Toshiba still showing luv to HDdvd

http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/29/toshiba-rolls-out-firmware-updates-for-its-hd-dvd-players-seriously/

Bet Sony wouldnt have done the same.

We will never know, but I would say you would lose that bet. I owned Sony Beta for many years after it lost that format war and the product was well supported. Sony has done a great job with firmware for the Sony Blu-ray players, I own players from both formats and Sony has been the best by providing timely and good firmware updates. Don't forget the Toshiba firmware update was necessary because Toshiba provided firmware that caused awful jaggies at 1080/24p. I am happy as everybody else is that owns a player to see these firmware updates, but your allegation is blatantly false. My hat's off to Toshiba as well, I have installed this firmware and it appears to me at this time to be an improvement, but time will tell and if another is needed, I expect Toshiba to deliver once again. Toshiba has done a good job and I am happy with my Toshiba HD DVD players, but Sony has done even better and I happier with my Sony Blu-ray players.

Chris

Chris:

Have you updated your A20 to 4.0? What did it improve on it? I am at 2.7 because i heard of issues with 2.8 & 3.0 so I only updated to 2.7. Some are reporting some improved PQ (placebo effect?) beyond fixing the 1080p/24Fps jaggies on AVC encoded movies.

Thanks for any feedback you have so I know whether or not to do it.

Chris:

Have you updated your A20 to 4.0? What did it improve on it? I am at 2.7 because i heard of issues with 2.8 & 3.0 so I only updated to 2.7. Some are reporting some improved PQ (placebo effect?) beyond fixing the 1080p/24Fps jaggies on AVC encoded movies.

Thanks for any feedback you have so I know whether or not to do it.

I have downloaded the firmware but don't have an A20 connected now, it is among by backup players. I have read that 4.0 is a good update for all of the 1080/24p players. I am using an HD-A30 at 4.0 and did play a few discs with my HD-XA2 at 4.0 and I am a believer. I do believe my HD-A30 picture quality is better at 4.0, but without doing significant tests with old and new, I really can't know for certain. I have played an MPEG-4 disc at 1080/24p and noticed no issues at all but I am using a 720p projector, the Panasonic PT-AE900U that accepts a 1080/24p input, not a true 1080p display.

I played a standard DVD with my HD-A30 upscaled to 1080/24p and thought it really looked great, better than I had seen from that player with earlier firmware. You might wait a few weeks and then visit the AVSForum on this player and see what the consensus is. You were wise to avoid 2.8 and 3.0, but I believe 4.0 is going to be the best yet.

Chris

Chris:

Have you updated your A20 to 4.0? What did it improve on it? I am at 2.7 because i heard of issues with 2.8 & 3.0 so I only updated to 2.7. Some are reporting some improved PQ (placebo effect?) beyond fixing the 1080p/24Fps jaggies on AVC encoded movies.

Thanks for any feedback you have so I know whether or not to do it.

I did update th 4.0 on my A20 and it seems to have had multiple benefits including improved PQ (although I cannot explain that) elimination of jaggies and a little better response time to commands.

A lot of these threads are maned by true Sony HATERS because of the HD wars, and they are constantly bad mouthing Sony, the survivor, because of the failure of Toshiba to win the HD DVD wars and in most cases their rants and raves are unfair and unfounded. I'm a Sony user and advocator not because they "BEAT" Toshiba but because of their constant effort to bring new and better products to the HD viewing public, and isn't what we are all interested in. I'm willing to pay the higher price their products usually demand and I'm not suggesting everyone should do the same, but I do not rant and rave about Toshiba as a shitty company actually I feel they make many excellent products and both companies provide good service and support for their products. Would you simply stop watching HD disc and give up the ability to enjoy high quality movies because Toshiba didn't win I think that would be the proverbial "Cutting off your nose to spite your face" , case. I'm only suggesting you select the company of your choice and move on to the "Blu Side" get back to enjoy good viewing. IMO Da Rizz

Will i tryed to updat my Toshiba HD-A30 to 4.0 it stuck at step 4/4 and that was it. Wont do anything now called Toshiba and they are going to replace it.

hmmmm

The best new feature is the "resuming play after being paused for a long time" Thank GOODNESS Toshiba for fixing this problem. :yippee:

Now how about fixing and enabling us to stop a movie them play it back right where we left off.

