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Pop up's??

kingsngiants
08-01-2008, 03:03 AM
:helpme Since the forums have been updated/moved or whatever was done, I am getting three pop ups on my blocker. It is annoying, each time I click or go back I hear them. Anyone know what they are? I am too afraid to unblock them....never know what might be lurking out there :D.

DoctorCAD
08-01-2008, 06:51 AM
Yea, and it slows the forum to a crawl now.

PFC5
08-01-2008, 12:04 PM
The slowdown involves Firefox only and it "might" be related to the popups. They have escalated the FF hanging issue and it is a top priority.

SOBAY310
08-01-2008, 12:33 PM
Here's what I get:

-With my Mac and Firefox: No Pop Ups
-With my XP based Laptop and Firefox: Pop Ups
-At work with Windows XP and IE: Pop Ups


Just in case it helps with the troubleshooting.

PFC5
08-01-2008, 12:36 PM
Here's what I get:

-With my Mac and Firefox: No Pop Ups
-With my XP based Laptop and Firefox: Pop Ups
-At work with Windows XP and IE: Pop Ups


Just in case it helps with the troubleshooting.

Are you getting FF hangs with with Mac? If not, the popups could be part of the hang problems with FF.

SOBAY310
08-01-2008, 12:51 PM
Are you getting FF hangs with with Mac? If not, the popups could be part of the hang problems with FF.

Nope. HDF works flawlessly on my Mac. No pop ups, hangs, nothing. Just good 'ol HDF. :bowdown:

PFC5
08-01-2008, 12:55 PM
Nope. HDF works flawlessly on my Mac. No pop ups, hangs, nothing. Just good 'ol HDF. :bowdown:

Then that means it just might be all the popups with the Windows version of FF could be causing the hanging with FF, but it could be it is hanging due to the popups or the blocking of said popups.

Thanks for helping to solve/troubleshoot the issue. :thumbsup:

anythingwt
08-01-2008, 01:59 PM
Nope. HDF works flawlessly on my Mac. No pop ups, hangs, nothing. Just good 'ol HDF. :bowdown:


Same story here. I'm using safari, but no issues at all with my Mac.

At work with IE the forum still has pop ups and freezes constantly.

At home on my PC I get no pop ups cause of a blocker but its still slow.

On my roommates computer with firefox its kind of slow, but not as bad as my experience with IE.

Its weird.

IB-Dick
08-01-2008, 07:59 PM
Same story here. I'm using safari, but no issues at all with my Mac.

At work with IE the forum still has pop ups and freezes constantly.

At home on my PC I get no pop ups cause of a blocker but its still slow.

On my roommates computer with firefox its kind of slow, but not as bad as my experience with IE.

Its weird.

Us Mac users have it so good!

mytime
08-01-2008, 09:16 PM
It's weird. Laptop with Vista home premium no troubles. Desktop with Vista home Basic , Hangs bad.

anythingwt
08-01-2008, 09:57 PM
Us Mac users have it so good!



Indeed.

Random question, are you familiar with bit torrent? I have a question.. If you know anything about it Ill just PM you.

PFC5
08-01-2008, 11:50 PM
It's weird. Laptop with Vista home premium no troubles. Desktop with Vista home Basic , Hangs bad.

That sounds more like an IE security setting as the likely cause on the desktop. Check to see if the settings match the laptop settings. I think popups might be part of the cause so check those settings on the two machines as well.

kingsngiants
08-01-2008, 11:57 PM
I am using windows XP SP2, w/ IE, I don't experience slowdown, just that annoying blocking sound that is made, 3x consectutivley. It will drive a man crazy!!!!!!!!!! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

DoctorCAD
08-02-2008, 07:23 AM
Opera hangs all the time.

PIE on Windows Mobile gets no pop ups but still hangs occasionly.

HDMann
08-02-2008, 07:36 AM
That sounds more like an IE security setting as the likely cause on the desktop. Check to see if the settings match the laptop settings. I think popups might be part of the cause so check those settings on the two machines as well.

I have pop ups bocked through IE and I havent seen any.
No slow downs!

