Xbox 360 Netflix streaming announced.

Microsoft just announced Netflix streaming on Xbox 360 during its press conference.

You get HD movie streaming on Xbox 360 when Netflix turns HD streaming on.

Microsoft just announced Netflix streaming on Xbox 360 during its press conference.

You get HD movie streaming on Xbox 360 when Netflix turns HD streaming on.

:yippee:

Glad I saw this...was just about to post it too.

This saves me $100 on the (Roku?) box.

Can we have a link?

At Microsoft's press conference this morning, it was announced that Netflix will be streaming movies over Xbox Live for all existing customers. This means you can stream movies as part of your already existing account over your Xbox on your big-screen tv. Not only that, but by using the new Live Party option, you can watch these streaming movies with your friends, and they don't even have to have a Netflix account of their own. That's pretty sweet. That's all we know for now, but we'll keep you posted when more details drop.



http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/687011/Netflix_Streaming_Movies_On_Xbox_Live.html

g4 is all over E3 and have been updating their blog from the MS conference. It's pretty safe to say this is legit. I am surprised that friends can watch too from another console without the Netflix subscription.

Assuming you don't need to keep a certain level of membership, maybe I can drop back down to the "1 at a time plan"....right now I am on 3 at a time, but I just sent one back having had the movies for 3-7 weeks. I am just not finding as much time.

Can we have a link?

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tab=wn&q=Xbox+360+netflix&scoring=n

Netflix streaming is Xbox 360 exclusive, PS3 users cannot have it.

But I don't see anything having to do with HD in any of those announcements.

Did I miss something?

Is this the right Forum to post this?

But I don't see anything having to do with HD in any of those announcements.

Did I miss something?

Is this the right Forum to post this?
Netflix will enable HD streaming once their service is ready. They are working on it.

Two biggest losers from this announcement.

1. Apple TV
2. PS3

I'm sure HD will happen with Netflix and the 360 since Netlix has said that HD will happen with the Roku player. I'm still happy with the announcement HD or not.

Offering new Xbox 360 interface, growing Netflix presence

Microsoft makes play for casual gamers

By George T. Chronis -- Video Business, 7/14/2008
JULY 14 | LOS ANGELES—For those used to the thumping of chests about hardcore action videogames such as Halo 3 and Gears of War, this year at E3, Microsoft Entertainment is pumping social cred instead of bullets.

On Monday morning, Microsoft led the big announcements of show week with what it calls a complete relaunch of the Xbox 360 platform. Current 20GB-hard-drive models have been discounted $50 to $299 and will be phased out in favor of a new 60GB-hard-drive version, priced at $349. Plus, the new models will have a new, more user-friendly interface.

"Our focus is now on the social experience," said Aaron Greenberg, Microsoft director of product management told VB after a media briefing here.

Microsoft's partnership with Netflix also will go live with a new interface. Netflix offerings will be presented via 3D retail box art.

Greenberg said Netflix will add 10,000 titles, doubling the amount of film and TV content available from Xbox Live to 20,000 titles total.

For now, users have to subscribe to Netflix separately, but the goal is for Xbox Live users to be able to subscribe to Netflix's service within Xbox Live in the future.

Greenberg doesn't see the Netflix association cannibalizing other studio content available on Xbox Live. He said Netflix content is presented in standard-definition only, while studio content is primarily in high-definition.

Microsoft also announced that it will add another 700 new video titles from the studios.

To further the new social positioning for its console, Microsoft this fall will promote what it is calling Xbox Live Primetime, a melding of game show reality TV and videogames.

The first title available on Xbox Live, One vs. a Hundred, will have a live host during primetime hours and feature real-time competition by players seen as their avatars.

Microsoft also is betting heavily on music games and will get an exclusive window on Electronic Arts' Rock Bands 2.

A new first-party music title being developed in Japan is called Lips. The game will ship with two wireless motion-sensing microphones. This singing competition game features pop, hip-hop, rock, country and R&B songs heavily localized to each national market. Players also will be able to upload their own MP3s into the game.

You're In the Movies, a movie-themed exclusive game from Codemasters, will arrive for the holidays bundled with the new Xbox Live Vision camera and will allow users to create their own video clips, which can be uploaded to social Web sites such as YouTube.