Now how about fixing and enabling us to stop a movie them play it back right where we left off.

I think that is a function of the media and not the player as it does work with standard DVD's.

The best new feature is the "resuming play after being paused for a long time" Thank GOODNESS Toshiba for fixing this problem. :yippee:

Now how about fixing and enabling us to stop a movie them play it back right where we left off.

I think that is a function of the media and not the player as it does work with standard DVD's.

You are correct again L2W. The media has to have this feature enabled in the encoding of the movie.

A lot of these threads are maned by true Sony HATERS because of the HD wars, and they are constantly bad mouthing Sony, the survivor, because of the failure of Toshiba to win the HD DVD wars and in most cases their rants and raves are unfair and unfounded. I'm a Sony user and advocator not because they "BEAT" Toshiba but because of their constant effort to bring new and better products to the HD viewing public, and isn't what we are all interested in. I'm willing to pay the higher price their products usually demand and I'm not suggesting everyone should do the same, but I do not rant and rave about Toshiba as a shitty company actually I feel they make many excellent products and both companies provide good service and support for their products. Would you simply stop watching HD disc and give up the ability to enjoy high quality movies because Toshiba didn't win I think that would be the proverbial "Cutting off your nose to spite your face" , case. I'm only suggesting you select the company of your choice and move on to the "Blu Side" get back to enjoy good viewing. IMO Da Rizz

I am not a Sony hater nor do I bad mouth them but I do regularly recommend other brands that are comparable if not better. The reason I do this is because of Sony's proprietary nature and their efforts to monopolize the HD media and equipment market. But as you said, choose the product(s) of your choice and go with it whether it be Sony or another brand.

Yea, I like the resuming play after pause for a long time feature. So legit!

You are correct again L2W. The media has to have this feature enabled in the encoding of the movie.
Then are studios lazy for not adding this much needed feature? I think so.
I am not a Sony hater nor do I bad mouth them but I do regularly recommend other brands that are comparable if not better. The reason I do this is because of Sony's proprietary nature and their efforts to monopolize the HD media and equipment market. But as you said, choose the product(s) of your choice and go with it whether it be Sony or another brand.
Just think of SONY as INTEL. I really think they are both in bed with each other dreaming about Monopolizing the world to death :D

Then are studios lazy for not adding this much needed feature? I think so.

Just think of SONY as INTEL. I really think they are both in bed with each other dreaming about Monopolizing the world to death :D

So, after all of this time with your recommendation of HD DVD, a format with one hardware manufacturer and one company having great control of the licensing, you still continue to discuss Blu-ray as a Sony monopoly? Blu-ray has many companies building players with more planning on entering the market and I believe Sony is second in command behind Panasonic in terms of licensing control and revenue, but that is shared among many companies. It is true that Sony has the lion's share of the player market, but that is because the PS3 is an incredible bargain and the Sony standalone players are as well. Any company can compete and offer better players for less money, Blu-ray is highly competitive, and prices are dropping like a rock as a result.

I know tomorrow, some HD DVD supporter here will be critical of Sony and their "proprietary nature and their efforts to monopolize HD media" and another HD DVD supporter will join in and agree. I really don't expect you to make an effort towards posts that are logical and show even a vague understanding of what you are discussing at this late date, but this nonsense should really end at some point.

Chris

And I'm sorry Chris! Your post mentioning Blu-Ray served exactly what purpose in an HD DVD section and thread? :confused::what:

And I'm sorry Chris! Your post mentioning Blu-Ray served exactly what purpose in an HD DVD section and thread? :confused::what:

Have you read the OP?

Bet Sony wouldnt have done the same.

The thread is all about the format war and bashing/defending/praising Sony/Toshiba etc. :p

Have you read the OP?



The thread is all about the format war and bashing/defending/praising Sony/Toshiba etc. :p

You might note he didn't really have any contradiction to my points, which I believe are relevant to this thread, but just nonsense about me, as always, which is why he has been on ignore for a long time.

Chris

You might note he didn't really have any contradiction to my points, which I believe are relevant to this thread, but just nonsense about me, as always, which is why he has been on ignore for a long time.

