More tax free checks are coming again..

Going to be after the election though.. Oh joy more tax free money in our pockets. I hope it more than last time. They say 150 billion instead of 170 billion last time around. But it's going to cover states and infrastructure needs and help those on unemployment whose funds are dried up being out of work so long. Those of us working better watch it as you never know who gets that letter...

What's your source for this information ?

no way!

What's your source for this information ?

CNN this morning with this lady below said it on the news:

http://www.voanews.com/english/images/ap-Nancy-Pelosi-economic-experts-175eng13oct08_1.jpg

More here...
http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-10-14-voa3.cfm

Still sounds kind of vague.

Don't hang out at the mailbox every morning waiting for another stimulus check to come.

Still sounds kind of vague.

Don't hang out at the mailbox every morning waiting for another stimulus check to come.

IRS told me when my check was going to be in my mail box. So I didn't wait for it. They were off a few days though. I think it will come, and I am sure you could use it like all of us here. Still what amount should be fair? $1,200 goes quickly.. If you got 6x kids you at $300 a pop. I had told my nephew if you want Xbox 360 go ask your mom since she's getting $300 for you back from the Government.

:banghead: I think the government should just send everyone a check for $3.78 million-- and that's all you get-- ever! And send it to illegals too-- perhaps most will take it and run home.

And Nancy P. needs to raise the minimum wage too . . . afterall, when those burger flippers get their $3.78 million, most are not going to want work for 8 bucks an hour any longer. (Damn, I wonder who I can find to cut my grass . . . )

This whole concept of taking the wealth from those that have some and giving it to those who don't is just stupid-- there seems to be group determind to make this even more of a welfare country. I hope Bill Gates, Warren buffet, et al can continue to fund this nonsence, because as middle class taxpayer, I have had just about all I am willing to stand-- it may be time to "quit" making and start taking myself.
:banana:

:banghead: I think the government should just send everyone a check for $3.78 million-- and that's all you get-- ever! And send it to illegals too-- perhaps most will take it and run home.

And Nancy P. needs to raise the minimum wage too . . . afterall, when those burger flippers get their $3.78 million, most are not going to want work for 8 bucks an hour any longer. (Damn, I wonder who I can find to cut my grass . . . )

This whole concept of taking the wealth from those that have some and giving it to those who don't is just stupid-- there seems to be group determind to make this even more of a welfare country. I hope Bill Gates, Warren buffet, et al can continue to fund this nonsence, because as middle class taxpayer, I have had just about all I am willing to stand-- it may be time to "quit" making and start taking myself.
:banana:
Good post.
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From Alexander Tyler. No, he wasn't writing about the United States. This quote is well over one hundred years old. Tyler was writing about the fall of the Athenian Republic.


"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage."http://boortz.com/more/quotes.html

Indeed hatt, I am familiar with this writing.

I think we in the later stages of the fall and our friends in EU are just in front of us . . .

" . . . from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage."

I think we are in the blue here . . . I used to be complacent, but now I just don't care anymore. Like this election: Obama's plan is a sure trip into a depression: more spending and higher taxes. But on the other hand, the media and the left are so filled with hate, If McCain were to win, the news would harp on everything negative even more than do now, and fear and panic over the economy will increase and we will continue to go down hill. Maybe if the marxist community organizer wins, the media will tell everyone how wonderful things are and just maybe enough people will believe it, so that things start to turn around. I really don't care either way.

Our government (all of it) is just too large and out of control. And the attacks on the second amendment over the last two centuries have left the population ill prepared to overthrow an oppressive government. We get what we deserve.

When HD get to Panama; I'm going to consider moving. :what:

:banghead: I think the government should just send everyone a check for $3.78 million-- and that's all you get-- ever! And send it to illegals too-- perhaps most will take it and run home.

And Nancy P. needs to raise the minimum wage too . . . afterall, when those burger flippers get their $3.78 million, most are not going to want work for 8 bucks an hour any longer. (Damn, I wonder who I can find to cut my grass . . . )

This whole concept of taking the wealth from those that have some and giving it to those who don't is just stupid-- there seems to be group determind to make this even more of a welfare country. I hope Bill Gates, Warren buffet, et al can continue to fund this nonsence, because as middle class taxpayer, I have had just about all I am willing to stand-- it may be time to "quit" making and start taking myself.
:banana:

Minimum wage is higher on the Indian reservation then it is in USA side. Still that should be now $20 an hour, don't see how anyone can still live on the rate now. Crazy if you think about it. Don't forget charities those who have it get tax breaks if they give some of there money away.

Unemployment funds should be automatic when you loose your job the x-employer just presses a button he's cut! Plus funds should never end if you're used all of the the funds or until you find a job.

