molarszbt18 07-29-2008, 11:23 PM Hello,
I have a room and I am curious if I can get a projector to work, cost is not a factor.
I want a 16 x 9 screen or viewable area and the furthest wall is 12-13 from that viewing wall. I do not want it any closer, 12-13 feet only.
Is there a way to accomplish this? I will be sending HDMI and Blue ray to this projector.
Please help! Again cost not an issue
Blu-Jawa 07-30-2008, 12:53 AM there is some info at this page (http://www.projectorpeople.com/resources/short-throw.asp).
borromini 07-30-2008, 08:01 AM That distance is doable...no problem. For home theaters projectors, that's not considered a short throw. Short throws would be anything less than 10'.
molarszbt18 07-30-2008, 06:03 PM That distance is doable...no problem. For home theaters projectors, that's not considered a short throw. Short throws would be anything less than 10'.
Who makes one that does exactly that?
rbinck 07-30-2008, 07:26 PM Who makes one that does exactly that?Just about any of them will do that. The image size just gets smaller and the picture gets brighter. You need to look at the projector throw calculator at projector central.
Here's one for the Mitts ES100U: http://www.projectorcentral.com/Mitsubishi-ES100U_ColorView-projection-calculator-pro.htm
At 10 feet that PJ will produce a 65" wide image with 86 fl on a 16:9 screen with 1.0 gain. To get a larger image you would need to add a short throw lense.
molarszbt18 07-30-2008, 10:52 PM That does not work. The dimensions are in " and I need feet. Even when I move that projector to 12-13 feet the overall viewing is very tiny
borromini 07-30-2008, 11:55 PM What screen size are you looking to achieve?
molarszbt18 07-31-2008, 07:01 AM What screen size are you looking to achieve?
a 16 feet x 9 feet image is what I am after
borromini 07-31-2008, 07:55 AM What are the dimensions of your room and how many people will it hold? When you said 16x9 in your original post, it came across as the aspect ratio you wanted since you didn't note "feet" after the numbers.
In that case, you will no doubt need short throw lens to have a remote shot at reaching that size. Check out this link and filter your choices with a throw distance of 13 feet and a diagonal size of 220 inches.
http://www.projectorcentral.com/projectors.cfm
You'll find out that in order to get a 16'x9' image, which is approx. 220 inches diagonal...there are no home theater projectors available that will give you that size at a 12 to 13 foot distance.
I think you need to revise your screen size or have the projector pointing in the other direction of the room if that's possible. Either way, it doesn't sound like you will get the image size you want unless you can increase your throw distance significantly.
rbinck 07-31-2008, 08:45 AM Also for that screen size you will need a projector with a lot of lumens even with a short throw lense.
Poorboy 07-31-2008, 04:26 PM I'm sorry if I am not of help, do not want to seam rude here, but you state the farthest wall is 13 feet away. We run our pj at half that size and feel 20 to 30 feet away is a good veiwing distance.
Just having a problem myself trying to imagine that large a screen so close. Will keep an eye on this to see how you like it. Good Luck.
molarszbt18 07-31-2008, 11:00 PM Thanks for all your help.
Yes the screen size is 16" X 9" sorry about that, but I am also going to be using an aspect ratio of 16:9 as well.
Is there anyone that does a custom lens? I can get a short throw projector but then order a lens? Again cost means nothing to me.
Also I was thinking 3500 lumens and up should be fine right?
borromini 08-01-2008, 01:55 AM Don't know of any outfit that develops custom lenses as an after-market service. The manufacturer of each projector usually provides the long/short throw lenses.
I don't think you're going to find a custom solution
rbinck 08-01-2008, 11:23 AM The last custom lense we ordered was about $2,200. If that's of interest to you I can look up the source.
molarszbt18 08-01-2008, 06:24 PM The last custom lense we ordered was about $2,200. If that's of interest to you I can look up the source.
SURE!
rbinck 08-01-2008, 09:24 PM I think we got it from Projector Point. Here is the link: http://www.projectorpoint.com/comparison.php?category=Lenses
To view a 16'x9' image, which is approx. 220 inches diagonal; you need to be around 30 feet from the screen to watch a 1080 HD feed.
rbinck 08-02-2008, 06:28 PM To view a 16'x9' image, which is approx. 220 inches diagonal; you need to be around 30 feet from the screen to watch a 1080 HD feed.
First welcome to HDF.
I'm not sure of the basis for this? What did you have in mind?
Thanks.
That's the optimal viewing distance for that size.
rbinck 08-03-2008, 10:55 AM Optimal is different that the wording used of what he would need. I don't know about optimal, I suppose it depends on which calculator you use. This one says the recommended is more like 25 feet: http://myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html that's usually based on viewing angles rather than resolution.
Most calculators will talk about maximum viewing distance and few talk about minimum needed viewing distance. Then there are the rules of thumb. This guy has a spreadsheet: Home Theater Calculator spreadsheet (http://www.carltonbale.com/home-theater/home-theater-calculator/) and his conclusions here: 1080p Does Matter - Here's When (Screen Size vs. Viewing Distance ... (http://www.carltonbale.com/2006/11/1080p-does-matter/) indicates that at 16 feet people will see a benifit of 1080p vs 720p projectors, which would lead me to conclude that the distance needed would be somewhat less than 16 feet.
Not trying to be argumentitave, but rather to clear up the wording of the distance one would need for 1080p projection. I do think the screen is too large for the room he has and once he fills the screen up by buying a very expensive lense, the picture will be too dim. Hopefully this thread will help in his installation.
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