Microsoft’s change of focus can be attributed to the success of the Nintendo Wii and the Sony PlayStation 3's edge in music and social gaming in Europe. Microsoft is prioritizing Europe, Greenberg pointed out, so the new interface built around 3D avatars that gamers can customize plus a more user-friendly interface are expected to play better to the less-hardcore sensibilities on the continent.

"Gamers were able to navigate to the downloadable content on Xbox Live, but we wanted to make it easier for new gamers to jump in and find that content," Greenberg said.

The new all-3D interface will be available this fall as an online update or via game disc. Microsoft's Rare studio has created the avatar system, which presents acute player presentations in game and Xbox Live social settings.

These avatars also will be integrated into upcoming games, including new versions of Guitar Hero, where gamers will be able to unlock special costumes for their avatars.
http://www.videobusiness.com/article/CA6578609.html

Greenberg doesn't see the Netflix association cannibalizing other studio content available on Xbox Live. He said Netflix content is presented in standard-definition only, while studio content is primarily in high-definition.
So will Microsoft not permit HD Netflix streaming when it becomes available? I doubt it.

BTW, Xbox 360 does get exclusive console rights to Netflix streaming, PS3 and Wii cannot have it.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/07/14/business/NA-US-Microsoft-Netflix.php

So will Microsoft not permit HD Netflix streaming when it becomes available? I doubt it.

You may doubt it all you want - but it may not come to pass - especially as NF is pushing "their own" STB which does have HD capabilities.

The 360 may only get SD streamed movies.

You may doubt it all you want - but it may not come to pass - especially as NF is pushing their own STB which does have HD capabilities.
Netflix doesn't have its own brand set top boxes, it just signed a bunch of cooperation agreements with a number of set top manufacturers(Roku, LG, and now Microsoft) and is providing all the documentation necessary to develop compatible product.

So are these netflix downloads free via xbl? If not, Ill still be keep my 9.95 a month through netflix.com

Netflix doesn't have its own brand set top boxes, it just signed a bunch of cooperation agreements with a number of set top manufacturers(Roku, LG, and now Microsoft) and is providing all the documentation necessary to develop compatible product.

Oops . . forgot the quotes . . . "their own"

Fixed original post.

You may doubt it all you want - but it may not come to pass - especially as NF is pushing their own STB which does have HD capabilities.

The 360 may only get SD streamed movies.


I know this saves me from buying the Roku STB as I would rather use my 360 for this and save $100 and from having to add yet another component to my setup which would in turn add more cables and more headache..

So long as their offerings differ from each other I see no reason why NF would not put or I should say Microsift allow for NF to offer HD viewing.. Of course this is just me speculating so take it for what its worth :2cents :lol:

So are these netflix downloads free via xbl? If not, Ill still be keep my 9.95 a month through netflix.com
You need two things.

1. Xbox Live Gold Subscription.($50 a year)
2. Netflix subscription.($9 a month)

If you have a Netflix subscription worth more than $9, then you can watch your Netflix movies on any device you like, be it PC, Roku, or Xbox 360.

You cannot watch Netflix movies on PS3 and Wii as Microsoft has console exclusive streaming rights.

You need two things.

1. Xbox Live Gold Subscription.($50 a year)
2. Netflix subscription.($9 a month)

If you have a Netflix subscription worth more than $9, then you can watch your Netflix movies on any device you like, be it PC, Roku, or Xbox 360.

You cannot watch Netflix movies on PS3 and Wii as Microsoft has console exclusive streaming rights.

Cool, this is a nice feature (though I dont think its everything you think it is). PSN is launching their own movie service this summer sometime, and netflix on demand doesnt have the greatest selection but I already subscribe, so no more using the htpc to watch netflix.com :banana:

Question: Does NetFlix have "Their own" content that is somehow different from the studio's content? Did I read that correctly? :confused:

Microsoft just announced Netflix streaming on Xbox 360 during its press conference.

You get HD movie streaming on Xbox 360 when Netflix turns HD streaming on.

It may not make much of a difference. With Comcast and TWC planning on going to hard caps and overage fees for their broadband services, it's going to kill this kind of streaming all together. Esp. if TWC goes ahead with it's 5gb per month basic tier level.

The Xbox Live Video Marketplace is the worlds largest Video on Demand service (Including Digital Cable, Satellite, etc services).

You can bring a group of friends with you (via their new dashboard update) and can all watch the movie together. (Like with the Harry Potter HD DVD) the difference being only one person has to have a copy of the movie.


http://formatwarcentral.com/index.php/2008/07/14/e3-08-microsofts-announcments/#more-903

An interesting service, but will this function outside the US?