These checks we all go what did most of you do with it? I gave it to the wife I haven't see what she did with it. :banghead:

Gas was so high the past couple of months it's crazy if you have a large V6 and V8 some 4s don't get good gas mileage anymore. I laugh when they say 24 highway like that's what you're going to get. Yeah right. Stuck in rush hour traffic lets see if you get 24 highway..

Everyone buying lottery tickets but the money goes for the state as not everyone going to win. I see people buying $20 dollars tickets one woman was spending $100 bucks just to win back $20!

Indeed hatt, I am familiar with this writing.

I think we in the later stages of the fall and our friends in EU are just in front of us . . .

" . . . from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage."

I think we are in the blue here . . . I used to be complacent, but now I just don't care anymore. Like this election: Obama's plan is a sure trip into a depression: more spending and higher taxes. But on the other hand, the media and the left are so filled with hate, If McCain were to win, the news would harp on everything negative even more than do now, and fear and panic over the economy will increase and we will continue to go down hill. Maybe if the marxist community organizer wins, the media will tell everyone how wonderful things are and just maybe enough people will believe it, so that things start to turn around. I really don't care either way.

Our government (all of it) is just too large and out of control. And the attacks on the second amendment over the last two centuries have left the population ill prepared to overthrow an oppressive government. We get what we deserve.

When HD get to Panama; I'm going to consider moving. :what:


Excellent post!
Good thing Texas can become its own country if needed, we have oil and our own Air Force!:lol:

Great so they send out a check for a few hundred bucks to keep people happy and hope it will make us not notice that they are shoving it right up are ass and laughing themselves all the way to their retirement home filled with the fruits of our labor. I KNOW IT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER.....:eyecrazy

Our government has been taking money from the working class and writing welfare checks to the millionaires, billionaires, and wealthy corporations since Regan took office. Whats wrong with giving a measly $600 to people who actually earn their income through a little something called LABOR?

Our government has been taking money from the working class and writing welfare checks to the millionaires, billionaires, and wealthy corporations since Regan took office. Whats wrong with giving a measly $600 to people who actually earn their income through a little something called LABOR?
Really?
According to a recent study by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, those who make more than $43,200 (the top 40%) pay 99.1% of all income taxes, the taxes that support our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, and, for example, fund the federal portion of transportation, education, environmental and welfare spending.

Those who made more than $87,300 in 2004, the top 10%, paid 70.8% of all income taxes, an increase from their share of 48.1% in 1979. Think about it. Ten percent pay seven out of every 10 dollars and their share of the burden is rising.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117668220910270761.html

The numbers show an increased tax burden on the the fat cats.

Really?



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117668220910270761.html

The numbers show an increased tax burden on the the fat cats.

yep, there has been an assault on achievement going on in this country for a while now.

Our government has been taking money from the working class and writing welfare checks to the millionaires, billionaires, and wealthy corporations since Regan took office. Whats wrong with giving a measly $600 to people who actually earn their income through a little something called LABOR?

Problem is that they give the money to everyone including people who pay no taxes............

You left out the part where the unfettered capitalist market created this mess we are in and how the party that John McCain is a lifelong member of paved the way.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j-G-fDVnv0WN1pXdMWjXX43CjyeAD93TM5QO0

Fuck it, move to Panama, I had to man up and take this shit for the last 8 years, but that's just me.

Indeed hatt,
Maybe if the marxist community organizer wins, the media will tell everyone how wonderful things are and just maybe enough people will believe it, so that things start to turn around. I really don't care either way.

Our government (all of it) is just too large and out of control. And the attacks on the second amendment over the last two centuries have left the population ill prepared to overthrow an oppressive government. We get what we deserve.

When HD get to Panama; I'm going to consider moving. :what:

You left out the part where the unfettered capitalist market created this mess we are in and how the party that John McCain is a lifelong member of paved the way.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j-G-fDVnv0WN1pXdMWjXX43CjyeAD93TM5QO0

Fuck it, move to Panama, I had to man up and take this shit for the last 8 years, but that's just me.

:roflmao:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

Really?



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117668220910270761.html

The numbers show an increased tax burden on the the fat cats.

Haha, you just proved how horrible the income inequality is in this country. Income tax on wages up to $79k/year is 25%, up to $165k/year is 28%, up to $350k/year is 33%, and $351k+/year is 35%.

Thats only a difference of 10%. So if your numbers are correct, it just illustrates how pathetic the distribution of wealth is in this country. 1% of the people hold something like 90% of the wealth in the country. Its sick. Makes perfect sense that they would pay most of the income tax. If they have most of the money, why shouldn't they pay most of the tax? Its just illogical any other way. (unless you're hatt, than the illogical becomes logical)


As in a poker game where the chips were concentrated in fewer and fewer hands, the other fellows could stay in the game only by borrowing. When their credit ran out, the game stopped.

