Favre officially with the Vikings

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4406963

I don't get what people see in him. Yes, he's a good QB, but just that, good. Not great and d@mn sure not worth 25 million for two years. Not to mention next year there will be more of the "on the fence" nonsense.

The Vikings have the potential to be a quality team for several years. But instead of investing or looking for a quality QB. They over paid for a one or two year max, good at best QB.

People need to quit hanging on to his past...the legend of Favre way surpasses Favre the current QB.

I know Minnesota sees $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ in him!

I agree that he is not great. BUT he is an x factor.He almost took the JETS to the Playoffs last year. I think he thrives on this. And for whatever reason (QB shortage?) teams respond. $25mil? No way. I think he must have a lot family members to feed or something...

I'm predicting Farve considers retirement after each loss this season and appears on The View at least 4 time and Oprah twice to talk about the painful decisions he's faced with every week or two. Drama Queen. I'd of picked up Vick, probably just as good right now, cheap, and may be there for a few years.

hatt,

You brought up an interesting idea.

While Vick is a decent QB at best, him and Peterson would be a hell of a combination. It would be tricky to defend against.

Hatt has an interesting idea twice a day. Vick would have been a good pick for them. Certainly no image problems to worry about.

Hatt has an interesting idea twice a day. Vick would have been a good pick for them. Certainly no image problems to worry about.

Better than having to worry about an old man who is now complete garbage. Can I have 25 million from your team too?

His name is Favre and he will have another good year, provided he is in fact healthy. I can't understand how anybody can believe anything other than he is one of the all-time great quarterbacks. The last couple of years with retirement, unretirement, retirement, unretirement, retirement, unretirement, he has become a real joke, there is no doubt about that. I have no idea what he has been thinking through all of the nonsense.

Chris

If he didn't talk about retirerment so much, maybe he would be a better QB, but he needs to STFU about it!

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hatt,

You brought up an interesting idea.

While Vick is a decent QB at best, him and Peterson would be a hell of a combination. It would be tricky to defend against.

No it wouldn't, because Vick CAN'T THROW THE BALL!

The Vikings already have Vick-lite in TavarASS Jackson why take on the baggage that comes with the real thing?

No it wouldn't, because Vick CAN'T THROW THE BALL!

The Vikings already have Vick-lite in TavarASS Jackson why take on the baggage that comes with the real thing?
Favre throwing the ball has it's downsides. I can't imagine he's going to start throwing fewer INTs with a new team, players, advanced age and need to now prove himself. I just don't see anything he brings except his past. It's just going to be a year, maybe two, lost that the Vikings could have been developing a QB for the future. Sure he may help them almost make the playoffs, yeah!

Farve threw 22 Ints last year. How can anyone be excited to see that come to their team?? Id be extremely upset if I were a Viking fan. I'm only showing the facts folks.

Farve threw 22 Ints last year. How can anyone be excited to see that come to their team?? Id be extremely upset if I were a Viking fan. I'm only showing the facts folks.

I'd be interested to see what frontrunner your backing chief. ;)

Favre throwing the ball has it's downsides. I can't imagine he's going to start throwing fewer INTs with a new team, players, advanced age and need to now prove himself. I just don't see anything he brings except his past. It's just going to be a year, maybe two, lost that the Vikings could have been developing a QB for the future. Sure he may help them almost make the playoffs, yeah!

Let's see, he's playing for a team that has the most feared running back in the NFL, and of the best defenses, that keeps it from having to come back from large deficits, forcing a QB to throw too often and take too many chances.

The Vikings have already wasted 3 years trying to develop TavarASS Jackson for the future, the team needs a QB for right now.

I'd be interested to see what frontrunner your backing chief. ;)

Frontrunner?? The only team ive ever routed for was the Patriots since I was a kid. You know the team that did not even make the playoffs last year. Wicccckeeed front runner. Now i'm not trying to put down the Vikings. I actually will route for the vikings when they play. I like a bunch of players on that team. I'm just stating facts here. Don't try to put me down just because I post facts about how horrible Brett Farve has been the past 10 seasons. He had that one good season with the pack recently and thats it. Throwing 22TDS and 22Ints is not a good season.

Friends :hithere:

Meh..he just did not want to do preseason games. Hopefully he gets booed while on the road. Why can't athletes retire gracefully? Look at strahan. He went out on top and made a nice adjustment to post NFL... He must have a great agent. Woe to tarvis... :crying:

Frontrunner?? The only team ive ever routed for was the Patriots since I was a kid. You know the team that did not even make the playoffs last year. Wicccckeeed front runner. Now i'm not trying to put down the Vikings. I actually will route for the vikings when they play. I like a bunch of players on that team. I'm just stating facts here. Don't try to put me down just because I post facts about how horrible Brett Farve has been the past 10 seasons. He had that one good season with the pack recently and thats it. Throwing 22TDS and 22Ints is not a good season.

Friends :hithere:

You have no idea what your talking about. Plain and simple.

In the last 10 yrs (your criteria)

Favre has thrown for 252TD's 192 INTS and 38,324 Yds

The teams he played for have gone 98 -62 in that time.

One losing season in that time period

4 division titles and a WildCard berth

He never missed a game in that span.

Before his injury last year his TD/INT breakdown was 20/13, he had completed 65% or more of his passes in 11 of the 12 games started , including 78% against your PATS and the Titans. The Titans were 10-0 when he beat them at Ten. The ints were high but the 22 TD's were 9th in the NFL and he was 11th in passing Yds.

Its obvious your still smarting from that SuperBowl loss to him and the Packers to see these things clearly.

You have no idea what your talking about. Plain and simple.

In the last 10 yrs (your criteria)

Favre has thrown for 252TD's 192 INTS and 38,324 Yds

The teams he played for have gone 98 -62 in that time.

One losing season in that time period

4 division titles and a WildCard berth

He never missed a game in that span.