Also, the content to choose from in the Netflix 'watch it now' section is usually Full Screen 4:3, and 2.0 stereo audio.

Wake me up when they are streaming every movie day and date in HD with 5.1 surround. Hell, I'd settle for Dolby Vanilla Digital.

I agree with Dr. Jones and Kamspy its not going to be a big deal at all especially since Dead Meat made the topic the 360 fan boy that he is. I would rather buy Blu-Ray or even rent Blu-Ray from netflix then to waste my cap limit that I most likely have on comcast. I mean I got in trouble downloading 400 gb one month downloading HD would be way more bandwidth every month cable companies aren't going to like it and will not let that happen.

I agree with Dr. Jones and Kamspy its not going to be a big deal at all
Netflix share price is up. Market thinks it's a big deal that Netflix has access to 11 million Xbox 360 users in USA.

I would rather buy Blu-Ray or even rent Blu-Ray from netflix then to waste my cap limit that I most likely have on comcast.
People like you are a minority. Convenience is the name of the game, and nothing beats streaming in convenience.

Netflix share price is up. Market thinks it's a big deal that Netflix has access to 11 million Xbox 360 users in USA.


People like you are a minority. Convenience is the name of the game, and nothing beats streaming in convenience.

I and others buy/rent Blu-ray because they want to see their movies in the best way possible, streaming over internet, you're not even going to get DVD quality why should we downgrade our expectation of our movie experience just so we don't have to go to the movie store for 5 minutes?

and the thing about streaming is the people getting the cap is increasing it's a growing trend among ISP's even if that wasn't an issue, you're looking at the other failing of streaming, I don't get a permanent copy, I'm a movie collector, Blu-ray allows me to collect movies, just like DVD did. so why are you cheering on something that fails on 2 counts?

I and others buy/rent Blu-ray because they want to see their movies in the best way possible, streaming over internet, you're not even going to get DVD quality why should we downgrade our expectation of our movie experience just so we don't have to go to the movie store for 5 minutes?

and the thing about streaming is the people getting the cap is increasing it's a growing trend among ISP's even if that wasn't an issue, you're looking at the other failing of streaming, I don't get a permanent copy, I'm a movie collector, Blu-ray allows me to collect movies, just like DVD did. so why are you cheering on something that fails on 2 counts?


Well said, Beta-guy, and welcome to HDF! :hithere:

This streaming option is cool, but wont offer the quality of BD, and also wont offer the luxury of being able to own a hard copy of the movie with HD audio and video. In this market, some will love it and take advantage of the service, but the masses aren't ready to transfer completely from physical media to downloads.

It may not make much of a difference. With Comcast and TWC planning on going to hard caps and overage fees for their broadband services, it's going to kill this kind of streaming all together. Esp. if TWC goes ahead with it's 5gb per month basic tier level.

The FCC is putting pressure on all HSI providers to stop this practice. Right now I don't know how much they can stop them from doing so but cable companies and telcoms are smart enough to know not to piss off the FCC.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080711/wr_nm/media_comcast_dc_1

Just like BD and HD DVD were brand new a few years ago so is this. The fact that so many companies are trying to get into this should tell you something, it's not likely to fail. It will mature just like speeds of the net will increase as needed. Will this be a big threat to BD, I don't know.

What I do know is I look forward to the day that I have access to an unlimited list of movies only a click away for $10 a month. I look forward to the day that all these movies will be in HD equal to what cable companies provide right now and in time will equal BD. The only movies I'll buy are the ones I really want.

Well said, Beta-guy, and welcome to HDF! :hithere:

This streaming option is cool, but wont offer the quality of BD, and also wont offer the luxury of being able to own a hard copy of the movie with HD audio and video. In this market, some will love it and take advantage of the service, but the masses aren't ready to transfer completely from physical media to downloads.

If you read Lee's post about NEC's new SOC that had HDD support you have to ask why. Clearly this isn't going to be used in the PS3 and BD's have no use for a HDD. So why add it?

I thought I read somewhere that Panny and LG are working on BD players that can also stream movies. They most likely will be adding a HDD to serve as a buffer or to store a movie for later playback, unsure at this time.

I'm also sure that the list of people who people who said the public wouldn't be ready to drop CD's and only buy digital versions of songs. Sure there are those who try to say it's different because you can buy only one song and that's why that's different.

