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HD capture to PC ?

chuteboxe39
12-15-2008, 01:18 AM
Ok so i need some help figuring out what i need or if it is possible to capture HD as well as SD shows from direct tv on to my pc with the intent of burning the content onto DVDs. I found the the hauppage personal pvr recorder thing but is this a capable device for what i want ? or is it necessary to buy a card to put into the PC ? any help would be appreciated, thanks.

geronimo73
12-15-2008, 07:57 AM
Ok so i need some help figuring out what i need or if it is possible to capture HD as well as SD shows from direct tv on to my pc with the intent of burning the content onto DVDs. I found the the hauppage personal pvr recorder thing but is this a capable device for what i want ? or is it necessary to buy a card to put into the PC ? any help would be appreciated, thanks.

I would like to know a similar solution.
I have a playstation 3 console and I want to record the out signal to my pc or another external device. However I know the HDMI output is locked by HDCP.
But could you know a solution ? IMHO using HDFury or similar item.:rolleyes:

chuteboxe39
12-16-2008, 05:28 PM
anyone help us out with some info ?

rantanamo
12-17-2008, 02:56 AM
anyone help us out with some info ?

The Hauppauge HDPVR is the device you're looking for. Captures via component

rcoleman11
12-17-2008, 10:37 PM
The Hauppauge HDPVR is the device you're looking for. Captures via component

I can confirm that. I've been using mine for several months now. The quality is excellent - nearly indistiguishable from the original if you use the default settings. And with the included software you can burn your HD recordings onto standard DVDs and play them on your PS3. If you use double-layer DVDs you can record about 2 hours onto a DVD at the default settings.

MaxxPower
12-19-2008, 05:33 PM
I have the Hauppauge HDPVR also and IMO the quality is quite inferior compared to video captured on other systems via firewire. Don't forget this is an analog capture so it's definitely not going to be as clean and clear as the original broadcast, but it's pretty much the only solution since DTV found it unnecessary to provide us with firewire connections. :rolleyes: I have a LOT of material on my DVR that I wanted to capture and save to my PC but once I saw the quality and the fact that the captured files crash Media Center the HDPVR is now collecting dust.

rcoleman11
12-19-2008, 09:27 PM
I have the Hauppauge HDPVR also and IMO the quality is quite inferior compared to video captured on other systems via firewire. Don't forget this is an analog capture so it's definitely not going to be as clean and clear as the original broadcast, but it's pretty much the only solution since DTV found it unnecessary to provide us with firewire connections. :rolleyes: I have a LOT of material on my DVR that I wanted to capture and save to my PC but once I saw the quality and the fact that the captured files crash Media Center the HDPVR is now collecting dust.

There's something wrong with your setup. I've been using mine for months and I haven't experienced any of the problems you've described. I test every recording in the Windows Media Player and I've never had any of them fail to play or crash the app. As to "inferior" quality, I've done some testing using the default settings and showing recordings I've made to individuals who didn't know whether they were watching the DVR or a recording to DVD. None could tell which was which.

DirecTV isn't going to let you make copies of the DVR recordings. Any providers who do so are going to put copy restrictions on them. That's why recording over the component outputs is the best solution available today. You can record what you like and you don't have to put up with any of that kind of nonsense.

rbinck
12-20-2008, 10:01 AM
I will echo that rcoleman11. Something is wrong with MaxxPower's set up or he got a faulty unit. I find this is a good, and only todate, method of unloading DVRs and my recordings have great picture quality. They play with the included ArcSoft software just fine as well as media player and PowerDVD as long as you have a computer that is capable for HD video. Many aren't and will cause skipping and picture breakup. I also use the Western Digital TV HD Media Player for the recorded files and no problem with that either.

For more on these devices see:
Hauppauge 1212 HD-PVR Video Capture device (http://www.highdefinitionblog.com/?page_id=331)
Western Digital TV HD Media Player (http://www.highdefinitionblog.com/?p=346)

Jason44
12-21-2008, 01:25 PM
I can confirm that. I've been using mine for several months now. The quality is excellent - nearly indistiguishable from the original if you use the default settings. And with the included software you can burn your HD recordings onto standard DVDs and play them on your PS3. If you use double-layer DVDs you can record about 2 hours onto a DVD at the default settings.