Before his injury last year his TD/INT breakdown was 20/13, he had completed 65% or more of his passes in 11 of the 12 games started , including 78% against your PATS and the Titans. The Titans were 10-0 when he beat them at Ten. The ints were high but the 22 TD's were 9th in the NFL and he was 11th in passing Yds.

Its obvious your still smarting from that SuperBowl loss to him and the Packers to see these things clearly.

If you think your team is going to win a superbowl with Farve than you are an idiot. I guarantee the Vikings do nothing special this year. Have fun with the media fad, you have the paris hilton of football on your team. Nice 25 million dollar waste of space.

And way to use your head. I'm still sore about Farve beating the Pats?? Farve played awesome that year but ummmm the patriots have won 3 since. Stop watching football.

If you think your team is going to win a superbowl with Farve than you are an idiot..

I didn't say they would win the Superbowl, but he's an easy upgrade over what they have now. Sorry to see the only response you have to your silly opinion being shredded by facts is insults. I'd expect better, even from frontrunner. Since you obviously don't know enough about football to offer any factual rebuttal to what I posted, you can fade away to the obscurity of my ignore list.

Farve may be an old dog, yup, hung around too long. Should of mantled the cleats and slid into obscurity. But he didn't. :D

Me take is that the Vikings spent wisely. $12 million for a leader is chump change in the NFL. Another $13 million if he comes back next year. The only way he will come back is if they win the SB. :2cents

The one intangible is what he can teach the likes of Booty. Booty was damn successful at USC - rated as one of the top 5 QB's to come out of USC. To play under Farve's tutelage will be priceless for Booty, and hopefully will be the Viking QB to come.

To look at Farves TD to INT ratio from the past few years does not scare me. Not all of those int's were points for the opposing team but the TD's were TD's for his team. Now you add in an offensive line that the Vikes have, bruising tight ends (Shiancoe & Kleinsasser), great deep threats (Berrian & Rice), a nearly unstoppable run game, and Percy Harvin (fun to watch). You put all of this under a Brett Farve huddle - :yippee: (touchdown)

Now add in their defense and you have the making of a SB team. Wonder if we can pull Dungy out of retirement?

Favre is a good QB, that's it. If anyone thinks he's great, you're hanging on to the past. Personally, I wouldn't even consider him one of the greatest of all-time. He's over hyped. The man has one ring, so do a bunch of other QBs. Yes, he holds many records, but a good part of that comes from his lenghy career.

So, lets just focus on Favre present time.

The man is almost 40, he threw 22 interceptions last season, and has known shoulder issues. There is no way he is worth 12-13 million a year. They over paid based on the name. They'll make it up in merchandise and promotions, but the team will suffer. And for that kind of money, they could have picked up Cassel, Cutler, or made a trade.

They should have made a move for a franchise QB. Instead, they delayed the inevitable. What are they going to do in two years...or maybe even next year if he doesn't come back. And I'm not convinced he's that much better than Jackson to begin with.

Favre is a good QB, that's it. If anyone thinks he's great, you're hanging on to the past. Personally, I wouldn't even consider him one of the greatest of all-time. He's over hyped. The man has one ring, so do a bunch of other QBs. Yes, he holds many records, but a good part of that comes from his lenghy career.

So, lets just focus on Favre present time.

The man is almost 40, he threw 22 interceptions last season, and has known shoulder issues. There is no way he is worth 12-13 million a year. They over paid based on the name. They'll make it up in merchandise and promotions, but the team will suffer. And for that kind of money, they could have picked up Cassel, Cutler, or made a trade.

They should have made a move for a franchise QB. Instead, they delayed the inevitable. What are they going to do in two years...or maybe even next year if he doesn't come back. And I'm not convinced he's that much better than Jackson to begin with.

Thought me mentioned Booty in me prior post??? Farves leadership skills is, in me opinion, what the Vikings are after. But more importantly, the players themselves did a lot of the recruiting to get him - this speaks volumes in their confidence of Farve and lack of confidence in Jackson. As far as being 40, yeah he's getting up there. But he also has 8 home dome games, with a massive line in front of him, and one hell of a running corp behind him. Don't really see him having to throw the ball a lot, thus negating the INT debate.

And for that kind of money, they could have picked up Cassel, Cutler, or made a trade.

Cassel was franchised by the Pats so he would have cost more (14.65) + a 2nd round pick. All this is for a guy that started 1 season.

Cutler cost 2 #1's and a 3rd from the Bears, no lost draft picks signing Favre

They should have made a move for a franchise QB..

Who was available?

And I'm not convinced he's that much better than Jackson to begin with.

TavarASS is worse than Kordell Stewart ever was, you don't think he was better than Favre too do you?

Cassel was franchised by the Pats so he would have cost more (14.65) + a 2nd round pick. All this is for a guy that started 1 season.

Cutler cost 2 #1's and a 3rd from the Bears, no lost draft picks signing Favre



Who was available?



TavarASS is worse than Kordell Stewart ever was, you don't think he was better than Favre too do you?

Atleast you can build Cassell for the future. Not saying he will be a great QB but you never know. With Farve he is way past his prime. Horrible waste of money.


You will see how bad Brett Farve does this season. I bet he does not even make it through the whole season.

I'm no expert, but here is how I see this Favre signing...

Minnesota evaluates their team & realizes they have a great team RIGHT NOW...but then they look at the QB position & they realize this great team they have RIGHT NOW isn't going nowhere with Tavaris Jackson or Sage Rosenfels....So Minnesota realizes they just need a decent QB & they will be legit Super Bowl contenders...they don't need a great QB or super QB, just a guy who can manage the offense & throw the ball decent.
So Favre does not have a job RIGHT NOW & Minnesota needs a decent QB RIGHT NOW....ha...perfect fit, so they sign Favre to have a shot at the Super Bowl while they have a solid team RIGHT NOW.