But video streaming is the rental market. No more going to the store, no more waiting for the mail. A future of just click and watch is something that has appeal, just not to those who want the very best in picture and sound, or about (my guess) 5% of the masses.

If you read Lee's post about NEC's new SOC that had HDD support you have to ask why. Clearly this isn't going to be used in the PS3 and BD's have no use for a HDD. So why add it?

I thought I read somewhere that Panny and LG are working on BD players that can also stream movies. They most likely will be adding a HDD to serve as a buffer or to store a movie for later playback, unsure at this time.

I'm also sure that the list of people who people who said the public wouldn't be ready to drop CD's and only buy digital versions of songs. Sure there are those who try to say it's different because you can buy only one song and that's why that's different.

But video streaming is the rental market. No more going to the store, no more waiting for the mail. A future of just click and watch is something that has appeal, just not to those who want the very best in picture and sound, or about (my guess) 5% of the masses.


I was talking about this with Lee the other day. The number of people who want the best picture and sound is going to naturally start going up. HDTV is the new fad, so after someone drops a couple thousand dollars on a new HDTV, their gonna want to get as much HD content as they can get. Yes, some may not understand the concept at first, but once they start viewing HD at home, I see people becoming somewhat "addicted" to it. They wont want to watch SD anymore.. ESPECIALLY the people who buy big screens and hook up their old $30 wal-mart progressive scan DVD player, with composite cables. They will then be looking to upgrade because their DVDs now look like crap on their 50" screen, they go to BB, and voila! There is BD being advertised everywhere, and it looks 1,000 x's better than what their crap DVD player can accomplish. :2cents

Links here (http://www.allaboutvision.com/eye-doctor/) and here (http://webportal.audiology.org/Custom/FindAnAudiologist.aspx) for those interested in streaming Netflix onto their HDTV.;)

And this coming from a Netflix fanbot.:hithere:

Links here (http://www.allaboutvision.com/eye-doctor/) and here (http://webportal.audiology.org/Custom/FindAnAudiologist.aspx) for those interested in streaming Netflix onto their HDTV.;)

And this coming from a Netflix fanbot.:hithere:


:roflmao:

If you read Lee's post about NEC's new SOC that had HDD support you have to ask why. Clearly this isn't going to be used in the PS3 and BD's have no use for a HDD. So why add it?

I thought I read somewhere that Panny and LG are working on BD players that can also stream movies. They most likely will be adding a HDD to serve as a buffer or to store a movie for later playback, unsure at this time.

I'm also sure that the list of people who people who said the public wouldn't be ready to drop CD's and only buy digital versions of songs. Sure there are those who try to say it's different because you can buy only one song and that's why that's different.

But video streaming is the rental market. No more going to the store, no more waiting for the mail. A future of just click and watch is something that has appeal, just not to those who want the very best in picture and sound, or about (my guess) 5% of the masses.

Problem is people generally stick with what they know, they know disc formats like DVD/BD. I'm a computer technician, and I had to deal with a customer that got confused by using a different image viewer, I get questions about very simplistic things surrounding computers, I've had to walk users around how to use their computer over the phone, you expect the masses to jump on the movie streaming bandwagon? Only the intermediate or higher experienced users would know or/be interested in streaming video's. If the quality isn't equal to or better than DVD, I expect this streaming nonsense to go away. Because DVD is known and comfortable to the user, and supplies a better quality A/V experience.

Problem is people generally stick with what they know, they know disc formats like DVD/BD. I'm a computer technician, and I had to deal with a customer that got confused by using a different image viewer, I get questions about very simplistic things surrounding computers, I've had to walk users around how to use their computer over the phone, you expect the masses to jump on the movie streaming bandwagon? Only the intermediate or higher experienced users would know or/be interested in streaming video's. If the quality isn't equal to or better than DVD, I expect this streaming nonsense to go away. Because DVD is known and comfortable to the user, and supplies a better quality A/V experience.

I believe that you gave totally ignored the HD content providers. VOD is HUGE and getting bigger everyday.

And we can see from the last 3 years that people are not clamouring to buy optical discs. The growth of DVD stopped before HDM ever came out - and the growth of rentals zoomed ahead.

By the end of this year the CST's will have about 100 HD channels to offer HDTV owners and HD On Demand (VOD). "Content is king" was always the mantra of the BD fans.

