Ok, I'm about to buy the sony 46V4100, and I bought the monster Power av700, its rated for about 1400 joules. Now I need to know how may joules the tv will consumer, a ps3, a laptop, and a surround sound system. Mainly I need to know the tv joule consumption, because according to the warrenty, for it to cover your product, you have to be in the joule consumption amount for the things connected to it. http://www.buy.com/prod/monster-av700-8-outlet-powercenter/q/loc/111/208815091.html, thats teh power surge specs, I didn't buy it there, but that is the specs. Is this a good surge protector, and will this protect my tv and ps3? thanks
Derek
dereileak
10-24-2008, 08:34 PM
so does anyone know? anyone? I need to know, I just ordered my sony 46V4100
daleb
10-25-2008, 06:47 PM
The electronics listed are normally rated in 'watts' not joules. Most quality surge protectors will work fine for your purpose.
Total power consumption information is mostly for using battery back-up, or UPS protection.
In those cases you want a unit with at least 25% more reserve.
BrianO
10-26-2008, 02:10 AM
so does anyone know? anyone? I need to know, I just ordered my sony 46V4100
The Joule ratiing is a measure of the surge suppression capability of the power bar. It has nothing to do with the power consumption of the devices connected to it. The power bar should have no problem with your new TV or any other TV on the market.
However, with 8 outlets on the power bar you are adding 7 new sockets to an existing household circuit (8 minus the 1 you have the bar plugged into). Therefore, you need to take care that the total power consumption of the devices connected to the power bar does not cause the capacity of the affected household electrical circuit (1800 watts for a standard 120 volt, 15 amp circuit) to be exceeded. So, don't plug a high powered microwave oven into the power bar along with your TV and other electronics so you can cook microwave popcorn without leaving the room while watching TV. Leave the cookng appliances in the kitchen where they belong.
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daleb
10-26-2008, 01:21 PM
The Joule ratiing is a measure of the surge suppression capability of the power bar. It has nothing to do with the power consumption of the devices connected to it. The power bar should have no problem with your new TV or any other TV on the market.
However, with 8 outlets on the power bar you are adding 7 new sockets to an existing household circuit (8 minus the 1 you have the bar plugged into). Therefore, you need to take care that the total power consumption of the devices connected to the power bar does not cause the capacity of the affected household electrical circuit (1800 watts for a standard 120 volt, 15 amp circuit) to be exceeded. So, don't plug a high powered microwave oven into the power bar along with your TV and other electronics so you can cook microwave popcorn without leaving the room while watching TV. Leave the cookng appliances in the kitchen where they belong.
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Good advice, plus if you have a LOT to protect it can be wise to split and use more than one circuit in the house. You can then use 2 moderately priced protection strips.
But in most cases with a/v you should be able to stay well under the 1800W max. And as advised, combine those bathroom breaks with microwave popcorn trips to the kitchen. :)
You pay more, but if you only want a 'strip' I would go with the Tripp-Lite or Panamax that have power removal in case of large line excursions and not rely totally on self-sacrificing MOVs. Well worth it IMO, and still stay under a C note in price.
dereileak
10-26-2008, 10:33 PM
Good advice, plus if you have a LOT to protect it can be wise to split and use more than one circuit in the house. You can then use 2 moderately priced protection strips.
But in most cases with a/v you should be able to stay well under the 1800W max. And as advised, combine those bathroom breaks with microwave popcorn trips to the kitchen. :)
You pay more, but if you only want a 'strip' I would go with the Tripp-Lite or Panamax that have power removal in case of large line excursions and not rely totally on self-sacrificing MOVs. Well worth it IMO, and still stay under a C note in price.
