True HD DVD Players: recommended models? + Procession Progressive Cinema...

I've been enjoying HD TV & DVDs for around 2 years ago, and just recently I decided to replace my DVD player.

I use a Sony HDMI Cable with both my DVD player and my Ps3, and I'm asking for what is an excellent true HD DVD player, that doesn't include Blu-Ray and/or records DVDs? My current player up-scales movies, which I don't want. I'm pretty sure this is my model: dvp-ns718h, originally found on the Sony website.

Secondly, as I'm still a newbie... is it possible to turn off the Procession Progressive Cinema feature for DVD players, or find a great setting? Because so far with tweaking settings and such, the quality is very poor on my TV/DVD player when watching animation, specifically traditional animation, and to a slightly lesser extent, ordinary live-action films.

Why would you want an HD DVD player? Blu-ray is the future of High def media. You have a PS3. You'd get very little value from an HD DVD player at this point.

But if you really want to get one, perhaps you'd be interested in a laserdisc player I have for sale as well?

Why would you want an HD DVD player? Blu-ray is the future of High def media. You have a PS3. You'd get very little value from an HD DVD player at this point.

But if you really want to get one, perhaps you'd be interested in a laserdisc player I have for sale as well?

I don't care much for Blu-Ray, and I'm not spending extra money on a Blu-Ray DVD Player when I have the Ps3 for my tiny Blu-Ray collection. I should have mentioned in my OP; I'm not interested in buying second-hand equipment.

Why would you want an HD DVD player? Blu-ray is the future of High def media. You have a PS3. You'd get very little value from an HD DVD player at this point.

But if you really want to get one, perhaps you'd be interested in a laserdisc player I have for sale as well?

You mean very little value as in having over 150 HD DVD titles available for $2-$6 (http://www.highdefforum.com/high-definition-media/93480-hddvd-titles-1-99-shipping.html), most of which are HD exclusive to the format? Or do you mean players available for under $50 on ebay, which is worth it for the upscaling alone?

And why would he want a laserdisc player? That's not HD and it looks like ass even compared to DVD. HD DVD looks just as good as Blu-ray, but of course that doesn't matter, right?

HD DVD is dead as for new titles going forward, but backwards still works just fine. As long as people are aware of that fact, then I think it's a great supplement to Blu-ray.

I've been enjoying HD TV & DVDs for around 2 years ago, and just recently I decided to replace my DVD player.

I use a Sony HDMI Cable with both my DVD player and my Ps3, and I'm asking for what is an excellent true HD DVD player, that doesn't include Blu-Ray and/or records DVDs? My current player up-scales movies, which I don't want. I'm pretty sure this is my model: dvp-ns718h, originally found on the Sony website.

Secondly, as I'm still a newbie... is it possible to turn off the Procession Progressive Cinema feature for DVD players, or find a great setting? Because so far with tweaking settings and such, the quality is very poor on my TV/DVD player when watching animation, specifically traditional animation, and to a slightly lesser extent, ordinary live-action films.



I don't care much for Blu-Ray, and I'm not spending extra money on a Blu-Ray DVD Player when I have the Ps3 for my tiny Blu-Ray collection. I should have mentioned in my OP; I'm not interested in buying second-hand equipment.

If you are not interested in buying used equipment, you might have a tough time finding a true HD DVD player new. I am not sure you really want a player for the format HD DVD, a competing HD format that has been discontinued by the major supporter, Toshiba, for over a year. All other companies involved with HD DVD quickly followed suit and the format is now deader than dead. I am not aware of any new stock remaining for players but of course there must be some somewhere.

You indicate you don't like Blu-ray but want HD DVD while HD DVD used the same codecs and the players used decoding chips from the same companies as Blu-ray players so I am a little unclear as to what you are really asking for. In my opinion, there is no valid reason related to performance to dislike Blu-ray and like HD DVD. Any HD DVD encode can be replicated exactly on Blu-ray and audio and video therefore indistinguishable when that happens. A case that Blu-ray performs better than HD DVD can be made.

If you really want some sort of HD player, not Blu-ray or HD DVD, then you need to be more specific as to what it is you want.

Chris

If you are not interested in buying used equipment, you might have a tough time finding a true HD DVD player new. I am not sure you really want a player for the format HD DVD, a competing HD format that has been discontinued by the major supporter, Toshiba, for over a year. All other companies involved with HD DVD quickly followed suit and the format is now deader than dead. I am not aware of any new stock remaining for players but of course there must be some somewhere.

You indicate you don't like Blu-ray but want HD DVD while HD DVD used the same codecs and the players used decoding chips from the same companies as Blu-ray players so I am a little unclear as to what you are really asking for. In my opinion, there is no valid reason related to performance to dislike Blu-ray and like HD DVD. Any HD DVD encode can be replicated exactly on Blu-ray and audio and video therefore indistinguishable when that happens. A case that Blu-ray performs better than HD DVD can be made.

If you really want some sort of HD player, not Blu-ray or HD DVD, then you need to be more specific as to what it is you want.

Chris

I'm afraid you have misunderstood me. My current upscale DVD player broke, and I'm looking for a recommended model of a HD DVD player. I pointed out that I have a Ps3 so that I don't need an additional Blu-Ray player.