So who is going to have the most HD content by the end of 2008?

Well said, Beta-guy, and welcome to HDF! :hithere:

This streaming option is cool, but wont offer the quality of BD, and also wont offer the luxury of being able to own a hard copy of the movie with HD audio and video. In this market, some will love it and take advantage of the service, but the masses aren't ready to transfer completely from physical media to downloads.

I really like the streaming option. As a Netflix subscriber and 360 owner, it's free, so I am not losing anything. I can choose not to stream if I want. I realize the quality won't be HD, but of the 288 movies in my queue right now, 76 of them are available in HD (both Blu and HDDVD). It also gives me the option to "preview" movies. We've all gotten movies before that get a lot of hype and you rent it (or "blind" buy it) and you want to shut it off after 20 minutes (Superbad and Babel come to mind for me). This service will allow you to start watching a movie available for streaming and let you decide if it's worth getting the actual disc or not.

The other thing I really like is the ablility to watch with friends over XBL. I have 2 main gaming friends who each have a 360. One friend is an hour north of me and one is an hour south. XBL allows us to still game together and this service has the potential to allow us to watch movies together. We'll see how practical it is after the service is launched.

Overall I think it is a brilliant move on the part of MS and Netflix. If you collect movies, you will still collect them and if you only rent HD media then you don't have to use the service. But if you have both Netlix and a 360, you are going to at least try it no matter what.


why should we downgrade our expectation of our movie experience just so we don't have to go to the movie store for 5 minutes?


Beta, I am not disputing your post, it's just this comment that doesn't make sense to me. If you are using Netflix, odds are you are not going to a video store. If you have a 1 out at a time plan at Netlix, the streaming option might be good while you wait for your next movie.

So will Microsoft not permit HD Netflix streaming when it becomes available? I doubt it.

BTW, Xbox 360 does get exclusive console rights to Netflix streaming, PS3 and Wii cannot have it.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/07/14/business/NA-US-Microsoft-Netflix.php

I don't, why would they want to stop people spending Microsoft points on HD movies by letting them have them for free if they are netflix subscribers? I think they'd only look at upping to HD if their rivals started offering a similar.

I don't, why would they want to stop people spending Microsoft points on HD movies by letting them have them for free if they are netflix subscribers?
There are non-Netflix subscribers.

The whole point of this announcement is to firmly establish Xbox 360 as the center of living room, and drive people AWAY FROM PS3 by any means necessary. Get people used to streaming and downloading, and make them forget about optical discs. This is why Toshiba CEO stated that he saw downloading as the only successor to DVD and why Toshiba was betting everything on downloading strategy, completely bypassing Blu-Ray.

I think they'd only look at upping to HD if their rivals started offering a similar.
Microsoft has console exclusivity on Netflix streaming. The only thing Sony can do now is to sign a similar streaming deal with Blockbuster.

Has anyone else noticed this forum is going backwards? Doesn't anyone appreciate quality HD anymore? What's the next step? I'll tell you- 480i 1.33:1 b&w movies!!!!!!!!! F*ck yeah!!! Retro is not just about fashion and music anymore. Let's all throw our HDTVs in a big pile and burn it to the ground!!! :banana:

There are non-Netflix subscribers.

The whole point of this announcement is to firmly establish Xbox 360 as the center of living room, and drive people AWAY FROM PS3 by any means necessary. Get people used to streaming and downloading, and make them forget about optical discs. This is why Toshiba CEO stated that he saw downloading as the only successor to DVD and why Toshiba was betting everything on downloading strategy, completely bypassing Blu-Ray.


Is that why they launched HD DVD? :lol:

Drive people away from the PS3 by any means necessary you say? Personally I don't see streaming being a big "OMGZ I MUST BUY XBOX 360 FOR THAT!" I mean look at the resistance the PS3 is met with by people not wanting a "games console" for a Blu-ray player, why would they suddenly want an Xbox 360 for their shite quality movie streaming playback?

Has anyone else noticed this forum is going backwards? Doesn't anyone appreciate quality HD anymore? What's the next step? I'll tell you- 480i 1.33:1 b&w movies!!!!!!!!! F*ck yeah!!! Retro is not just about fashion and music anymore. Let's all throw our HDTVs in a big pile and burn it to the ground!!! :banana:

funny thing is the crowd cheering that mentality on, were big supporters of HD DVD until things started to turn sour for that, that all of a sudden downloads were the future :p the thing I wondered about then and still do to this day is why didn't they jump on the only other format that could do HD (and had a higher bitrate than HD DVD BTW) VMD?

