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Cable company locked my outside box...

lionsanxiety
05-11-2005, 12:11 PM
Anyone out there know where I can get a tool for the stupid free spinning barrel lock they put on outside boxes? I have DirecTV, but the cable company just loves to lock my box. I don't want to break the box.

Thank you,

lionsanxiety

amf1932
05-11-2005, 12:17 PM
What you are trying to do is illegal!!! The only people that have access to this box are the cable company people.....as if you didn't know. :mad:

Alan

philhu
05-11-2005, 02:43 PM
What you are trying to do is illegal!!! The only people that have access to this box are the cable company people.....as if you didn't know. :mad:

Alan

No, I've seen this. DTV sometimes installs into the cable box, to get access to internal wiring, when the appt is a condo and the owner owns the box.

I've seen them locked like this during cable company line audits.

StereodB
05-11-2005, 03:54 PM
With all Legal issue aside, I know you can buy the part from Partsexpress.com I dont like the idea that I have someone elses property on my own, there for, as long as you are not stealing, whats wrong with having access... My understanding, is that all homes that have cable as an option, have the signal to their homes, and the cable provider puts in a blocker to prevent free access.

amf1932
05-11-2005, 04:34 PM
With all Legal issue aside, I know you can buy the part from Partsexpress.com I dont like the idea that I have someone elses property on my own, there for, as long as you are not stealing, whats wrong with having access... My understanding, is that all homes that have cable as an option, have the signal to their homes, and the cable provider puts in a blocker to prevent free access.
"Legal issues aside"? What you are saying then? You have the right to access the wires in the main terminal box that feeds yours or other apartments in a condo. I don't think so.
The telephone company and the electric company and gas company most always has their meter reading devices on your property, and you, by no means have the right to touch anything in that area. http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/chair.gif

Alan

retorq
05-11-2005, 05:06 PM
It's called a 'Right-Of -Way' or easement StereodB, if you don't like it you don't have to have cable run to your house, nor propane, gas, electric, phone or what ever else you have.

lionsanxiety
05-11-2005, 06:02 PM
This is the box that is solely for MY house. There is a box on the easement for other houses. They can easily cut the cable feed there and/or filter the output from there. The DirecTV installer went into my house box, so I don't see why this is a problem. I wouldn't care in every cable line was ripped out of the box to be honest. I am just pissed that they came through and locked it without permission or informing me. I am doing NOTHING illegal!

Monger
05-11-2005, 08:25 PM
I was jaywalking yesterday.

roulettewheel
05-11-2005, 08:39 PM
I spit on the sidewalk. Twice.

jerryg
05-11-2005, 08:42 PM
I'd like to get this clarified to. My house has four lines pre-wired into the house. Not surprisingly, they terminate on the outside at the cable box. There is a small distance of a few inches from the box to where the lines go through the brick. So, while I don't own the cable co's line coming "in", I assume I do own the four lines that go into the house. Obviously, it's easier to (re)utilize the lines with their existing connectors rather than re-splicing the house side.

The question is can the cable co. "hold hostage" the terminated house-side connectors by locking the box? (Which is essentially what is happening to lionsanxiety).

I assume they are within their rights to lock the box, but maybe they should move the house-side connector ends that don't belong to them "outside" of the box. The cable co. is surely quick to say they belong to the homeowner when there is a suspected problem (as the phone co. etc).

As lionsaxiety points out, if they want to remove signal on the line can't they do that at the junction box? It just seems that the homeowner should have some control over the lines on the house side of the splitter. I feel those cables belong to the home-owner to do with as they see fit, but I'm not a lawyer. However, wanting access doesn't necessarily mean something "illegal" is going on.

In fact, my box currently has no lock.

Phireman
05-11-2005, 09:21 PM
You'll need a "terminator tool" and can find one at any cable supply house.

Click (http://www.budcocable.com/)

Lanny
05-12-2005, 11:05 AM
Essentially, the box was installed by, and belongs to the cable company.

rudyusmc1980
05-12-2005, 07:15 PM
the lines are definitely yours. They do charge you to fix internal wiring, or there is a 'service plan' that charges you a monthly fee as insurance. Give me a break. what a rip off. If you don't want to break into the box, cut the exposed wires and terminate them. then make your own box and make the cable company ask you for access!! they would love that...

bruno1982
05-16-2005, 06:13 PM
Im a cable contractor and guys usually put a terminator on the groundblock because they are too lazy to go up the pole to disconnect, if dont want to break the box just get 2 paper clips not the thin one but the thicker ones bent them until they look like a stick and stick one on each side push them in while you turn the terminator, just keeping trying it will work. :hithere:

JohnDArc
10-13-2010, 04:10 PM
I was going to leave this forum alone but I can't so the first thing I have to say is "amf1932/Alan is utterly and completely wrong".

If you are in an apartment you technically dont have rights to the box unless specified by managment or owner of the apartment. If its on a house you own. you have full access to it because any 'physical service cancelation' is done are the nearest pole or node.

amf1932
10-13-2010, 06:26 PM
I was going to leave this forum alone but I can't so the first thing I have to say is "amf1932/Alan is utterly and completely wrong".

If you are in an apartment you technically dont have rights to the box unless specified by managment or owner of the apartment. If its on a house you own. you have full access to it because any 'physical service cancelation' is done are the nearest pole or node.
Sorry pal,
Understand that EVERY utility in your home is owned by each utility company, and you don't have the right to play inside those boxes that these companies provide!!
Legally, they could bring you to court on this matter and you're definitely going to lose. Speak to any attorney and they'll agree with me!!

Alan

HiDefRev
10-13-2010, 07:30 PM
So much for leaving a 5 year old post alone, huh ? :what:

OCgamer
10-14-2010, 07:46 AM
Anyone out there know where I can get a tool for the stupid free spinning barrel lock they put on outside boxes? I have DirecTV, but the cable company just loves to lock my box. I don't want to break the box.

Thank you,

lionsanxiety
LOL they did that to me! I defeated the lock a couple of times by prying it off. Finally I figured out that they dont get out of the truck to check it so as long as they see the lock on the front of the box they are fine with it. Key is to remove the backside hinges then you can enter from the back I drilled mine out. The box stays put because of the lock but the backside lifts up! Works

OCgamer
10-14-2010, 07:50 AM
With all Legal issue aside, I know you can buy the part from Partsexpress.com I dont like the idea that I have someone elses property on my own, there for, as long as you are not stealing, whats wrong with having access... My understanding, is that all homes that have cable as an option, have the signal to their homes, and the cable provider puts in a blocker to prevent free access.

I agree with you 100% anything that is put on my property I want access to. Hey if it catchs fire I want to be able to deal with it. As I dont think the cable company is going to come out to unlock the box when there is a problem with fire. I have also had to fix them as they stick up if you hit them with your lawn mower you dont want animals and bees getting in there. Much easier to fix the box yourself then to pay comcrap to come out and fix it for you.