Minnesota does not need Favre to be a saviour, they just need a QB who can lead a team & while Favre may be worn out a bit, he can still lead a team & is a HUGE upgrade from what they had.

I am not a Favre or Minnesota fan. But if you cannot see that Minnesota is loaded with talent you are blind. So now that they have an avg. QB in Favre they are contenders wether people like it or not.

This is the best (Vikings) news that I've heard in quite a while! :2cents

Frankly, as much as I love(d) Farve, I am as tired of this on again/off-again stuff as anyone else. I think that he really HURT his rep for all of this indecision. But having said that, and as a documented Vikings fan from WAY back, I would LOVE to see them kick ass!!! ...and I would LOVE to see Brett be sucessful.

I hope he is and they are, but man, I am certainly used to having my hopes smacked down, so i guess we'll see what happens... :haha:

Hopefully, we won't have the following scenario:

Vikings=Charlie Brown , Farve=Lucy :lol:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4409512 Red the whole thing.

Fran Tarkenton "I think he has been a great flamboyant quarterback, but he has made more stupid plays than any great quarterback that I've ever seen. Look at his final game in a Packers uniform. He blew that game [NFC championship] against the Giants"


I'm just sayin

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4409512 Red the whole thing.

Fran Tarkenton "I think he has been a great flamboyant quarterback, but he has made more stupid plays than any great quarterback that I've ever seen. Look at his final game in a Packers uniform. He blew that game [NFC championship] against the Giants"


I'm just sayin

Fran is pissed because Brett blew his records away. :D And has a SB ring.

Fran is pissed because Brett blew his records away. :D And has a SB ring.

hahaha probably

Fran was fun to watch growing up, certainly better than Joe Kapp. In reality, Fran and Brett were pretty much the same. Old Tark (as we called him) was a gunslinger, took a lot of risks, played on the frozen turf, threw a lot of interceptions, but did seem to win. And was a competitor. In true form to Brett Favre and his legacy - he should have retired a GB Packer. But some of these guys love the game so much (Montana-Cheifs) they just cant stop. Or maybe, after years of getting hit in the head they develop the football form of being punch drunk. :D lets call it the Favre Syndrome.

Go Vikes!:yippee:

I think Fran should just enjoy his retirement and lay low on this one. For someone who claims to not care about this topic, he's sure spewing a lot of remarks. If this move gives the Vikings a legit shot at the SB...then I'm on board.

Football isn't the game it was when Fran played. There are very few dynasty teams that we'll see from here on out. Minnesota hasn't been to a SB in a long while...it's time to change that.

Thought me mentioned Booty in me prior post??? Farves leadership skills is, in me opinion, what the Vikings are after.

My post wasn't in response to yours. I hadn't seen your post yet (I was working while replying). That said, there's a bunch of cheaper ways to install "leadership." Furthermore, there's no guarantee he'll be a leader. Not everyone on the team will be thrilled to have. He flip flops, isn't there for training camp, and I'm sure many probably have "alliances" to Jackson. Not to mention, he may only be with them for one year...who wants to follow someone that could bail the next year.

Who was available?

I meant either by trade or going after a quality rookie that could be the franchise QB.

TavarASS is worse than Kordell Stewart ever was, you don't think he was better than Favre too do you?

The little I watched of Stewart, I don't remember. But lets get the stats for Jackson and Favre last season...

TDs... Jackson 9 ... Favre 22
INT... Jackson 2 ... Favre 22
Sacked... Jackson 14 ... Favre 30
Comp.... Jackson 59.1% ... Favre 65.7%

Favre had more yards (2,416 more), but Jackson had a better average... Jackson 7.1 and Farve 6.7. Also, keep in mind, Jackson only played 9 games and started in 5.

The QB rating... Jackson 95.4 and Favre 81.

Now, with all that said, there are various things that can't be factored by numbers. However, comparing these stats, how does anyone see Favre as a significant improvement? Especially, worthy of 25-26 million... Add in the shoulder and age and it seems like a wash at best. The Vikings were in the playoffs last year, not the Jets.

I don't know. If Vikings fans are happy, more power to them. Besides, I'm a bit spoiled in a city with a record breaking 6-time champion...2 and four years...and you know, the Penguins are petty good. :lol: Haha. I kid. :D But I wonder if the love for Farve stems more from the hate of Jackson and the rivalry with the Packers.

Cassel was franchised by the Pats so he would have cost more (14.65) + a 2nd round pick. All this is for a guy that started 1 season.


Pats were 11-5, that ain't bad for some guy that "started 1 season," no matter what team it is. The Vikings won their division last year; Favre has to get them to the SB or else they just wasted time and money getting a QB they like for the long haul. It's going to be tough to get through the NFC with an old man who's not really sure he wants to suit up every time Sunday come around.

I see there is going to be GB@MIN Monday night game Oct 5. If GB comes in and beats MIN it's going to be interesting to see what Favre does.

The little I watched of Stewart, I don't remember. But lets get the stats for Jackson and Favre last season...

TDs... Jackson 9 ... Favre 22
INT... Jackson 2 ... Favre 22
Sacked... Jackson 14 ... Favre 30
Comp.... Jackson 59.1% ... Favre 65.7%

Favre had more yards (2,416 more), but Jackson had a better average... Jackson 7.1 and Farve 6.7. Also, keep in mind, Jackson only played 9 games and started in 5.

The QB rating... Jackson 95.4 and Favre 81.

Now, with all that said, there are various things that can't be factored by numbers. However, comparing these stats, how does anyone see Favre as a significant improvement? Especially, worthy of 25-26 million... Add in the shoulder and age and it seems like a wash at best. The Vikings were in the playoffs last year, not the Jets.

I don't know. If Vikings fans are happy, more power to them. Besides, I'm a bit spoiled in a city with a record breaking 6-time champion...2 and four years...and you know, the Penguins are petty good. :lol: Haha. I kid. :D But I wonder if the love for Farve stems more from the hate of Jackson and the rivalry with the Packers.[/font]

Dude, do you see my forum name?

