Scheduling Tuners Independently on HD 722

I just upgraded my system to the 722 receiver. Since it has two tuners, I thought I would be able to schedule events independently on each tuner, but I'm unable to do it (or just don't know how to do it).

Record Plus supposedly directs the scheduled timers to either tuner, but if I have a program scheduled on TV1, and I want to schedule the SAME program on TV2 (because it's a different TV somewhere else in the house), I can't do it...

Does anyone know how to get around it, or is it a limitation of the system?

Thanks,

Since all recordings are available on both outputs, why would you need to do this?

Since all recordings are available on both outputs, why would you need to do this?
Thanks for responding, Garys. It's not that I want to record the same program in both tuners.

Let me explain. I have one TV in the bedroom (TV1), and I have scheduled that TV to tune (no recording) to a channel in the morning. I have 2 other TVs in the house, where I spend time, that are driven by TV2, and I would like those TVs to ALSO tune to the same channel in the morning (again, no recording).

THAT is what apparently I can't do. I kind of thought that I could more or less schedule each tuner as if they were totally independent, even if occasionally there were identical events.

I understand that the recordings are available to both TV1 and TV2, which makes sense.

Thanks again,

Do you need to have the receiver in dual user mode or can be set and left to single user mode? That would have all outputs as tv1 and would include all the secondary tv's and have the second tuner available for recording. If it has to remain in dual user mode, see if the skipped dvr program shows in the as "skipped". If it does, then select the program in question which takes you to the Timer Event screen. Once there select the "Restore" button. You may have to make sure the other tuner is not skipped when you do this.

Do you need to have the receiver in dual user mode or can be set and left to single user mode? That would have all outputs as tv1 and would include all the secondary tv's and have the second tuner available for recording. If it has to remain in dual user mode, see if the skipped dvr program shows in the as "skipped". If it does, then select the program in question which takes you to the Timer Event screen. Once there select the "Restore" button. You may have to make sure the other tuner is not skipped when you do this.

Well, frankly, even if that were possible, it seems far too much trouble. I decided to make my TV2 a "morning schedule" (for the shows I'll tune in during the day) and reserve TV1 for the "evening schedule", when I retire to the bedroom.

My conclusion is that it's a poor design. I would think that, ideally, one should be able to program each tuner independently of each other, even if occasionally both tuners are tuned to the same channel.

It appears that the scheduling part of the design can only accomodate one "timer" at a time, even if no recording is taking place, just "tune" to a channel.

Like I said, I can work around it by adjusting my personal process, but I would think that a more elegant and usefeul design would have allowed for totally independent scheduling.

Just my thoughts...

But thanks for your help, Garys, because I thought I was missing something (would not be the first time...). Thanks again.

Well, frankly, even if that were possible, it seems far too much trouble. I decided to make my TV2 a "morning schedule" (for the shows I'll tune in during the day) and reserve TV1 for the "evening schedule", when I retire to the bedroom.

My conclusion is that it's a poor design. I would think that, ideally, one should be able to program each tuner independently of each other, even if occasionally both tuners are tuned to the same channel.

It appears that the scheduling part of the design can only accomodate one "timer" at a time, even if no recording is taking place, just "tune" to a channel.

Like I said, I can work around it by adjusting my personal process, but I would think that a more elegant and usefeul design would have allowed for totally independent scheduling.

Just my thoughts...

But thanks for your help, Garys, because I thought I was missing something (would not be the first time...). Thanks again.
Just thinking of something else, are your secondary tv's connected by coax? The rf output on the 722 can be set to output both tv1 and tv2 and you can change the secondary tv's by changing the channel. The system info screen will tell you both channel numbers if that is the case.

Just thinking of something else, are your secondary tv's connected by coax? The rf output on the 722 can be set to output both tv1 and tv2 and you can change the secondary tv's by changing the channel. The system info screen will tell you both channel numbers if that is the case.
The secondary TVs ARE connected by coax, but I don't understand (lack of knowledge on my part) your point or how the box would allow for independent scheduling.

The secondary TVs ARE connected by coax, but I don't understand (lack of knowledge on my part) your point or how the box would allow for independent scheduling.

