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UFC Fans.....

kamspy
07-15-2009, 01:24 PM
Mike Tyson circa 1987.....

Think he could beat any UFC fighter in their prime in a MMA match?

gwhoughton
07-15-2009, 01:36 PM
Mike Tyson circa 1987.....

Think he could beat any UFC fighter in their prime in a MMA match?

Oooohhh... Good question!! :yippee:

Not sure about "ANY" UFC fighter, but it sure would be fun to watch!! :banana: :2cents

ckone180
07-15-2009, 01:44 PM
Mike Tyson circa 1987.....

Think he could beat any UFC fighter in their prime in a MMA match?

Only if biting was allowed.

Cygnus
07-15-2009, 02:31 PM
Yeah, as long as it never went to the ground. But mike would not have been interested since UFC pays so little when compared to boxing.

kamspy
07-15-2009, 02:38 PM
Only if biting was allowed.

Not a very smart guy are ya?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nuL0GlBgVI


Personally, I think he's the best fighter of all time - in any fighting discipline.

I've seen all the fights multiple times. Own all his DVDs, watched every fight he ever recorded to video multiple times. Yeah, I'm a boxing nut and especially a Tyson nut (you guys are soulless bags for not posting in the Gatti RIP thread :mad:).


So yeah, I would literally bet my house that 1987 Mike Tyson would pound the organs out of any other fighter -boxing or MMA. Wouldn't even be close.




DISCLAIMER: I have went as far as to have Evander Hollyfield's face printed on shooting targets at the range I went to when I lived in downtown (they printed whatever you wanted there, but yeah, I still enjoyed it too much). I would gorilla punch him in nuts if I ever saw him. Head butting no good cheating piece of f............:censored

kamspy
07-15-2009, 02:42 PM
Yeah, as long as it never went to the ground. But mike would not have been interested since UFC pays so little when compared to boxing.

Even if it went to the ground.

Go back to the tapes. That wasn't fundamental boxing. There was no game plan. His instincts and overall bad intentions would easily overcome and ground moves or karate kicks.

Think the recent Lesnar fight, but multiply the violence by about 7,800.


Thread isn't about the money for the fight, just a conversation piece.

kamspy
07-15-2009, 02:44 PM
Oh yeah, conditions of the fight are Mike get's zero non-boxing training.

Other fighter can do whatever. :lol:

Cygnus
07-15-2009, 04:09 PM
But it it goes to the ground, that would weaken tyson's power. Tyson used his legs, hips, and had a vicious uppercut. He threw his entire body into the punch. It would be difficult for him to generate such power on the ground. Tyson also benefited from rep: boxers came into the ring fearing him (with good reason of course).

Even if it went to the ground.

Go back to the tapes. That wasn't fundamental boxing. There was no game plan. His instincts and overall bad intentions would easily overcome and ground moves or karate kicks.

Think the recent Lesnar fight, but multiply the violence by about 7,800.


Thread isn't about the money for the fight, just a conversation piece.

ckone180
07-15-2009, 04:19 PM
Not a very smart guy are ya?



Why would you say that? It is relevent to the issue. You say he goes in with no game plan, and I say YEAH! Except, in Boxing and UFC, partaking in a lucious and generous portion of your opponents body parts is not cool:stop. It really is not, and I dare anyone to say it is in line with the rules. I like to think of myself to have atleast an average level of intelligence:dunce:. Geez. :bs:

gwhoughton
07-15-2009, 10:47 PM
I used to have that old Sports Illustrated with him on it back when he was Kid Dynamite~ :yippee:

I remember his first few fights, maybe even after the first, I started wondering how long before he was going to kill someone. :eek:

The level of excitement; like your heart racing, standing up next to the TV screaming type stuff, was incredible. I too thought he was the greatest fighter I had ever seen. I knew immediately he would be the Heavyweight Champion of the World without a doubt.

But things started to go bad when Cus died, and I think he started to revert back to his early thug mentality. Cus was the father Mike never had, and was the only positive male role model in his life.

I think you have the PRE Cus-death Tyson, and the POST Cus-death Tyson. I think that was the beginning of the end.

And then the final thing was after someone actually hit him. When Douglass knocked his ass OUT, it was STUNNING. :eek:

Who would have ever believed that this killer could be even knocked down! I was so shocked... Prior to that, I think the mentality of all the opponents was to try to "last" and "escape/survive" the onslaught, as Tyson really was fearless and ruthless. Once people saw that he could be hurt, the floodgates opened.

So I guess my real answer would be yes, the 1987 Tyson was a disciplined bad-ass monster and would have had a good chance of kicking some ass, but the later Tyson, not so much. :2cents

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PS Kam, why do you hate Hollyfield? Way back in the day, I used to have a VHS I recorded of Hollyfields first title fight against Dwight Mohammed Quawie for the Middleweight Championship. It was a 15 round fight, and they beat each other toe to toe for all 15 rounds! It was a GREAT fight, and I'm pretty sure Hollyfield was hospitalized afterwards for fluid loss~

What about the Olympics? EVERYONE who watched them KNEW who the REAL BEST fighter there was... Even the guy they awarded the gold to pulled Evander up on the podium & held his arm up~ (I think it was the guy Evander accidentillay knocked out, wasn't it?) :what:

So why so anti-Hollyfield? :what:

gwhoughton
07-15-2009, 10:54 PM
But it it goes to the ground, that would weaken tyson's power. Tyson used his legs, hips, and had a vicious uppercut. He threw his entire body into the punch...

Did you look @ the slow motion replay of Hendersonís knockout the other night?!? You can see that punch starting in his toes & moving up his body like a wave till his hand contacts Bisbingís jaw! :eek:

But yeah, Tyson had a vicious uppercut~

kamspy
07-16-2009, 02:24 PM
Hollyfield put the nail in Tyson's coffin with two fights full of utterly dirty headbutts. Every time he'd sneak one in Tyson would get dizzy.

Watch the "Tyson" documentary. It doesn't come out in the states for another month, but I had to import it. It's really really good. He goes into detail about the Hollyfield fights.

No clue why the ref wasn't calling them. See if you can dig up the fights, it's really bad when you watch it and look for them.


Robin Givens is the person most responsible for the Tyson downfall, than the rape BS, then Hollyfield.

Bigloww
07-16-2009, 02:57 PM
These Tyson clips are some of my fav's..

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