IE 7.0.5730

I am using Iwon Popup Blocker. IE PB is OFF

PFC5
08-02-2008, 10:27 AM
I am using windows XP SP2, w/ IE, I don't experience slowdown, just that annoying blocking sound that is made, 3x consectutivley. It will drive a man crazy!!!!!!!!!! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

It is important to also include the IE version as well because I think some versions are hanging and some are not.

Funny thing about you stating that you hear the popup blocking sound 3 times, as I have noticed when Firefox hangs, if I reclick a link 3 times it then goes through and gets past the hang point except with SUBMIT or SAVE button clicks. I see there being a possible connection since I am blocking popups with Firefox version 2.0.0.16.

I think the popups likely play a part here so hopefully they can look into this aspect as the possible problem or a contributing factor.

IB-Dick
08-04-2008, 11:39 AM
Indeed.

Random question, are you familiar with bit torrent? I have a question.. If you know anything about it Ill just PM you.

I know my way around bit torrents, lol. But, ssssshhhh......

It is important to also include the IE version as well because I think some versions are hanging and some are not.

Funny thing about you stating that you hear the popup blocking sound 3 times, as I have noticed when Firefox hangs, if I reclick a link 3 times it then goes through and gets past the hang point except with SUBMIT or SAVE button clicks. I see there being a possible connection since I am blocking popups with Firefox version 2.0.0.16.

I think the popups likely play a part here so hopefully they can look into this aspect as the possible problem or a contributing factor.

The hanging was going on before the pop-ups were added to the site.

PFC5
08-04-2008, 02:34 PM
Thanks for clearing that as possibly being an issue. ;)

IB-Dick
08-04-2008, 03:18 PM
If you want me to clear up the issue further, you can check out this page: http://www.highdefforum.com/test.html

It's a static html page. It doesn't load any external scripts or images. If you refresh, it hangs. That means that it's not the ads, it's not the vB software, and it's not the popups. It's some configuration problem with the server that is browser specific. That should make it pretty easy to figure out, considering that there are only a handful of things that could fit..... still, it's obviously not that easy.

rbinck
08-04-2008, 03:46 PM
That page loaded and refreshes instantly for me. Strange page.

IB-Dick
08-04-2008, 05:41 PM
That page loaded and refreshes instantly for me. Strange page.

You'll have to do an Ctrl+F5 refresh a bunch of times to get it to hang, but it will. It's about as consistant of a hang as the rest of the site is at times.

rbinck
08-04-2008, 06:01 PM
I gave it at least 20 and never hung for me. Maybe that's telling something.

PFC5
08-04-2008, 08:35 PM
If you want me to clear up the issue further, you can check out this page: http://www.highdefforum.com/test.html

It's a static html page. It doesn't load any external scripts or images. If you refresh, it hangs. That means that it's not the ads, it's not the vB software, and it's not the popups. It's some configuration problem with the server that is browser specific. That should make it pretty easy to figure out, considering that there are only a handful of things that could fit..... still, it's obviously not that easy.

That page loaded and refreshes instantly for me. Strange page.

You'll have to do an Ctrl+F5 refresh a bunch of times to get it to hang, but it will. It's about as consistant of a hang as the rest of the site is at times.

I gave it at least 20 and never hung for me. Maybe that's telling something.

That TEST page loaded much faster than the forum pages do, and what I had hoped for the new servers as well.

I held down the shift key and hit RELOAD (the IE Ctrl+F5 equivalent for FF) on that page and there was a VERY brief hesitation every third time, which goes with what I am finding when FF hangs . If I click a link or button 3 times it usually snaps to attention. The only time this does not work is with EDIT saves and SUBMIT POST buttons. I also find that if I hit these buttons before the whole page loads it usually works much sooner and sometimes without hanging.

I do not know if this helps troubleshoot the problem but this is what I have noticed. If I had to put a number on how much faster that test page loads I would say about 50 times faster when it hangs and 100 times faster when it doesn't hang. Yeah, it reloads that fast even with Firefox.