Not independent scheduling, it just gives you the option of viewing the other tv output. If you still schedule tv1 to tune to a certain channel, you can view it on your secondary tv's without using tv2, you can set that to a different channel and switch back and forth by changing the channel on the tv. It's just something else you can do with dual tuner receivers. You can try them and see if it works better for you.

Not independent scheduling, it just gives you the option of viewing the other tv output. If you still schedule tv1 to tune to a certain channel, you can view it on your secondary tv's without using tv2, you can set that to a different channel and switch back and forth by changing the channel on the tv. It's just something else you can do with dual tuner receivers. You can try them and see if it works better for you.
Thanks, Garys. I'll try it out.

The RF agile modulator on the 622/722 outputs both TV1 output and TV2 output through either UHF or cable frequencies and your remote TVs connected by coaxial cable can tune either output. All you need to know is the channel to tune.

Gary is great. I hope Dish gets you those HD locals besides WNEP soon. And on a better spotbeam for all your neighbors. :)

Well, frankly, even if that were possible, it seems far too much trouble. I decided to make my TV2 a "morning schedule" (for the shows I'll tune in during the day) and reserve TV1 for the "evening schedule", when I retire to the bedroom.

My conclusion is that it's a poor design. I would think that, ideally, one should be able to program each tuner independently of each other, even if occasionally both tuners are tuned to the same channel.

It appears that the scheduling part of the design can only accomodate one "timer" at a time, even if no recording is taking place, just "tune" to a channel.

Like I said, I can work around it by adjusting my personal process, but I would think that a more elegant and usefeul design would have allowed for totally independent scheduling.


OMG!!! WOW!!! You could pay someone to come over in the morning to push the 3 buttons to change the channel for you in case you forget to put in on your desired morning channel post evening retirement.

The other guys are right, you could program your "morning" TV set to wake up on the channel you choose for your modulated TV1 or TV2 output then also program the "evening" tv to tune to modulated TV1/TV2's output at retirement or vice versa as needed.

For your utmost convenience, you could get another receiver for the retirement room that could be independently scheduled(and be just like the other sat provider because they can't offer the dual tuner advantage). That would be an option, no????

Are you shooting for a totally automated morning and evening experience? I'm curious because it's a matter of pushing a sequence of 3 buttons, do you need to buy an additional TV2 remote?

NICK

OMG!!! WOW!!! You could pay someone to come over in the morning to push the 3 buttons to change the channel for you in case you forget to put in on your desired morning channel post evening retirement.

The other guys are right, you could program your "morning" TV set to wake up on the channel you choose for your modulated TV1 or TV2 output then also program the "evening" tv to tune to modulated TV1/TV2's output at retirement or vice versa as needed.

For your utmost convenience, you could get another receiver for the retirement room that could be independently scheduled(and be just like the other sat provider because they can't offer the dual tuner advantage). That would be an option, no????

Are you shooting for a totally automated morning and evening experience? I'm curious because it's a matter of pushing a sequence of 3 buttons, do you need to buy an additional TV2 remote?

NICK
Your sarcasm is not necessary, Nick. Believe it or not, I can work my way around most situations, and this one is not particularly perplexing.

I raised the question because I thought that the two tuners could be scheduled independently of each other, and obviously the design is flawed. It's not a big issue for me and it shouldn't be for you either.

Woohoo!!! Yeah!!! Me too.

I raised the question because I thought that the two tuners could be scheduled independently of each other, and obviously the design is flawed. It's not a big issue for me and it shouldn't be for you either.


Just because you don't like the way it works doesn't mean it's flawed.

press menu, #8 then #5 for record plus. Select disable and when you do that, it will allow you to set timers individually on each tv. If you set a timer on TV1, it will record on tv1. You will have to reset your timers once you have done this.

Gary: U da man. I followed your instructions. I have 2 tv's on TV2 using my 622. I can now watch a program from TV1 while normal recording is on TV2. And I can do this with either SD tv set. The only problem is the picture is squeezed together. Is there a way to stretch the sides out, without disturbing the 16:9 on TV1?

Just because you don't like the way it works doesn't mean it's flawed.

I agree with that, Pat. One opinion does not make a flaw. I don't like the mileage my car(s) get, so they're flawed too, right? Besides, I think someone posted the exact workaround. What's up with that Nick dude, woo, yeah, wtf?

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