Nice thanks I will have to try this out as well!

rcoleman11
12-21-2008, 11:40 PM
I will echo that rcoleman11. Something is wrong with MaxxPower's set up or he got a faulty unit. I find this is a good, and only todate, method of unloading DVRs and my recordings have great picture quality. They play with the included ArcSoft software just fine as well as media player and PowerDVD as long as you have a computer that is capable for HD video. Many aren't and will cause skipping and picture breakup. I also use the Western Digital TV HD Media Player for the recorded files and no problem with that either.

For more on these devices see:
Hauppauge 1212 HD-PVR Video Capture device (http://www.highdefinitionblog.com/?page_id=331)
Western Digital TV HD Media Player (http://www.highdefinitionblog.com/?p=346)


rbinck, thanks for the info on the HD Media Player. I've been looking for a way to play the video files I've captured to my PC on my HDTV. As I understand it, you just copy the files from the PC to a USB drive, and then connect the USB drive to the WD Media Player? Only problem is I'm running out of inputs on my HDTV, and I'm also considering the Roku for streaming video. Have you tried any of those HDMI switches? Any idea how well they work?

panard
12-22-2008, 08:36 AM
rbinck, thanks for the info on the HD Media Player. I've been looking for a way to play the video files I've captured to my PC on my HDTV. As I understand it, you just copy the files from the PC to a USB drive, and then connect the USB drive to the WD Media Player? Only problem is I'm running out of inputs on my HDTV, and I'm also considering the Roku for streaming video. Have you tried any of those HDMI switches? Any idea how well they work?
The PS3 or Xbox 360 will work as your media extender if you have one.
Jay

rbinck
12-22-2008, 11:19 AM
The PS3 or Xbox 360 will work as your media extender if you have one.
Jay
Will they will stream .m2ts files and all of the other file types that the WD TV HD Media Player does? What is nice about the WD unit is it very small, much smaller than the PS3 or Xbox, and can be placed just about anywhere you could place a book. Also it eliminates the need for a computer running once the files are loaded on the connected USB drive.
rbinck, thanks for the info on the HD Media Player. I've been looking for a way to play the video files I've captured to my PC on my HDTV. As I understand it, you just copy the files from the PC to a USB drive, and then connect the USB drive to the WD Media Player? Only problem is I'm running out of inputs on my HDTV, and I'm also considering the Roku for streaming video. Have you tried any of those HDMI switches? Any idea how well they work?
Yes that is correct. You just copy the files to a USB hard drive from your computer, then attach the USB drive to the Media Player. What I like about it is the computer does not have to be fired up to be able to play the files. I bought one for my wife to use in her TV room. She is visually impaired so she has to sit so close to the screen it is almost impossible for anyone else to watch TV with her, thus she has her own HDTV. I hooked up the WD unit to her HDTV and ran a long USB cable into the room where we have the HTPCs. That way I can disconnect the USB hard drive from her player and connect it to the HTPC to load files for her.

I built a couple of smaller hard drives for her, about 30 GB, that I load with the movies or other media she requests. That way the media player will have a minimum of files for her to navigate through. Fortunately she can read the WD menu items, so it works out very well. I thinking about getting another one so I don't have to have a HTPC running and to be a portable unit to take to parties for music videos. It will also hook up to SDTVs via the A/V outputs, so any TV can be accommodated.

The HDMI switches work fine and they are available with a remote control even. See: Are You Out Of Inputs? (http://www.highdefinitionblog.com/?page_id=263#OutOfInputs)

rcoleman11
12-22-2008, 06:39 PM
Will they will stream .m2ts files and all of the other file types that the WD TV HD Media Player does? What is nice about the WD unit is it very small, much smaller than the PS3 or Xbox, and can be placed just about anywhere you could place a book. Also it eliminates the need for a computer running once the files are loaded on the connected USB drive.


I was originally planning to use the PS3 to stream video from my PC, but I haven't been able to get it to work reliably with HD videos. At first I was able to stream the video, but not the audio without first converting it. Now I can't get the video to stream properly. I get a jerky stop-and-go video. Something seems to have changed in one of their updates. A lot of other PS3 users have been reporting this as well. It works great as a Blu-ray player, as well as a player for DVDs containing HD PVR recordings, but I've given up on it for streaming until Sony fixes some of these problems.