Hope this helps!

rbinck
08-05-2008, 10:15 AM
This morning I get this much before a very short delay:


Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Fusce pharetra elementum risus. Maecenas lectus ligula, consequat ultrices, commodo eu, tempor in, tortor. Praesent fermentum iaculis orci. Vivamus felis dolor, faucibus ac, vestibulum at, ultrices ultrices, ligula. Phasellus ac nulla nec nunc volutpat fringilla. Aliquam erat volutpat. Morbi pellentesque, nunc sed aliquam vehicula, nunc lacus elementum nunc, non aliquet tortor dolor eu risus. Duis consequat, nisi porta tempus porta, mauris nibh pulvinar libero, sit amet tincidunt purus enim sit amet massa. Integer iaculis felis et nunc. Nam augue sem, pulvinar ut, semper eget, sollicitudin vitae, felis.
Proin sodales. Praesent pretium elementum lacus. Donec cursus iaculis enim. Morbi at purus ac arcu aliquam sagittis. Praesent vitae turpis. Pellentesque pellentesque urna a elit. Sed dignissim malesuada neque. Nunc nec nisi vitae metus interdum facilisis. Etiam sit amet nisl ut purus dictum eleifend. Cras vestibulum pretium justo. Nullam a tortor. Nunc vitae quam eu velit ullamcorper consectetuer.
Pellentesque eleifend erat ac nunc. Quisque a ipsum in sem euismod convallis. Donec hendrerit. Aliquam a magna. Curabitur fringilla quam sed turpis. Curabitur tellus. Donec a mauris nec dui gravida mollis. Fusce scelerisque consequat mi. Pellentesque convallis, tortor at lobortis bibendum, tortor ipsum fringilla libero, et condimentum ante orci vel eros. Suspendisse potenti. Etiam accumsan ante in nisi. Proin ante enim, malesuada eget, euismod vitae, cursus non, dui. Vestibulum nulla nibh, luctus non, ullamcorper id, vulputate eu, tellus. Vivamus fringilla, nisl vitae molestie pharetra, dolor elit imperdiet felis, nec hendrerit nisl urna et justo. Mauris volutpat ultrices sem. Proin sollicitudin sollicitudin turpis.
Donec id dolor sit amet dolor rhoncus faucibus. Maecenas lectus. Nullam metus felis, hendrerit a, eleifend at, blandit non, urna. Sed sollicitudin, nisi ut elementum lobortis, libero dui lacinia ante, quis molestie justo diam ut neque. Sed non nisi sit amet elit pulvinar mattis. Aliquam erat volutpat. Nulla sollicitudin nibh ac dui. Quisque lorem enim, blandit vel, fringilla ac, commodo non, massa. Ut molestie magna eget dolor. Sed risus. Fusce semper purus vehicula sem. Nam sit amet lorem. Pellentesque sed libero suscipit lacus lobortis eleifend. Vivamus viverra egestas felis.
Donec dolor. Mauris ac ipsum eu erat congue laoreet. Donec urna. Maecenas justo justo, pharetra tincidunt, vulputate non, bibendum pellentesque, sem. Suspendisse nec nisl. Nulla faucibus accumsan nunc. Sed placerat vehicula leo. Duis sed dolor quis neque imperdiet venenatis. Praesent velit magna, mattis

The delay seems to be less than a second, then the remaining page pops up.

IB-Dick
08-05-2008, 10:58 AM
I gave it at least 20 and never hung for me. Maybe that's telling something.

It tells me that you're not trying hard enough!

This morning I get this much before a very short delay:


The delay seems to be less than a second, then the remaining page pops up.

When the page starts to load and then pauses and then finishes loading, that's not the issue we're dealing with. We're dealing with the page failing to even begin loading for a while. It's refered as "first byte load time". Basically, there's a problem with the browser starting the flow of data from the server, for whatever reason. That's where the problem is lying. Once it makes the connection, it's good.

The first time I loaded that test page it took over three minutes. I had to refresh the page probably 200 times to get it to hang again, and that time it did it for 5.8 minutes (Gotta love the YSlow plugin). It doesn't do it all the time, but it does it... which tells us that it had to be internal.