealous Edge Enhancement. Anyone who has or has watched the disk care to comment?

Chris Gerhard · 05-01-2008, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by iDarren

A few review sites say this suffers from overzealous Edge Enhancement. Anyone who has or has watched the disk care to comment?

I didn't find it to have overzealous edge enhancement at all. Video quality is above average for a LionsGate release in my opinion. Disney/Buena Vista and Sony do much better and Fox does slightly better than LionsGate based on my experience. This one is good if want a showcase for loud, violent mind numbing nonsense action. If you want realistic western action, story and characters, stick with the TV show "The Wild Wild West", it was much more believable.

Chris

markfoto · 05-22-2008, 06:47 PM

Watched it last night; this is a good western, although the area they call "Bisbee" looks nothing remotely like the town of Bisbee, or its environment. The Apache scene that has all of you riled up is perfectly plausible; for a small group of scouts to create havoc. I think it lacks the impact of the original, but Crowe and Bale are stellar.
Had no issues in my Samsung BDP UP5000

01-18-2008, 11:22 PM	#16
chagopian I <3 High Def Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Markham, Ontario Posts: 155	That was an awesome movie, I don't understand everyone's negativity about this. The performances were great, the writing was spot on, and the direction was very satisfying. Some spots near the end rely too much for the casual viewer to THINK, but otherwise, I don't see why they should have too much trouble finishing this film. Why is it that when a Western comes out with feeling and emotion that rely's more on character relationships than it does on the ever longing final shootout, that the genre's fans abandon it completely? And why is Russell Crow's character a total phsycopathic mass murderer? Who says he gets cured? He's going to ESCAPE again, it's one of the reasons why he agreed to let Dan take him to the train. Dan's kid pretty much nails Ben on the spot when he says he's not all that bad, and the only time you get a clear vision of Ben being bad is when his biggest naysayers come after him, or when he tries to make himself look tough in front of the kid, or his dad. Truth be told, I didn't like the apache scene much either. But as a plot vehicle, it worked fine enough, and it's probably the lowest point of the film. __________________ HD-DVD: Heartbreak Kid, The Kingdom, The Zodiac 34 Blu-Ray: Total Recall, Independence Day, Gone Baby Gone 10 Last edited by chagopian; 01-18-2008 at 11:29 PM.

03-21-2008, 09:24 AM	#23
dale124 Officially Purple Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 163	I watched it last weekend on Sd dvd (my local Rogers video didn't have the BD copy, damnit). I liked the movie. I have since bought the blu ray version, but have yet to watch that copy, although I did try it briefly to see how the PQ was (looked good) __________________ Sharp LC52D82U Yamaha RX-V1300 Toshiba HD-A30 Sony 40Gig PS-3 Paradigm PS-1000 (subwoofer) JBL LX55 main (speakers) Wharfdale Diamond III (surround speakers) Motorola DTC6416 III (hd pvr)

03-31-2008, 11:32 AM	#25
Mase HD Ninja Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Some place hot Posts: 7,763	First off the AQ was amazing I really loved the Audio in this film, The PQ was on par but I expected as much being a highly touted BRD and all.. The actual movie for me was meh, it was good but not great. I think the acting was really the saving grace for this film. AQ:5/5 PQ:5/5 Movie Itself:3/5 __________________ PlayStation 3 : legndKiller Xbox 360: Legnd K1ller Steam ID: Legnd_Killer Currently playing BlackOps 2 (360) Tomb Raider (PC) Gears of War: Judgement (360)

05-01-2008, 04:51 AM	#28
iDarren Hi-Def Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,227	A few review sites say this suffers from overzealous Edge Enhancement. Anyone who has or has watched the disk care to comment? __________________ www.bogieonline.com www.mcqueenonline.com

05-22-2008, 06:47 PM	#30
markfoto Ah, HDTV Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West of the Rockies, from Montana to Mexico Posts: 204	Watched it last night; this is a good western, although the area they call "Bisbee" looks nothing remotely like the town of Bisbee, or its environment. The Apache scene that has all of you riled up is perfectly plausible; for a small group of scouts to create havoc. I think it lacks the impact of the original, but Crowe and Bale are stellar. Had no issues in my Samsung BDP UP5000 __________________ In My Motorhome: Panasonic TH-42PHD7UY Plasma Monitor (w/Component and HDMI blades) Samsung BDP-UP5000 Duo Format Player Panasonic XR55K Receiver Polk Surround Bar Polk sub Dish Network ViP 211 receiver 1000.2 dish Harmony 880 remote 51 HD DVDs 12 Blu Ray discs

01-22-2008, 03:04 AM	#18
Chris Gerhard High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,789	I purchased this Blu-ray as blind buy. I watched it using my PS3 last night and it played perfectly. I will put in my Samsung BD-P1000 as soon as I think about it, just to see if it loads and appears to play properly. I have already read reports that it does play in the BD-P1000 so I expect I won't observe any issues. Of course without playing the entire film, I won't know if the player has some issues playing it. As far as the movie, it is a loud violent western and the story is preposterous. Without having read anything about it, I had expected the violence, but had also expected more realistic action and characters. I like mind numbing nonsense as well as anyone, but I need to expect it going in to not be continually thinking, "now why would that idiot do that?" or "that is not possible". After it was over, I only thought it was ok and not worth owning. As is normally the case for Blu-ray, it does have lossless surround audio, this time uncompressed PCM. Chris

01-22-2008, 08:04 AM	#19
Chris Gerhard High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10,789	It loaded fine with my BD-P1000 and I skipped around some and everything appears fine. As far as I know, my BD-P1000 plays all new releases. Chris

01-28-2008, 06:19 AM	#20
brennanite07 A couch and an HDTV to go please. Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 14	Having had the BD of this film sitting in my Netflix queue forever I had to switch it to DVD to get it faster. Upconverted on my A2 it looked just fine. Now, having seen the film I'll probably buy the BD to get an expanded soundtrack.

02-19-2008, 10:27 PM	#21
wartseng My plasma is High Def. Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6	pretty good movie. good plot, great actors. best western movie in awhile. def check it out!

03-20-2008, 10:44 PM	#22
Bravestime Supporter of HiDef Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Aiken, SC Age: 56 Posts: 4,510	The movie was decent, but the PQ and AQ was great. The AQ was powerful and sharp. Overall, this was a good movie, but not great.

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