Ok, well I work at bestbuy, so I dont have to pay the dumb margin on monster stuff, so I'm thinking of upgrading mine, and taking it back, I have a ps3, laptop, surround sound, tv, psp, and satillite box hooked to it, so thats about 240tv + 300ps3 + up to 500 watts for surround sound, 1000 peak, but I never reach even 500, well thats output and not input either, lol nots sure on the others, but it should be under 1000 watts, im just conserned if I should get a better one, like teh monster bar that disconnects the power, I never have lost anything to a surge, but I dont want to risk a ps3, tv, laptop, surround sound, sat reciever, psp, which adds up to 1400+1799+199+250+299, which is like, lots of money that I would be out of over a like 30 dollar surge protector, after my discount, I think I might want to upgrade
Loves2Watch
10-26-2008, 11:08 PM
If you want the best protection, get yourself a UPS. The battery in the unit takes the hit, not your equipment. I can't begin to count the amount of equipment, including TV's that were broken/fried after an electrical surge while connected to a Monster and other brands of surge protectors.
And while the most surge protectors have equipment guarantees, I would rather not have to go to the trouble of repairing or replacing my equipment, especially the TV. Not to mention the time I would be without it while being replaced/repaired.
daleb
10-27-2008, 01:18 PM
If you want the best protection, get yourself a UPS. The battery in the unit takes the hit, not your equipment. I can't begin to count the amount of equipment, including TV's that were broken/fried after an electrical surge while connected to a Monster and other brands of surge protectors.
And while the most surge protectors have equipment guarantees, I would rather not have to go to the trouble of repairing or replacing my equipment, especially the TV. Not to mention the time I would be without it while being replaced/repaired.
Actually, the battery does not take the hit, it's the switching circuit. Very similar to the 'power cycle' of removing power in a Panamax, only difference, no battery to continue feeding power.
I have had more than one Panamax power cycle over several years worth of power interrupts without any problems.
Not to say a UPS is a bad alternative, as both will effectively isolate the equipment from the AC line. I just don't think a UPS is needed for everything. For anything with a hard drive I think it is essential, and probably lamp projection units.
You are right, it can also be used in place of other types of protection and is very effective in those instances, but from a cost-effective standpoint it's not the only alternative, that's my only point.
Of course, your own 'power environment' (frequency of outages, as well as your own wiring, etc.) will also dictate your needs.
I've never had anything damaged by power problems. But I do live in a relatively mild climate too.
Loves2Watch
10-27-2008, 01:34 PM
Actually, the battery does not take the hit, it's the switching circuit. Very similar to the 'power cycle' of removing power in a Panamax, only difference, no battery to continue feeding power.
I beg to differ with you on that point. In any case a UPS can be purchased for $40 or less these days.
daleb
10-27-2008, 01:47 PM
I beg to differ with you on that point. In any case a UPS can be purchased for $40 or less these days.
I have no doubt, although I am not sure it would be of the capacity or quality he needs.
I know APC for one, has a some great 'outlet' deals though.
Of course, with a new display, he should not cheap out, but at the same time he should be able to find some quality bargains under $100. Point being, if it is important enough to use protection, don't skimp on getting something of decent quality. < I guess that could apply to any kind of protection!:D
dereileak
10-27-2008, 08:57 PM
I beg to differ with you on that point. In any case a UPS can be purchased for $40 or less these days.
can you link me to one of these, perferible bestbuy, cause of my discount, they have panamax at bestbuys, what one can I get for 40-50 bucks? I want one to protect my 46 inch lcd, Laptop, 500 watt surround sound, ps3, psp, and some other random stuff, it HAS to have a coaxial protection too
dereileak
10-27-2008, 10:34 PM
how much ?price?
what price?
daleb
10-28-2008, 12:56 PM
can you link me to one of these, perferible bestbuy, cause of my discount, they have panamax at bestbuys, what one can I get for 40-50 bucks? I want one to protect my 46 inch lcd, Laptop, 500 watt surround sound, ps3, psp, and some other random stuff, it HAS to have a coaxial protection too
You need to know the total wattage for everything you want to plug in, and then add another 25% for cushion. Find a UPS rated for that, or close to it.
APC, Belkin, Cyberpower, and Tripp-Lite are the most popular brands. Why can't you search BestBuy?