Has anyone else noticed this forum is going backwards? Doesn't anyone appreciate quality HD anymore? What's the next step? I'll tell you- 480i 1.33:1 b&w movies!!!!!!!!! F*ck yeah!!! Retro is not just about fashion and music anymore. Let's all throw our HDTVs in a big pile and burn it to the ground!!! :banana:
VHS should be back in fashion at any time.:banana: Anything so we don't have to watch quality 1080 video and listen to lossless sound. I'd certainly jump through hoops before wanting to subject myself to that.:rolleyes:

Personally I don't see streaming being a big "OMGZ I MUST BUY XBOX 360 FOR THAT!"

I agree. This is by no way a system seller, but it's nice perk if you already have both a 360 and a Netflix subscription.

Has anyone else noticed this forum is going backwards? Doesn't anyone appreciate quality HD anymore? What's the next step? I'll tell you- 480i 1.33:1 b&w movies!!!!!!!!! F*ck yeah!!! Retro is not just about fashion and music anymore. Let's all throw our HDTVs in a big pile and burn it to the ground!!! :banana:

But it's not a bad deal to watch stuff you can't get on HD media.

Is that why they launched HD DVD?
HD-DVD was devised 5 years ago, an eternity in fast-moving tech-world.

Personally I don't see streaming being a big "OMGZ I MUST BUY XBOX 360 FOR THAT!"
You are not going to bother with shopping for Blu-Ray discs or ordering PSN movies if you are preoccupied with Netflix streaming.

why would they suddenly want an Xbox 360 for their shite quality movie streaming playback?
HD was never a big draw for general public.
Netflix brings in "economy" and "convenience" factor onto the table. Factors that are hard for Blu-Ray to beat, especially when the vast majority of public doesn't care about 1080p video.

HD-DVD was devised 5 years ago, an eternity in fast-moving tech-world.


You are not going to bother with shopping for Blu-Ray discs or ordering PSN movies if you are preoccupied with Netflix streaming.


HD was never a big draw for general public.
Netflix brings in "economy" and "convenience" factor onto the table. Factors that are hard for Blu-Ray to beat, especially when the vast majority of public doesn't care about 1080p video.

1. February 2002: Blu-ray is announced, April if the same year the DVD forum decided to use thier own blue laser format but only after March 2002's great idea "In March 2002, the forum voted to approve a proposal endorsed by Warner Bros. and other motion picture studios that involved compressing HD content onto dual-layer DVD-9 discs." this is July 2008 that was April 2002 that's 6 years...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray

2. I'm also not going to bother with a console that suffers from the RROD, especially not to get a lower quality version of a movie... :cool:

3. HD will never be a big draw for general public as long as they keep giving out poorer quality version of movies... that's why I chose Blu-ray to give the best possible presentation available today, you can stick with your knock off formats they'll be niche.

It's not a choice of physical media or streaming, we are going to have both. The collectors will have the ability to to purchase disks; those that want to watch a movie just once, and don't care to own it will have streaming as an option. I watched "The Madness of King George" a few days ago streamed to my TV, and it was pretty good, but I have no need to own a copy or to see it again.

I view this as a + even though it will not be replacing my HD collection, but as we all know not everything is in HD and a lot of the stuff they have to offer via Netflix instant watch is not in HD in any shape or form.. NF instant watch is fast convienent and I have even used it to kinda preview certain films that are avaiable on Blu-Ray but was not sure if it waranted an actual rent or not..

Since I own both a 360 and subscribe to Nerflix this is a great perk, again this is not replacing my lust for HD its just another option for someone who enjoys movies and TV shows.. Now when NF does start offering HD streaming that will just add to what already is a nice perk..

Oh and a lot of the content is widescreen despite what others have said.. I know The Office was and a lot of the anime is also..

2. I'm also not going to bother with a console that suffers from the RROD, especially not to get a lower quality version of a movie... :cool:


So, you're bashing this and you don't even have the ability to use it? :what:

guess what pj we get the same service kind of now since the ps3 gets its own movie service now and we get blu-ray so we win.

guess what pj we get the same service kind of now since the ps3 gets its own movie service now and we get blu-ray so we win.

and it upconverts too :D

and it upconverts too :D

Tversity trumps all.