Did you watch the playoff game against the Eagles?

I've spent 3 years watching this ass hatt Jackson suck. I don't need see him waste another great season by AD because he doesn't have the talent, nor the brains to take advantage of seeing 8 or 9 men at the line of scrimmage. Jacksons QB rating was higher than Favres last yr. because he got yanked for a 38 yr old journeyman who then led the team to 8 wins until he got hurt. TavarASS's best game of his career wasn't even as impressive as Favres best game last yr. Does anyone who watches this kid play think he could beat the PATS and Titans, on the road, back to back weeks, while completeing 78% of his passes for those 2 games like Favre did last season? Let TJ start a whole season, he's been hurt or benched the last 2 yrs and missed 14 games. Favres played all 32 games the last 2 yrs injured or not. He passed for 7900 yds and 50 td's the last 2 seasons. TJackASS wouldn't be able to do that in 4.

If Favre doesn't win us a Superbowl this yr he will at least have saved us from the plague that is TavarASS JackOFF.

As much of a pain in the ass that Favre is in the pre-season, isn't he pretty consistent in regular? As in, hasn't missed a game? If they feel that all the pieces are there NOW, how is this a bad move?
(from LG's post)
TDs... Jackson 9 ... Favre 22
INT... Jackson 2 ... Favre 22
Sacked... Jackson 14 ... Favre 30
Comp.... Jackson 59.1% ... Favre 65.7%
That even with his inefficiencies he is above average and if he would manage a game and be less impulsive/looking for the big play, then how are they not a threat?
AND a little flame bait; the ONLY SB team more BORING than the PATS are the STEELERS. Although, to be honest, this is the first season in some time that I don't have a gut team to root for. J-E-T-S feel hopeless, Chargers are past their prime, and my old hometown Seahawks won't sack their own dead weight QB. Oh what underdog shall I root for!!!

Pats were 11-5, that ain't bad for some guy that "started 1 season," no matter what team it is.

Think he'll duplicate that feat at KC without Moss and Welker. I'll take all the action I can get on that bet.

The Vikings won their division last year; Favre has to get them to the SB or else they just wasted time and money getting a QB they like for the long haul.

Your right about this, they hope to win it all with this move. Favre gives them a chance TJackASS doesn't. And again they've already wasted 3 yrs on TJ, so they'd be looking for their future QB after this season anyway.


It's going to be tough to get through the NFC with an old man who's not really sure he wants to suit up every time Sunday come around.


Is that why he still played every game for the Jets last yr, even after getting injured?

Fran was fun to watch growing up, certainly better than Joe Kapp.

Hey! I LIKED Joe Kapp!!!

Ok... So I admit that I can't even remember WHY I like Joe Kapp, but still... :lol:

Probably was the first Viking QB I can recall as a kid~ :what:

Liked Fran too though... Remember all those wild scrambles trying to find someone open?!?!? :D Man, if all those yards had only been North-South yards!! :lol:

In reality, Fran and Brett were pretty much the same. Old Tark (as we called him) was a gunslinger, took a lot of risks, played on the frozen turf, threw a lot of interceptions, but did seem to win. And was a competitor. In true form to Brett Favre and his legacy - he should have retired a GB Packer. But some of these guys love the game so much (Montana-Cheifs) they just cant stop. Or maybe, after years of getting hit in the head they develop the football form of being punch drunk. :D lets call it the Favre Syndrome.

Go Vikes!:yippee:

Agree w/these statements too... IMO, Farve really DID hurt his rep BIGTIME by flip-floping around like he has. I heard a bit of a sound byte of him saying that "as far as my legacy goes, well, it's MINE, and no-one else's...".

Well, sorry to tell you Brett, but that is pure BS!! :error

He may THINK that he is the only one that matters, but the reality is, that if he thinks that way, then he will be merely a legend in his own mind. I'm sure he'll still make the HOF, and deservedly so, but he's really come down SEVERAL notches in MY book because of all this. The whole thing has been handled poorly at best. :2cents

I can't wait to bump this mid season.

I can't wait to bump this mid season.

I'm curious to see how it plays out. Jackson looked great against the Chiefs...yes, I know it's the preseason, just saying.

You know if Roethlisberger is hurt (which I highly doubt), Jackson would be a decent fit for the Steelers...he's able to scramble and still hit on the go (at least from what little I've seen).

jackson looked great against the Cheifs. And once Booty got in the groove, his aim was dead on. Going to be interesting to see who gets cut. Looks like Sage might be put out to pasture??????

Looks like Sage might be put out to pasture??????

Not with his contract. Tjack gets traded or Booty gets cut.

Not with his contract. Tjack gets traded or Booty gets cut.

This might be a tad tough for the Vikes. Jackson really looked good against the Chiefs. Although me thinks Booty will make a good QB, some might think he's physically limited for the NFL. Jackson's biggest downfall, especially last season, was the fact that he got slobberknockered so many times. Gotta throw the ball. Me gut feeling is that the Vikes are going to see if they can trade off Rosenfels.

I don't know if any of you have seen this, the ending is the best part...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VfHnCwLp14&NR=1

I don't know if any of you have seen this, the ending is the best part...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VfHnCwLp14&NR=1

Hitler a Bares fan. Oh the humanity.:D

What did you think of Farve's debut last night vs the Texans?? :what:

I thought he did pretty well, except for that low block he threw~ :rolleyes:

I'm sure he didn't mean to throw it low, but damn, I would think a QB, and ESPECIALLY a QB of his age would avoid that @ all costs! Hope nobody's "gunning" for him now~

What really surprised me from this game was Percy Harvin. I thought he looked really good. Wish I didn't skip on him in a few drafts ive had.