My dilemma, which prompted my question here is that I heard that an upscale DVD player is only half the quality of a full HD DVD player. I don't own any of the dead format HD DVDs, just regular DVDs old and new.

So, I need to know if a HD DVD player only plays the now redundant HD DVD format, or can it play regular DVDs? If the truth is that an upscale DVD player players DVDs in full HD, and a HD DVD player is solely the redundant player for the retired HD DVDs, then there's nothing to upgrade from an upscale player, IE: The upscale player is the higher-graded player at the moment. Blu-Ray can't come into this, because I'm not asking about Blu-Ray or its differences. I just want to clear up if what I heard is wrong or right, regarding upscale vs true HD players.

To clarify... are you under the impression that an HD-DVD player uses different technology to playback standard dvd's than an "upscaling" dvd player? I do not think this is the case. My A2 is a great upscaler to 1080i, i am reluctant to part with it until the BD library is significantly expanded (sore loser), it just happens to utilize the technology with more success than some other models/brands be it blu-ray or not. Are you unhappy with the upscaling provided by your PS3?

True HD DVD format players CAN play and upscale SD DVDs very well along with playing true HD DVD discs/movies which are true HD content. Nothing currently can make a SD DVD look as good as BD or HD DVD discs will look since only HD DVD/BD discs are truly HD content on the discs.

A Toshiba "true" HD DVD player HD-A2, HD-A20, HD-XA2, HD-A3, HD-A30, or HD-A35 will upscale SD DVD very well, AND play HD DVD movies/discs that ARE true HD sources on the disc and are selling for about $5.00 each right now as well.

No new movies are coming out on HD DVD, but nearly all of the HD DVD releases are still out there to buy at prices often cheaper than the SD DVD versions, and they look just like the BD versions.

Hope this helps clear it up.

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PFC5 that was a very good reply...I learned something from this Forum...everyone this is why this HD forum is such a great place for information.

Thank you.

I think when he says HD DVD player, he is really saying an upscaler player. So he is asking what upscaler to buy, I think.

I would just use the PS3 myself and forget getting another upscaler for the one that broke. The PS3 is an upscaler for SD DVDs.

It seems to me that the OP thinks that an HD DVD player will upscale regular DVDs to HD quality. OP, that is NOT the case. An HD DVD player will play HD DVD (in the red cases) in HD quality. They upscale fine, but if you want an HD picture, stick to the blu ray player in your PS3.

You mean very little value as in having over 150 HD DVD titles available for $2-$6 (http://www.highdefforum.com/high-definition-media/93480-hddvd-titles-1-99-shipping.html), most of which are HD exclusive to the format? Or do you mean players available for under $50 on ebay, which is worth it for the upscaling alone?

And why would he want a laserdisc player? That's not HD and it looks like ass even compared to DVD. HD DVD looks just as good as Blu-ray, but of course that doesn't matter, right?

HD DVD is dead as for new titles going forward, but backwards still works just fine. As long as people are aware of that fact, then I think it's a great supplement to Blu-ray.

Apparently you forgot I have always favored HD DVD. ;)

Fact is though that it lost and is dead. I threw the Laserdisc comment in there because that too is dead - it was a stupid joke.

While there may be titles available, the library isn't going to grow. If someone wants to spend their money on discontinued technology, that's fine - I just wouldn't do it myself and was questioning why someone would.

So, to the OP - You aren't interested in blu-ray, so why would you be interested in HD DVD? Are there a list of titles you want or are you really more interested in upconverting??

Apparently you forgot I have always favored HD DVD. ;)

Fact is though that it lost and is dead. I threw the Laserdisc comment in there because that too is dead - it was a stupid joke.

While there may be titles available, the library isn't going to grow. If someone wants to spend their money on discontinued technology, that's fine - I just wouldn't do it myself and was questioning why someone would.

So, to the OP - You aren't interested in blu-ray, so why would you be interested in HD DVD? Are there a list of titles you want or are you really more interested in upconverting??

No, I never forgot that you once supported HD DVD, and my response would have been the same regardless who wrote it.

To clarify... are you under the impression that an HD-DVD player uses different technology to playback standard dvd's than an "upscaling" dvd player? I do not think this is the case. My A2 is a great upscaler to 1080i, i am reluctant to part with it until the BD library is significantly expanded (sore loser), it just happens to utilize the technology with more success than some other models/brands be it blu-ray or not. Are you unhappy with the upscaling provided by your PS3?

My Ps3 is good with upscaling, but the sound is poor- I have to jack up the volume to the 40's to hear a movie at its 'normal' volume level.

True HD DVD format players CAN play and upscale SD DVDs very well along with playing true HD DVD discs/movies which are true HD content. Nothing currently can make a SD DVD look as good as BD or HD DVD discs will look since only HD DVD/BD discs are truly HD content on the discs.

A Toshiba "true" HD DVD player HD-A2, HD-A20, HD-XA2, HD-A3, HD-A30, or HD-A35 will upscale SD DVD very well, AND play HD DVD movies/discs that ARE true HD sources on the disc and are selling for about $5.00 each right now as well.

No new movies are coming out on HD DVD, but nearly all of the HD DVD releases are still out there to buy at prices often cheaper than the SD DVD versions, and they look just like the BD versions.

Hope this helps clear it up.

Thanks mate, you answered my question!