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Comcast airs more Giants/A's games in HD than Directv.

EastBayJ
07-11-2009, 11:03 AM
How come the SF Giants game last night was not on CSNBayArea-HD?
It was on Comcast CSNBA-HD. Tonights game ain't in HD (FOR Directv viewers)...that's BS. A's games on the road are never on CSN-California-HD on Directv.

Comcast East Bay airs more Giants and A's games in HD than Directv.

If the game is on CSN-HD I would have thought all cable/sat providers would show it.
I guess Directv has limited bandwidth?
Not impressed.

Even though tonights Giants game is at home, directv is not showing it in HD.
I'm guessing Comcast is airing the CSNBA-HD broadcast.

chirshey
07-11-2009, 11:42 AM
D* will probably be the best source for the answer you are looking for. They usually control their own programing and the folks here have little to do with it.

Word Maestro
07-11-2009, 04:51 PM
How come the SF Giants game last night was not on CSNBayArea-HD?
It was on Comcast CSNBA-HD. Tonights game ain't in HD (FOR Directv viewers)...that's BS. A's games on the road are never on CSN-California-HD on Directv.

Comcast East Bay airs more Giants and A's games in HD than Directv.

If the game is on CSN-HD I would have thought all cable/sat providers would show it.
I guess Directv has limited bandwidth?
Not impressed.

Even though tonights Giants game is at home, directv is not showing it in HD.
I'm guessing Comcast is airing the CSNBA-HD broadcast.

I hope you realize that the SD telecast and the HD telecast were on two different channels. I'm a Mets fan, and when I tune to SNY-HD (Channel 639) my receiver automatically selects 639HD. There IS a 639SD, but I have my receiver configured to select the HD feed.

But when the SD telecast and the HD telecast are on two different channel numbers you must select the correct channel for the HD feed

GailLA
07-11-2009, 09:37 PM
EastBayJ has it right. We on D* are relegated to SD a lot of the time when watching Giants games. In fact, I want to watch the Padres vs. the Giants and know it is on EI in HD, but because I'm stuck in the Giants market I'm stuck viewing it on CSNBA in SD. I imagine other fans of other teams run into similar. It really sucks to know the game is on in HD, but I'm blacked out from it.

And one more gripe, why does CSN do stretchovision? If anything makes SD look even worse it is stretching it.

isszguy
07-11-2009, 10:51 PM
We on D* are relegated to SD a lot of the time when watching Giants games. In fact, I want to watch the Padres vs. the Giants and know it is on EI in HD, but because I'm stuck in the Giants market I'm stuck viewing it on CSNBA in SD. I imagine other fans of other teams run into similar. It really sucks to know the game is on in HD, but I'm blacked out from it.

And one more gripe, why does CSN do stretchovision? If anything makes SD look even worse it is stretching it.

Last point first. As far as I know, stretching a SD broadcast is a user function on the viewing set. Why would CSN stretch a broadcast that is also shown on older 4x3 sets?

Second point. From my experience, the ONLY EI game available to a viewer's market is the home team's sports network. NO exceptions except for FOX Saturday and ESPN Sunday games. So, if your local market team is only showing the game in SD, that's the ball game.

Sounds to me like CSN is only showing some or no games in HD. I find it extremely unlikely that DTV is screwing you out of your HD broadcast. The Bay market place is one of the largest in the country and you want me to believe that DTV will only show you games in SD? If Comcast is showing the games in HD, but not allowing DTV to do the same, take it up with Comcast or the Giants/A's.

EastBayJ
07-12-2009, 09:15 AM
The Stretching....it was happening to me as well, no viewer settings required. couldn't see the scoreboard at the bottom of the screen. Didn't touch my tv. They f* with it all by themselves. In the past the games had borders on the left and right side.

"I find it extremely unlikely that DTV is screwing you out of your HD broadcast."

The fact is, the game was available in HD on Comcast cable in the East Bay Area. The same game was only available in SD on D*.

I emailed D* and I'm sure they provide me a long bs answer.
"MHMA...More HD My Ass" . That should be their 2 yr contract motto.

GailLA
07-12-2009, 01:18 PM
The Stretching....it was happening to me as well, no viewer settings required. couldn't see the scoreboard at the bottom of the screen. Didn't touch my tv. They f* with it all by themselves. In the past the games had borders on the left and right side.

Right, I double checked both my D* receiver and my TV setting and the stretching was coming from either D* or Comcast but it was not a user setting. I can override it either with my receiver or my TV but doing that screws up everything else and since the SD is already so bad, it is hardly worth the effort.

"I find it extremely unlikely that DTV is screwing you out of your HD broadcast."