Vikes are still knocking off some rust, but looked okay for a pre-season game. Once Harvin gets worked into a pro mindset, he will be exciting to watch. He was lightning at Florida and a whole lotta fun to watch. The one thing me noticed about the game was that everybody was smiling, joking, and just ready to play some ball. First play from scrimmage,,,,75 yard blazer. :hithere:

been a Viking fan for 45+ years. This me first time that me has ever seen them so relaxed and just having fun playing ball. Smacking dallas right now,,,,and having fun.

Vikes are still knocking off some rust, but looked okay for a pre-season game. Once Harvin gets worked into a pro mindset, he will be exciting to watch. He was lightning at Florida and a whole lotta fun to watch. The one thing me noticed about the game was that everybody was smiling, joking, and just ready to play some ball. First play from scrimmage,,,,75 yard blazer. :hithere:

I had Percy harvin last year on my College fantasy team & he was an absolute beast. He was a great WR but was also very effective at running the ball as he had more rushing TD's than recieving TD's I believe.
I know the NFL is a different game but I think Harvin will adapt well & be as effective as Kordell Stewart was for the Steelers when he was just "Slash". Only thing was Kordell was able to play QB during his slash days & I can't remember Percy ever playing QB.

Anyways the guy will have a very productive career & first year imo.

Damn,,they cut Booty. and fined farve. :D Certainly wished they had cut thier loss and let ronsenfelts go,,,but Booty's interception toss in the 4th against little dallas must have been the decider.

and fined farve. :D .

I just saw that block. Hopefully someone will lay his old ass out with a block on one of the many INT returns he'll be tossing up shortly.

I just saw that block. Hopefully someone will lay his old ass out with a block on one of the many INT returns he'll be tossing up shortly.

Certainly they will be gunning for him. but he's been gunned at before and survived all these years.

Certainly wished they had cut thier loss and let ronsenfelts go.

Cutting there loss would mean giving up on the 3 yr joke project of turning TJackASS into a starting pro QB, not cutting Sage.

Cutting there loss would mean giving up on the 3 yr joke project of turning TJackASS into a starting pro QB, not cutting Sage.

T Jacks performance has been excellent this pre-season. Me thinks bringing Favre aboard pressed him to take his game to the next level. This is only TJacks 4th year,,,and he is still learning. His athletisicm far surpasses Sage and Farve. Don't judge him to harshly,,,,,his last couple of seasons he was pretty green,,,and a lot was expected of him. Now that the pressure has been slightly reduced, me thinks he will make an excellent back up to Brett.

T Jacks performance has been excellent this pre-season. Me thinks bringing Favre aboard pressed him to take his game to the next level. This is only TJacks 4th year,,,and he is still learning. His athletisicm far surpasses Sage and Farve. Don't judge him to harshly,,,,,his last couple of seasons he was pretty green,,,and a lot was expected of him. Now that the pressure has been slightly reduced, me thinks he will make an excellent back up to Brett.


He might make an excellent back up, but I'd rather it be for another team so he never has a chance to start for, and ruin, another Vikings season.

The point could be made that he's more athletic than either QB that played tonight, but he'll never make the plays they did. He's shit no matter how you stack it.

He might make an excellent back up, but I'd rather it be for another team so he never has a chance to start for, and ruin, another Vikings season.

The point could be made that he's more athletic than either QB that played tonight, but he'll never make the plays they did. He's shit no matter how you stack it.

As a 4 year vs. a 9 year veteran, their numbers are pretty even. Granted TJ has suffered some injuries in the past couple of years, just what has Rosenfelts done to be "outstanding"?

Farve - 1 touchdown,,,,0 interceptions.

How many touchdowns for Sanchez today? :D And yes I realize there was something way wrong with the Texans defense today, and their offense, heck their entire team. It was funny though several times during the game they compared sanchez' first NFL game to Favres first game with the Jets. Like there's any comparison between the two players. I wish Favre a good season.

As a 4 year vs. a 9 year veteran, their numbers are pretty even. Granted TJ has suffered some injuries in the past couple of years, just what has Rosenfelts done to be "outstanding"?



Not be TJackass.

good job

Farve had another nice game today. Detroit doesn't count as real competition but so far he has done all that has been asked of him. A real test is can he win two of the next three, if he can, Minnesota is off and running.

Chris

Farve has the highest pass completion percentage in the league and hasn't thrown an interception yet.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/stats/bycategory?cat=Passing&sort=49

Chris

Of course he has a high completion %. He's at the bottom end of the list in attempts and is only throwing for 5 1/2 yards at a time. Other than the QB rating, completion %, TD and INT he's at the bottom end of every stat. Yeah, I guess he's been efficient at the gameplan but Marino could probably come back and throw 5 yd passes and take sacks.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/quarterbackRating

To get past better teams he's going to have to do a lot more.

Of course he has a high completion %. He's at the bottom end of the list in attempts and is only throwing for 5 1/2 yards at a time. Other than the QB rating, completion %, TD and INT he's at the bottom end of every stat. Yeah, I guess he's been efficient at the gameplan but Marino could probably come back and throw 5 yd passes and take sacks.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/quarterbackRating

To get past better teams he's going to have to do a lot more.

But,,,if throwing 5 1/2 yards at a time is enough to win,,,,:D ,,,,a win is a win. Nice one today. BTW,,,his winning TD pass was a bit more than 5 1/2 yards. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D,,,more like 30.

But,,,if throwing 5 1/2 yards at a time is enough to win,,,,:D ,,,,a win is a win. Nice one today. BTW,,,his winning TD pass was a bit more than 5 1/2 yards. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D,,,more like 30.

That pass broke my heart. Really thought my niners had that game.

That pass broke my heart. Really thought my niners had that game.

Don't fret to much,,,the Niners have a game team, with a tough defense.

But,,,if throwing 5 1/2 yards at a time is enough to win,,,,:D ,,,,a win is a win. Nice one today. BTW,,,his winning TD pass was a bit more than 5 1/2 yards. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D,,,more like 30.