I'm not letting MS spy on whats on my media center.

Has anyone else noticed this forum is going backwards? Doesn't anyone appreciate quality HD anymore? What's the next step? I'll tell you- 480i 1.33:1 b&w movies!!!!!!!!! F*ck yeah!!! Retro is not just about fashion and music anymore. Let's all throw our HDTVs in a big pile and burn it to the ground!!! :banana: yes Glow we appreciate Quality HD. but if bored in my living room and want to catch a flick i dont have to wait 2 or 3 days for it to be mailed to me, i can simple stream it in 420p or soon 720p. whats not to like about that. If its a movie that im die hard about, i will buy it on Blu-ray and pay 30.00 for it. but im not going to go out and buy every new release on blu-ray just becasue its 1080p.. its just more practical to have some this content available to me. you will find a flaw in everything !!!

Netflix "watch it now titles" are around 80% Full Screen.


AKA artificially cropped to 4:3 format.

Enjoy not watching 40% of the picture!

Enjoy not watching 40% of the picture!

Thanks, I will :hithere: :D

Since I have a 360, XBL, and Netflix this will be a nice little feature. I hope the picture works well on the larger HDTV screen. I do occasionally watch a streamed Netflix movie on my computer, so this will replace, hopefully enhance that.

Netflix "watch it now titles" are around 80% Full Screen.


AKA artificially cropped to 4:3 format.

Enjoy not watching 40% of the picture!

So is it lonely up there?

You have been on a tear lately, adding absolutely nothing to threads. The only thing you are accomplishing is showing everyone how closed minded and childish you are.. :eek:


anyways what Kampsy doesnt even know because I am betting he doesnt even have a NetFlix account is out of that percentage that is full screen most of it is old TV shows and movies where everything was fullscreen. Netflix has plenty of older titles and of course they are not going to be widescreen, also when it comes to tv shows or movies, the majority of them that would intrest someone in my age range (aka someone who would be affected by NF joining with XBL) a much larger % of them are shown in their native widescreen format..

HD-DVD was devised 5 years ago, an eternity in fast-moving tech-world.

So they see downloading as the future now... ah I get you, and in this fast-moving tech-world. Before downloading takes over, I'm sure they'll happily switch onto something else that is definitely the future. :rolleyes: It's nothing to do with technology. It's purely to do with how they think they're going to generate their green.


You are not going to bother with shopping for Blu-Ray discs or ordering PSN movies if you are preoccupied with Netflix streaming.


I am, I like my video quality to look better than something that fell out of my ass.


HD was never a big draw for general public.
Netflix brings in "economy" and "convenience" factor onto the table. Factors that are hard for Blu-Ray to beat, especially when the vast majority of public doesn't care about 1080p video.

In that case Netflix were retarded not to get this set up on Wii first. Christ even the BBC got that right :p

Is it not hypocracy to market the Xbox 360 as a "true high definition console/entertainment hub" then have most of it's stuff in SD? :p

Btw, for the record, I'm far from against this idea, I think it's a nice addition to the 360, well it would be if I could use it, because I'd love to be able to watch TV shows downloaded or streamed to my Xbox 360. In fact I'm looking forward to TV shows :D

I just think it's hilarious that deadmeat is now proclaiming it the death for PS3, and for all optical media all because a console that has enjoyed a moderate success in 1 territory has added it.

As you said deadmeat, average person doesn't want high def. Average person also doesn't want Xbox 360. Therefore how is netflix on the 360 going to be the end of home video as we know it?

So is it lonely up there?

You have been on a tear lately, adding absolutely nothing to threads. The only thing you are accomplishing is showing everyone how closed minded and childish you are.. :eek:


anyways what Kampsy doesnt even know because I am betting he doesnt even have a NetFlix account is out of that percentage that is full screen most of it is old TV shows and movies where everything was fullscreen. Netflix has plenty of older titles and of course they are not going to be widescreen, also when it comes to tv shows or movies, the majority of them that would intrest someone in my age range (aka someone who would be affected by NF joining with XBL) a much larger % of them are shown in their native widescreen format..

I've had netflix for over a year. I just tried Gattaca "watch it now" on my PC. It was 4:3.

Where's the beef?