The fact is, the game was available in HD on Comcast cable in the East Bay Area. The same game was only available in SD on D*.

Not only that, but it was availble on an EI channel in HD but it was blacked out for me because I live in Giants territory.

I emailed D* and I'm sure they provide me a long bs answer.
"MHMA...More HD My Ass" . That should be their 2 yr contract motto.

lol EastBayJ. I love D*, and have no intention of canceling, but feel entitled to grouse. Hopefully when that new sat goes up they will catch up, but right now, they are truly falling behind and falling behind fast. If it weren't so painful watching sports in SD I wouldn't grouse. When you know it is being broadcast in HD but you can't get it, it just hurts.

WestDC
07-12-2009, 03:09 PM
That's It I'm Changing to Comcast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT

GailLA
07-12-2009, 03:14 PM
That's It I'm Changing to Comcast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT

Those big red letters are almost, but not quite as painful as watching sports in SD.

As to Comcast, I can't get them or any cable even if I wanted to, which I don't.

GailLA
07-12-2009, 05:46 PM
After I did some Googling I found that D* and CSNBA had a contract dispute this year. I also found that CSNBA holds back HD games unless CSNBA is a full time channel and on D* it is not. AFAIK this happens on E* as well as D*. Evidently we were better off with FSNBA because it was not owned by a cable company, Crumcast, that is preserving its turf and screwing the fans.

EastBayJ
07-12-2009, 06:22 PM
thanks for all the feedback and useful information.
Much appreciated!

glennb1
07-12-2009, 09:45 PM
That's It I'm Changing to Comcast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT

This is really funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT

calicogang
07-14-2009, 11:15 AM
I was p.o two about Friday's No-No and Saturday's game with the Giants not in HD on D*. That's because the games were only in HD on Comcast full time HD channels with D* does not carry. I sent them the email about this, but no reply as of today.:crying:

Mister_S
07-17-2009, 07:27 PM
If you live in the Bay Area and the game is in HD, you should be able to see it on DirecTV or CSN. For DirecTV customers, channel 696 is CSN. 6961 is the HD channel. Friday's no hitter was NOT in HD on any channel, including CSN. In fact, if you saw highlights on ESPN, you notice that it was not in HD. CSN can only broadcast 144 (plus/minus) games in HD. CSN has no advantage of HD broadcasts. BUT, some people can watch out of market games, and I suppose those could be in HD if local broadcast is not, I dont know the answer to that.

GailLA
07-18-2009, 03:26 PM
Mister, i watched the no hitter and I remember the announcers mentioning the game was being broadcast in HD. I always check all the CSN-BA and CSN-CA channels SD and HD when the Padres or Cubs (my teams -- no comments on their lack of luster, please) are playing the Giants (my market). I can assure you that Comcast broadcasts more games in HD to their own customers than they broadcast to D* customers. I'm sure that the Giants fans here can attest that we on D* are not getting anywhere near 144 games in HD.

My guesstimate is that we get one out of every 3 or 4 Giants local market games in HD via CSN on D*. Does anyone have a more accurate take on that? Since I'm not a Giants fan I don't track that as closely as Giants fans in the Giants market probably do.

Mister_S
07-19-2009, 01:28 PM
I might stand corrected. As of last week, it looks like Comcast is strong arming those who do not carry their station full time in HD. DirecTV carries CSN in Standard Def, but their games in HD. I found a posting in AVS Forum that included a letter from Comcast to a fan regarding this. THere are about 9 games that Comcast will show exclusively in HD, and DirecTV will not get them in HD.

Today, Sunday july 19th, the GIants are in pittsburgh. Currently I am watching IN SD. I am curious if this game is in HD on Comcast. There are still games in SD on Comcast, but it looks like they are playing hard ball.

A bit of history, DirecTV and Comcast were in a battle in the beginning of the season regarding the A's. Its a long story (you can google it) but the bottom line, there is probably more to this story then meets the eye, and these two companies are battling for HD supremcy.

I am a big Giants fan, and Big DTV Fan, brand new to HD world so I hope this resolves itself.

GailLA
07-21-2009, 09:45 AM
I am a big Giants fan, and Big DTV Fan, brand new to HD world so I hope this resolves itself.

Yes, that is the story as I understand it, too. As to it resolving itself, just like the transition to color, the transition to HD will take a few years, but it won't be long before it will be just as silly to show something offered in HD in SD, as it is to show something in offered in color in B&W. It won't even be a question. There will even be a time when D* has to drop its silly and money grabbing HD fee. Of course they won't drop it entirely, but it will be rolled in and everyone will pay the same because HD will just be included -- there will be no SD option.

And one last thing, Comcast sucks (for garbage like this).