Hello everyone, I love this forum, and this is my first post. I recently had Dish installed and I couldnt have the HD DVR 942 installed because it counted as two tuners. I already have regular recievers installed in three other rooms, so it would count as a fifth reciever. Does anyone know how I can get around this, or any cheap solutions to this matter? I have now grown used to DVR's and I must have it on my HD reciever now! ;) :D
Thanks!
RSawdey
07-14-2005, 10:26 AM
You'll need a more complex multiswitch with additional output lines.
jergenf
07-14-2005, 02:53 PM
It's not that the 942 has two tuners (because so does the 921) it's because it has dual user mode. This means that you can divide the tuners into two receivers. If you connect a phone line to the unit it then counts as one receiver and you'll avoid the $5 monthly charge. This also applies to the 322, 522 and 625.
PS: You may be able to deactivate one off your other receivers (saving money) if you choose to use the 942 in dual user mode.
dm567
08-10-2005, 04:35 PM
I still don't understand the difference between the 921 and the 942.
They are both HD receivers and DVR's, right?
How does the 942 controll two TV's if they are in different rooms? How does the Cabling work? Do you have to run a cable directly from the 942 to the tv in the other room? What if its far away and the remote doesn't work? Do you run around the house each time you want to change channels?
This is getting more confusing all the time.
Dom
dm567
08-10-2005, 04:39 PM
Also, If you use the 942 to control two tv's in different rooms do you have to pay the extra $5.00 for the DVR twice?
And, Can one of the tv's be high def and the other not? if so does it matter if the 942 is located with the high def tv or with the non hi def tv?
Dom
oneNonly
08-10-2005, 05:25 PM
Also, If you use the 942 to control two tv's in different rooms do you have to pay the extra $5.00 for the DVR twice?
And, Can one of the tv's be high def and the other not? if so does it matter if the 942 is located with the high def tv or with the non hi def tv?
Dom
You don't have to pay the extra fee as long as you have a phone line connected, only one tuner is high def, the other is SD, the 942 needs to be in the room with the HDTV, because your not likely yo find DVI or Component cables long enough to go from room to room, they connect to the second TV via a coax. I have the 942 and have not had a problem, but I do notice that from time to time when both tuners are on, the HD quality is not as good, but only sometimes. I wouldn't trade my 942 for any other receiver
dm567
08-10-2005, 05:37 PM
Its getting clearer but not clear yet.
So you send a coaxial cable to the second room and its non HD and
How far does your remote work when your in the second room?
Can you use the DVR function in the second room?
Does it need only one coaxial to the satelite dish?
If you hood it up to the phone line and two tv's there is still only one $5.00 fee?
Why do they care if its hooked up or not?
Sorry for all the questions but I'm in learning phase.
Thanks,
oneNonly
08-10-2005, 11:53 PM
Its getting clearer but not clear yet.
So you send a coaxial cable to the second room and its non HD and
How far does your remote work when your in the second room?
Can you use the DVR function in the second room?
Does it need only one coaxial to the satelite dish?
If you hood it up to the phone line and two tv's there is still only one $5.00 fee?
Why do they care if its hooked up or not?
Sorry for all the questions but I'm in learning phase.
Thanks,
Yeah, the second tv hooks up to coaxial, mine is ran back under the floor of the house then up through the bedroom floor, into the back of the TV, the programming for some reason comes on channel 116, not sure why. If you have anaolg cable from a cable provider say for other locals or other national channels not carried by dish, you can hook your cable line into the reciever and get the cable channels through it, even shows up in the guide.
The 942 comes with an antenna on the back the 2nd remote, the second remote works anywhere in the house, even through walls. Both tuners have DVR, and you can record 2 shows at once, and watch from either room, you need 2 coaxial lines from the dish, one for each tuner. You need the phone hooked up to avoid the second tuner fee, not sure why they care
jergenf
08-11-2005, 08:17 AM
So you send a coaxial cable to the second room and its non HD andYes it's sent as RF usually as a UHF channel.
How far does your remote work when your in the second room?I believe up to 200 feet
Can you use the DVR function in the second room?Yes, it comes with two remote control. The living room uses the IR and the second room uses the UHF remote. When in dual user mode the second room can control the receiver's second tuner independently (just like having two receivers).
Does it need only one coaxial to the satelite dish?No, it requires two coax lines from the dish to the receiver. However if you have dishpro plus LNBs or DPP44 switch you can use one coax with DP separator. You also need to connect a TV antenna for OTA if you want locals to have HD capability. Naturally an outdoor antenna is the best choice and would require another coax from roof to receiver.
If you hood it up to the phone line and two tv's there is still only one $5.00 fee?,If you have a phone line connected you avoid the two receiver $5 fee reguardless if you use dual user mode or not.
You may still be charged the $4.98 DVR fee.
Why do they care if its hooked up or not?
The policy really makes little sense. If you had two seperate receivers they could activate/deactivate them independently but these dual user mode receivers are really just one unit. Also you can set them up for single user mode but they still want the units to report that anyway.
bnewt
08-11-2005, 11:34 AM
Yes it's sent as RF usually as a UHF channel.
No, it requires two coax lines from the dish to the receiver. However if you have dishpro plus LNBs or DPP44 switch you can use one coax with DP separator. You also need to connect a TV antenna for OTA if you want locals to have HD capability. Naturally an outdoor antenna is the best choice and would require another coax from roof to receiver.
If you use the DP separator/one cable setup, does it degrade the signal compared to the dual cable setup?
jergenf
08-11-2005, 12:53 PM
If you use the DP separator/one cable setup, does it degrade the signal compared to the dual cable setup?
That's something I also wondered about. In theory it shouldn't because it's a powered device however I'm unable to confirm it because at least with the 921 combined with the DPP44 switch the DP separator must be used to pass the switch test. Until they fix the problem with a software release I can't use two lines any more. Back when I had the DP34 switch I did have two lines and the signal levels were about the same as they are now. These things are differcult to measure because they change throughout the day.
PS: The DP separator can only be used on a dual tuner receiver and not two separate receivers. Examples 322, 522, 625, 921, 942