That was indeed a heck of a pass, and a great catch to boot. I only watched the last few minutes because my area was subjected to the Football Giants playing a practice squad of some sort. I said he was going to have to do more if they were going to beat better teams. That 77% completion and 0 INT is history that Chris was impressed with.:D

My boy from Florida ain't doing so bad.

Great pass, great game!! :yippee:

Didn't it remind you just a little of Montana's pass way back when?!?

In some ways yes, but the 49er TE Clark didn't have to do a ballet move to stay in-bounds. :)

...BTW,,,his winning TD pass was a bit more than 5 1/2 yards. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D,,,more like 30.Uh, more like 50 yards. :D

In some ways yes, but the 49er TE Clark didn't have to do a ballet move to stay in-bounds. :)

Best catch I've seen so far this season I think... :bowdown:

Oh boy, here we go again.:lol:

Say what you will, Farve is off to a great start. That was a great pass and a terrific catch. Farve has always been cool and confident in situations like that. A 300 yard passing game when Minnesota needed it, I am certainly impressed with what he has done so far.

Chris

3rd Qtr.,,,,,favre is magnificent!!!!! 148 & change QB rating going into the 4th.

Farve is looking awesome. Can't believe I said that haha

Packer toss a challenge flag,,,results in a safety for me Vikes,,,,,,:thumbsup::yippee::yippee::yippee::hith ere:

Packers O line was terrible and Rodgers didn't help to much holding on to the ball like they were on a date.

offensive line banged all to hell,,,but the defense did a tremendous job stopping AP.

A new purple people eaters?

A new purple people eaters?
Purple Packer Eaters,without question, we'll have to see the rest of the way, but they do look like the team to beat in the NFC

Packers O line was terrible and Rodgers didn't help to much holding on to the ball like they were on a date.
I think Rodgers did the best he could with the O line completely depleted, and here I thought my beloved Birds had a make shift O line The Pack are in dire straits at this point, good thing they have a decent Defense or I fear they will truly falter from here on out.

offensive line banged all to hell,,,but the defense did a tremendous job stopping AP.
That they did, at the expense of letting Farve have a field day. You can't let Farve have 5 seconds to sit back and look at every play develop. One time he was leaning on a post smoking a cigarette wanting for someone to get open.:what:

As for the O line, you've just got to step up. You're in the NFL. If you can't even stay on the field with other guys, maybe you should get another job.

2-3 really bad plays killed em as well. Really, 4th and goal and the ball hits you in the hands while you're standing in the end zone, and you drop it, come on.

...As for the O line, you've just got to step up. You're in the NFL. If you can't even stay on the field with other guys, maybe you should get another job...I wonder if there are any offensive linemen in the league that can stay in step with Jared Allen. Not since Reggie White or Bruce Smith, have I seen a defender with such a motor.

I wonder if there are any offensive linemen in the league that can stay in step with Jared Allen. Not since Reggie White or Bruce Smith, have I seen a defender with such a motor.
That's why you beat the hell out of him in the first half with some extra help, or something. He's never going to get tired running 5 yards without being touched, sacking QB, repeat.

Ole Favre sure took it to the Packers. Enough said there!

Favre was nearly perfect in my opinion. He threw some very difficult passes perfectly and I don't know how anyone could assess his performance any differently. I am impressed by what he has done since deciding to unretire again, he is better than I thought possible.

Chris

Favre was nearly perfect in my opinion. He threw some very difficult passes perfectly and I don't know how anyone could assess his performance any differently. I am impressed by what he has done since deciding to unretire again, he is better than I thought possible.

Chris

Agreed...

That's why you beat the hell out of him in the first half with some extra help, or something. He's never going to get tired running 5 yards without being touched, sacking QB, repeat. Extra help?...the entire DL of the Vikings is stout...you throw extra help towards Allen and those two Williams' will just take over and KO the QB. :)

Favre was nearly perfect in my opinion. He threw some very difficult passes perfectly and I don't know how anyone could assess his performance any differently. I am impressed by what he has done since deciding to unretire again, he is better than I thought possible.

Chris

Yes... I agree also!! :banana:

Like the Purple People Eaters referance too!! :yippee:

Sure does bring back childhood memories! I hope they keep it up!!

Yes... I agree also!! :banana:

Like the Purple People Eaters referance too!! :yippee:

Sure does bring back childhood memories! I hope they keep it up!!


They will. :D

Vikes,,,5-0,,,Twins on the verge of beating the skaynkees tonight.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oooops,,,spoke to soon.....:crying::crying::crying::crying:

As long as the Vikes are 5-0...I don't really care what happens to the Twins...:)

This thread has been going on long enough with Favre's name misspelled. Can a mod correct it? It causes me to want to misspell it when I post and although I know better, I still do it. It is spelled the way it sounds right now.

Chris

This thread has been going on long enough with Favre's name misspelled. Can a mod correct it? It causes me to want to misspell it when I post and although I know better, I still do it. It is spelled the way it sounds right now.

Chris

heh,,,must have been a bit lit when me posted. frickin french can't even get a name right. :D

This thread has been going on long enough with Favre's name misspelled. Can a mod correct it? It causes me to want to misspell it when I post and although I know better, I still do it. It is spelled the way it sounds right now.

Chris

I didn't even notice. My apologies. Lately, when I'm on a forum, I'm doing something else (work, study, etc.), so my attention isn't focused. Now, that's going to bug me.
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One of the things I pride myself on, is being able to admit when I'm wrong. That said, wow. I haven't watched a Vikings game (only seen clips), but Favre has seemed to given them a new energy.

I'm not going to do a 180 just yet, because I want to see how Favre plays down the road, but amazing start so far.

This thread has been going on long enough with Favre's name misspelled. Can a mod correct it? It causes me to want to misspell it when I post and although I know better, I still do it. It is spelled the way it sounds right now.