Yes that is correct. You just copy the files to a USB hard drive from your computer, then attach the USB drive to the Media Player. What I like about it is the computer does not have to be fired up to be able to play the files. I bought one for my wife to use in her TV room. She is visually impaired so she has to sit so close to the screen it is almost impossible for anyone else to watch TV with her, thus she has her own HDTV. I hooked up the WD unit to her HDTV and ran a long USB cable into the room where we have the HTPCs. That way I can disconnect the USB hard drive from her player and connect it to the HTPC to load files for her.

I built a couple of smaller hard drives for her, about 30 GB, that I load with the movies or other media she requests. That way the media player will have a minimum of files for her to navigate through. Fortunately she can read the WD menu items, so it works out very well. I thinking about getting another one so I don't have to have a HTPC running and to be a portable unit to take to parties for music videos. It will also hook up to SDTVs via the A/V outputs, so any TV can be accommodated.

The HDMI switches work fine and they are available with a remote control even. See: Are You Out Of Inputs? (http://www.highdefinitionblog.com/?page_id=263#OutOfInputs)

Thanks, it sounds like the WD Media Player is what I've been looking for. Best Buy has it in their weekly ad for $99.

rcoleman11
12-23-2008, 02:47 AM
Looks like a firmware upgrade just came out for the WD Media Player that includes support for playing .TS files without having to change the extension or convert them.

http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/12/22/firmware-update-now-available-for-your-western-digital-wd-tv-hd-media-player/

chirshey
12-23-2008, 07:52 AM
Is this the time to throw out the "T R O L L" alert?
:confused:

rcoleman11
01-03-2009, 09:15 PM
rbinck: Thanks for pointing me to the WD Media Player. I bought one last week. I've had one minor issue with it - there seems to be a slight stutter in the video every few seconds when playing 720P video. The files where it's most noticeable are football games recorded from ESPN and NFL Sunday Ticket. 1080i videos play flawlessly. Any ideas on this? I'm using the updated firmware that was just released. The videos I'm using are .TS files, which are supported by the new firmware.

I may try converting one of the the 720P files to m2ts to see if it makes a difference. I was going to try switching the video from "auto" to 720P, but I accidentally picked a refresh rate (50fps) that wasn't supported by my HDTV and I lost the video. It took some doing to get it working again (putting a paper clip in the hole on the side and holding it there for a few seconds resets it to defaults), so I've been a little gun-shy about changing the video setting again. Any suggestions?

glennb1
01-04-2009, 02:25 PM
Is this the time to throw out the "T R O L L" alert?
:confused:

:confused:

rbinck
01-04-2009, 03:04 PM
Is this the time to throw out the "T R O L L" alert?
:confused:Was for the spammer in a previous post.

rbinck
01-04-2009, 03:08 PM
rbinck: Thanks for pointing me to the WD Media Player. I bought one last week. I've had one minor issue with it - there seems to be a slight stutter in the video every few seconds when playing 720P video. The files where it's most noticeable are football games recorded from ESPN and NFL Sunday Ticket. 1080i videos play flawlessly. Any ideas on this? I'm using the updated firmware that was just released. The videos I'm using are .TS files, which are supported by the new firmware.

I may try converting one of the the 720P files to m2ts to see if it makes a difference. I was going to try switching the video from "auto" to 720P, but I accidentally picked a refresh rate (50fps) that wasn't supported by my HDTV and I lost the video. It took some doing to get it working again (putting a paper clip in the hole on the side and holding it there for a few seconds resets it to defaults), so I've been a little gun-shy about changing the video setting again. Any suggestions?
Hmmm. I haven't upgraded my firmware and I don't have the same problem. Mostly I capture at 1080i so it could be I would if I used the 720p. Maybe capture at 1080i would be better.

rcoleman11
01-04-2009, 07:22 PM
Hmmm. I haven't upgraded my firmware and I don't have the same problem. Mostly I capture at 1080i so it could be I would if I used the 720p. Maybe capture at 1080i would be better.

Fox, ESPN, and NFL Sunday Ticket are all broadcast at 720P, which is why the HD PVR captures at that resolution. When you capture from a 1080i source, it will capture at 1080i. You can change the bitrate, but I don't think there's a way to change the resolution when the source is 720P. It's probably just a firmware issue, but I'll do a search to see if anyone else is having this issue. Thanks for the reply.