Chris

You put everyone on ignore, including me, simply because these people do not agree with your OPINION. Until you realize the definition of the word opinion you will continue to make enemies here Chris. You can continue to use your fancy vocabulary and far too many commas in your sentences, but that doesn't make you anymore just or right because these our your opinions. I am also positive you will find a way to justify your overblown egotisical actions, but I will tell you that for your age you should be ashamed for your constant high-horse mentality.

You put everyone on ignore, including me, simply because these people do not agree with your OPINION. Until you realize the definition of the word opinion you will continue to make enemies here Chris. You can continue to use your fancy vocabulary and far too many commas in your sentences, but that doesn't make you anymore just or right because these our your opinions. I am also positive you will find a way to justify your overblown egotisical actions, but I will tell you that for your age you should be ashamed for your constant high-horse mentality.
AGREED!!!:cool:

And I'm sorry Chris! Your post mentioning Blu-Ray served exactly what purpose in an HD DVD section and thread? :confused::what:You seem to enjoy posting in the BD players forum despite not owning a BD player or planning on buying one.:haha: http://www.highdefforum.com/search.php?searchid=1337590&pp=25&page=7 Chris owns more HD DVD hardware and software than the majority of ToshBots running around. That should clear him to say whatever he feels if you can say whatever you feel, don't you think?

AGREED!!!:cool:

Too funny, all he had to offer once again were personal opinions about me, which you quoted. Why would I bother with that nonsense? The only members I have on ignore do the same as he does.

Chris

Too funny, all he had to offer once again were personal opinions about me, which you quoted. Why would I bother with that nonsense? The only members I have on ignore do the same as he does.

Chris

Yep, and there was your typical justification line; nothing new there. You never can own up to anything like a real man. I am willing to bet that regret, remorse, and sorry are not even in that extensive vocabulary you throw around here.

I do wish we could just stop this bickering, everyone understands everyone's opinions and stances, so why should anyone keep bringing up the same differences of opinion.

No one is going to change anyone's mind by constantly bringing the same old arguments/discussions up and repeating them.

I do wish we could just stop this bickering, everyone understands everyone's opinions and stances, so why should anyone keep bringing up the same differences of opinion.

No one is going to change anyone's mind by constantly bringing the same old arguments/discussions up and repeating them.

Well said.:yippee: That was my argument to Chris as well.

When do you think Toshiba will provide PAL playback support?

You seem to enjoy posting in the BD players forum despite not owning a BD player or planning on buying one.:haha: http://www.highdefforum.com/search.php?searchid=1337590&pp=25&page=7 Chris owns more HD DVD hardware and software than the majority of ToshBots running around. That should clear him to say whatever he feels if you can say whatever you feel, don't you think?
Ahh but that actually serves a purpose! ;) I asked Chris a legitimate question. And Chris can and frequently does answer for himself, don't ya think?:what:

Ahh but that actually serves a purpose! ;) I asked Chris a legitimate question. And Chris can and frequently does answer for himself, don't ya think?:what:Ha, the chances of Chris having you on ignore are high, I didn't want you to feel like no one cared about what you had to say.

Ha, the chances of Chris having you on ignore are high, I didn't want you to feel like no one cared about what you had to say.

He is on ignore, you can answer any questions from him directed at me if you wish.

Chris

I have received Ver 4.0 update disc for A-35 but not for A-3. Is there an unexpected delay on the latter?

I have received Ver 4.0 update disc for A-35 but not for A-3. Is there an unexpected delay on the latter?

Arbitrary delay would be my guess, you might get one before you get the other so I wouldn't be concerned. I got the HD-XA2 about 10 days or so before the HD-A30. I don't know how I got signed up for either really except that I requested firmware for my HD-A1 and subsequently registered the other models online but never requested firmware for those. I had a CD writer and software to write ISO files by the time I got the later models and I didn't want to burden Toshiba with mailing them to me.

Chris

Chris, thanks for your response. As I have noted, I have never been able to get the burned CD-R to read on the Toshibas but they work like a charm on the Panasonic Blu-rays. Same technique, same computer, same blank discs. Go figure.