Chris

Done. Favre deserves to have his name spelled right. :bowdown:

No denying how good Farve has been so far. Vikings look good. I was a little worried AP might have been hurt today since he was my number 1 this year. Good thing he is fine.

I didn't even notice. My apologies. Lately, when I'm on a forum, I'm doing something else (work, study, etc.), so my attention isn't focused. Now, that's going to bug me.
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One of the things I pride myself on, is being able to admit when I'm wrong. That said, wow. I haven't watched a Vikings game (only seen clips), but Favre has seemed to given them a new energy.

I'm not going to do a 180 just yet, because I want to see how Favre plays down the road, but amazing start so far.

What a game he had yesterday, I watched much of it. He threw a number of difficult passes perfectly again, three touchdowns and let Peterson carry the load when needed. The Minnesota defense faltered and Flacco played great in the 4th quarter meaning Minnesota sure could have lost the game but they got away with another win.

Minnesota looks really smart for picking up Favre now but that doesn't change the silly circus around his retiring and unretiring so many times during the last couple offseasons. I don't know how anybody could have watched Favre play yesterday and be unimpressed with his play and team leadership.

Chris

Favre got absolutely pwned by Woodley. lulz.

Woudn't say owned. More like Viking mistakes that gave the game to Pittsburgh. Had a touchdown reversed in the 3rd that changed the course of the game. All in all,,the Vikes defense looked sharp,,offense hit the long ball, and up until the turnover in the 3rd,,the Vikes were on their way to beat the defending champions. Good job Pittsburgh.

Hey Brett,

How's that winning streak ending mouthful of turf taste?

Hey Brett,

How's that winning streak ending mouthful of turf taste?

For a 40 year old man,,,,he did damn good. Funny how this be your 1st post in this thread, yet you failed to congratulate him on the prior 6 wins???

For a 40 year old man,,,,he did damn good. Funny how this be your 1st post in this thread, yet you failed to congratulate him on the prior 6 wins???

Its DoctorCad.... Don't listen to him. He is clueless when it comes to anything sports related.

For a 40 year old man,,,,he did damn good. Funny how this be your 1st post in this thread, yet you failed to congratulate him on the prior 6 wins???

Maybe he wasn't so excited seeing Minn's victim list so far. ;)

Browns 1-6
Detroit 1-5
San Fran 3-3
Green Bay 4-2
St. Louis 0-7
Ravins 3-3
Pitt 5-2

So far it appears they can beat the scrubs and so so teams and split against winning teams. Yea!

Baltimore is the only win against a team that made it to the playoffs last year. I'm going to have to see a little more before ordering Brett's ring.

Its DoctorCad.... Don't listen to him. He is clueless when it comes to anything sports related.

Go fuck yourself

Now that that is out of the way, yes, Brett does a great job of QB'ing.

I have zero interest in him due to the fact that he plays in the opposite conference. I also have only a little bit of knowledge of his career because of that same fact.

Bretts career will probably go down as one of the best in the sport. The guy's tough and has the drive in him that would have made him a great Steeler. Most of the better QB's have that ingrained in them.

His stats, although not earth-shattering like a Brady or Manning, have been near the top of the league for many years. He would never make a good fantasy football QB, though.

Good thing fantasy football stats do not win in the NFL, because if the game is on the line, and there are only a few clicks left, there aren't too many other QB's I rather have directing my team that Brett.

My original post is just a bit of post-victory smack, no big deal. Gotta be tough in the NFL fanbase.

Woudn't say owned. More like Viking mistakes that gave the game to Pittsburgh. Had a touchdown reversed in the 3rd that changed the course of the game. All in all,,the Vikes defense looked sharp,,offense hit the long ball, and up until the turnover in the 3rd,,the Vikes were on their way to beat the defending champions. Good job Pittsburgh.

Can't believe the way the Vikes snatched defeat from the jaws of victory yesterday!! :eek:

Seriously... What the hell was that anyway...??? Imaculate reception 2.0?!?!?!? :banghead: :banghead:

Go fuck yourself

:D hah

Four touchdown passes, no interceptions and another win, 7-1, pretty amazing year so far for the old quarterback.

Chris

And hardly touched today. What the hell was GB thinking,,,oh that's right, they concentrated on Adrian,,,and forgot about Percy. :thumbsup:

Vikings beat another so so team.:banana: Someone get out the champagne. :lol:

Vikings beat another so so team.:banana: Someone get out the champagne. :lol:

4 road wins and one loss to the SB champions (on the road) for a combined 7-1 record,,,yes let's do get out the bottle!!! You know me,,,always ready for a bit of imbibement!!!! :D

4 road wins and one loss to the SB champions (on the road) for a combined 7-1 record,,,yes let's do get out the bottle!!! You know me,,,always ready for a bit of imbibement!!!! :D

If only they could play Detroit and Greenbay in the playoffs. Warning. If I have to root for Dallas, I will.:o

If only they could play Detroit and Greenbay in the playoffs. Warning. If I have to root for Dallas, I will.:o

No hatt, say it isn't so. Anybody but Dallas.

No hatt, say it isn't so. Anybody but Dallas.
Hopefully it won't come to such drastic measures. We still have NYG, NO, ATL, Arizona, and Philly.

Vikings beat another so so team.:banana: Someone get out the champagne. :lol:

I believe their record indicates the Vikings have been the best team in the NFC so far this year.

Chris

I wouldn't go that far when you have an undefeated New Orleans team that has beaten some good teams...by a lot. :rolleyes: ...and I'm a Viking fan.

I believe their record indicates the Vikings have been the best team in the NFC so far this year.

Chris
They've beaten ONE team that went to the postseason last year.:what:

New Orleans has beaten THREE and play another one tonight.

They had a chance to show how good they really were against the SB champs and fell short.