Problem is that they give the money to everyone including people who pay no taxes............

Yeah, like huge corporations, oil companies, companies who move their headquarters overseas, etc.

Besides, its funny when people get upset about giving poor people $600 dollars, but they don't get a billion times more angry at giving Wall Street $700 billion dollars.

If $600 to a person who pays no income tax because their taxable income is ZERO (meaning they are pathetically broke and reap NO benefits from their life choices) = Bad, then $700 billion dollars to investors who create bubbles and destroy markets should = revolution. But I don't see anyone getting their pitchforks

Haha, you just proved how horrible the income inequality is in this country. Income tax on wages up to $79k/year is 25%, up to $165k/year is 28%, up to $350k/year is 33%, and $351k+/year is 35%.

Thats only a difference of 10%. So if your numbers are correct, it just illustrates how pathetic the distribution of wealth is in this country. 1% of the people hold something like 90% of the wealth in the country. Its sick. Makes perfect sense that they would pay most of the income tax. If they have most of the money, why shouldn't they pay most of the tax? Its just illogical any other way. (unless you're hatt, than the illogical becomes logical)Making up numbers again? Notice I linked some sources for my numbers. You did have a pretty quote however.

So, 1% of the country owns 50% of it's wealth yet pays 25% of the total tax base. That's a lot easier to figure out. Spin it any way you want.

BTW- The WSJ? Aren't they part of the 'liberal media elite"? Or is that only when it's politically convenient? How about a link to Nobel prize winning economist Paul Krugman, who says the WSJ is full of shit. How about that one?

Who exactly, was in control of Congress in 2004?
The uppity colored folks?
You do realize that that footage is edited, right?
Try this one-

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=m6PN1NRWXzc

Making up numbers again? Notice I linked some sources for my numbers. You did have a pretty quote however.

Those are the federal income tax rates based on income levels, a matter of public record. Its common knowledge for anyone who pretends to know something about economic policy. (So yes, I guess I should have provided a link for you because thats obviously not something you would know anything about)

Here's a full copy of the 2008 federal tax overview, by the House of Representatives; you know, the ones from Congress? Page 5 has the exact tax brackets and percentages, as I listed earlier.
http://www.house.gov/jct/x-32-08.pdf

Those are the federal income tax rates based on income levels, a matter of public record. Its common knowledge for anyone who pretends to know something about economic policy. (So yes, I guess I should have provided a link for you because thats obviously not something you would know anything about)

Here's a full copy of the 2008 federal tax overview, by the House of Representatives; you know, the ones from Congress? Page 5 has the exact tax brackets and percentages, as I listed earlier.
http://www.house.gov/jct/x-32-08.pdf:lol:

:lol:

Typical time wasting response from a troll. :rolleyes:

I don't get why the last one was $300 per kid in the house.
The kids aren't earning money and paying taxes.

It should be based on the parents income. The number of kids they have shouldn't have a damn thing to do with it.

Typical time wasting response from a troll. :rolleyes:Since this isn't a political forum I try and stay out of it as much as I can. I still like to stop by and get a chuckle checking out what you write in between your visits to the bar.:hithere:

I don't get why the last one was $300 per kid in the house.
The kids aren't earning money and paying taxes.

It should be based on the parents income. The number of kids they have shouldn't have a damn thing to do with it.

It was $600 for kids and $1500 for married couples. But they lowered it.

Most of the money doesn't go far if you ask me, but it needs to be on a regular bases. Everything is a mess now. Have you seen all the small business going under. Linen and things going out of business, not going to be the same.

Some us here are upset were the money is going.. Have you see the movie W.?

Some us here are upset were the money is going.. Have you see the movie W.?

No.

I don't go to boring political movies.

I did see the V miniseries on TV many years ago.

I heard someone is re-doing it now.

No.

I don't go to boring political movies.

I did see the V miniseries on TV many years ago.

I heard someone is re-doing it now.

I loved that show. I'm sure it would be super cheesy now just like Airwolf/A-Team/McGuyver and so on but it sure seemed great back then.

No.

I don't go to boring political movies.

I did see the V miniseries on TV many years ago.

I heard someone is re-doing it now.

V - no way.. For it's time it was okay, but I couldn't go through that again. W. was pulled at the theater, funny how it made it through the red tape.

Free money is coming soon they keep on talking about it.. Might be in time for the Xmas holidays otherwise this won't be a MERRY XMAS THIS YEAR no Santa no money no gifts as no money. to spend just bills go higher then last year!

Retail Stores and Burger King, Mc D, Arbys Drive thru where empty the other night. Anyway I just ordered from Amazon on Monday afternoon I got my items next morning UPS dropped them off it was all free (shipping) not the items, I am trying Amazon Prime it's okay..