Oh yeah, 6-0 > 7-1.;)

You remember how sucky New England's 18-1 record was v NY's record.:eyecrazy

Lets look at the wins:

New Orleans:

Detroit 1-6
Philly 5-2 Leads Division
Buffalo 3-5
NYJ 4-4
NYG 5-3
MIA 3-4
Combined record 21-24

Minn:

Cleveland 1-7
Detroit 1-6
San Fran 3-4
GB 4-3
St Louis 1-7
Bal. 4-3
GB 4-3
Combined record 18-33

So I really have no idea how anyone could call Minn the best NFC team.

Tonight will tell us a lot about New Orleans. Their first in-division game against an Atlanta team that can be very good at times. Of course it's in NO so we have to give them home field advantage, speaking of which, NO has only had 3 road games. Minnesota has had 5 road games with the one loss delivered in Pittsburgh. So for those of you that wish to root for Dallas,,,by all means do (:lol:),,,,was that a snicker (:lol:),,,oops it slipped again!!

Tonight will tell us a lot about New Orleans. Their first in-division game against an Atlanta team that can be very good at times. Of course it's in NO so we have to give them home field advantage, speaking of which, NO has only had 3 road games. Minnesota has had 5 road games with the one loss delivered in Pittsburgh. So for those of you that wish to root for Dallas,,,by all means do (:lol:),,,,was that a snicker (:lol:),,,oops it slipped again!!

Come on now. @ Cleveland, @ Detroit, and @ St. Louis totals like half a road game, tops. So NO still has had more road games.:D

Come on now. @ Cleveland, @ Detroit, and @ St. Louis totals like half a road game, tops. So NO still has had more road games.:D

'twas worth a try. :D and for what it's worth,,,,Atlanta's defense out plays NO offense tonight. Brees is getting to old.

They've beaten ONE team that went to the postseason last year.:what:

New Orleans has beaten THREE and play another one tonight.

They had a chance to show how good they really were against the SB champs and fell short.

Oh yeah, 6-0 > 7-1.;)

You remember how sucky New England's 18-1 record was v NY's record.:eyecrazy

Lets look at the wins:

New Orleans:

Detroit 1-6
Philly 5-2 Leads Division
Buffalo 3-5
NYJ 4-4
NYG 5-3
MIA 3-4
Combined record 21-24

Minn:

Cleveland 1-7
Detroit 1-6
San Fran 3-4
GB 4-3
St Louis 1-7
Bal. 4-3
GB 4-3
Combined record 18-33

So I really have no idea how anyone could call Minn the best NFC team.

That's what ive been sayin. Not saying the Vikings are bad, the Vikings are a very good team but the Saints are better.

Gotta admit,,,Brees looked sharp last night. The Falcons put up a good fight but Brees was tossing some screamers.

That's what ive been sayin. Not saying the Vikings are bad, the Vikings are a very good team but the Saints are better.

I sure don't see it. NO was lucky to beat a terrible team Sunday. NO has played more of last year's playoff teams and that means something?

Brett Favre is the top rated quarterback in the league now and has the best touchdown to interception ratio.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/quarterbackRating/year/2009/seasontype/2

Chris

I knew someone would ring in this week with Minn's superiority. That big win over the Lions must have did it. It looks like some tougher games ahead so you guys better get it out now. I'm predicting the Vikings go 4-3 the rest of the way. Let's see how far off I am.:D

I knew someone would ring in this week with Minn's superiority. That big win over the Lions must have did it. It looks like some tougher games ahead so you guys better get it out now. I'm predicting the Vikings go 4-3 the rest of the way. Let's see how far off I am.:D

This week?!?

Nobody "new" on this thread... Same group liking the Vikes & Favre that liked them when this thread started back in August... So far, it's looking like Favre has worked out pretty well for them I'd say. Sure is performing better than Vick has when he's had the ball~ :2cents

I knew someone would ring in this week with Minn's superiority. That big win over the Lions must have did it. It looks like some tougher games ahead so you guys better get it out now. I'm predicting the Vikings go 4-3 the rest of the way. Let's see how far off I am.:D

C'mon hatt,,,admit it,,,,Favre is king!!!!;)

C'mon hatt,,,admit it,,,,Favre is king!!!!;)
I'll admit it if he gets a ring.:D

I'll admit it if he gets a ring.:D

Did he lose his '97 ring or something? :confused: I did read that Robert Horry was missing his, too.

Did he lose his '97 ring or something? :confused: I did read that Robert Horry was missing his, too.

In 2010.;)

In 2010.;)

If he gets one for the Vikings, he'll be a God, not just a King. ;)

If he gets one for the Vikings, he'll be a God, not just a King. ;)

I'm not going that far LOL. You take Mr. Stud Peterson out of the lineup and Minn might be a .500 team. I'll still give Brett some credit if he can get though the playoffs. Brett has always been stellar in the regular season, playoffs, not so much. Oh yeah, that one time.:yippee:

I'm not going that far LOL. You take Mr. Stud Peterson out of the lineup and Minn might be a .500 team. I'll still give Brett some credit if he can get though the playoffs. Brett has always been stellar in the regular season, playoffs, not so much. Oh yeah, that one time.:yippee:

Well considering the Vikes weren't a Super Bowl contender and have never won a Super Bowl, I wouldn't be the only one saying that if it came to pass. :D

I haven't noticed an unusual drop off in the playoffs though. But you have to take into account that QBs probably don't put up as good numbers in the playoffs since the defenses they face are obviously better, generally speaking.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=11020

According to that link, Favre's playoff QB ranking is only 0.7 lower in the playoffs, which is negligible.

The Vikes have everything in place to win the SB - except the defensive secondary. If they don't improve in the back,,,QB's like Brady and Manning will tear them up. Unless wild man Allen has a good day. He gives QB's the brown stripe. :D

He was 22/25 today, 4 touchdowns and no interceptions. I know that Peterson is a great back and this gives him exactly what he needs, opponents that have to make sure to stop the run but his year has been nothing short of amazing so far.

Chris

just gotta keep the old fart healthy,,,,,,,,