Well it's confirmed, Canada (and the UK) gets screwed again:

-No Netflix (either on the 360 or otherwise)
-No PSN video service

I wasn't overly interested in the Netflix service as it's only SD, but the PSN service looked passible (Early reviews indicate that the video quality is higher than iTunes or XBL, but the file size is bigger). Looks like it's still Blu- Ray or nothing.

Well it's confirmed, Canada (and the UK) gets screwed again:

-No Netflix (either on the 360 or otherwise)
-No PSN video service

I wasn't overly interested in the Netflix service as it's only SD, but the PSN service looked passible (Early reviews indicate that the video quality is higher than iTunes or XBL, but the file size is bigger). Looks like it's still Blu- Ray or nothing.

TVersity and ISOhunt make an even better pairing then any of the above if you have a PS3;)

TVersity and ISOhunt make an even better pairing then any of the above if you have a PS3;)

I know this is going to seem crazy, but I actually like to pay for what I use. I know it's a strange concept, but I believe in following the spirit of the law more-so than following the letter of the law. I have no problem making a copy of any media that I own for personal use, but I find just downloading (stealing) a movie to be morally wrong.

It may be legal in Canada, but I don't think it's ethical.

Oh, BTW. Once PS3 starting being able to directly stream divx, I deleted TVersity.

I know this is going to seem crazy, but I actually like to pay for what I use. I know it's a strange concept, but I believe in following the spirit of the law more-so than following the letter of the law. I have no problem making a copy of any media that I own for personal use, but I find just downloading (stealing) a movie to be morally wrong.

It may be legal in Canada, but I don't think it's ethical.

Oh, BTW. Once PS3 starting being able to directly stream divx, I deleted TVersity.

TVersity doesn't cost anything, and you can just borrow movies off ISOhunt. Have you ever borrowed a movie from a friend? Same thing as borrowing a movie from a friend who lives very far away. So you loan it to him via bit torrent.

It's not stealing unless you keep it forever and ever and ever. Then it's piracy.

Heh...I wonder how well that logic will work in court... But it does sound good ;)

TVersity doesn't cost anything, and you can just borrow movies off ISOhunt. Have you ever borrowed a movie from a friend? Same thing as borrowing a movie from a friend who lives very far away. So you loan it to him via bit torrent.

It's not stealing unless you keep it forever and ever and ever. Then it's piracy.

TVersity doesn't cost anything, and you can just borrow movies off ISOhunt. Have you ever borrowed a movie from a friend? Same thing as borrowing a movie from a friend who lives very far away. So you loan it to him via bit torrent.

It's not stealing unless you keep it forever and ever and ever. Then it's piracy.

Ummm, I'm going to idsagree with you here. When you borrow a movie from a friend, the film itself is not being duplicated. The friend does not maintain the ability to watch the movie while the film is in your hands.

This is not the case with ISOhunt. With ISOhunt the film is copied to your HDD, while the seeders keep their copies. In my mind this is the same as theft. If you want to borrow a movie, there are legal alternatives out there.

Once again, I acknowledge that I live in a country where downloading is legal (for now), but in my mind there is a big disconnect between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law.

Ummm, I'm going to idsagree with you here. When you borrow a movie from a friend, the film itself is not being duplicated. The friend does not maintain the ability to watch the movie while the film is in your hands.

This is not the case with ISOhunt. With ISOhunt the film is copied to your HDD, while the seeders keep their copies. In my mind this is the same as theft. If you want to borrow a movie, there are legal alternatives out there.

Once again, I acknowledge that I live in a country where downloading is legal (for now), but in my mind there is a big disconnect between the letter of the law and the spirit of the law.

Who said I was downloading copyrighted films? There are plenty of films who's copyright has expired and is now public property. Also, it's a good way to share home films with friends.

Who said I was downloading copyrighted films? There are plenty of films who's copyright has expired and is now public property. Also, it's a good way to share home films with friends.

Umm, this depends on where you live and where the copyright was registered. In the US the copyright duration on films is 50 years (in some cases it can be up to 120 years), and as such some films created before 1958 are currently public domain. However in places like the UK (and many commonwealth countries), copyright is 70 from the death of the last creator (director, scriptwriter, author, composer...they all have to be dead). What this means is that there are very few films that fall under public domain under these laws.

It should also be noted that the waters get muddier when trademarks are included in the picture (Thanks CETA). Although a film property may become public domain, the use of a trademarked character in the film mar not be. A good example of this would be the film Steamboat Mickey. This film is in the public domain, but the trademark for Mickey Mouse is still in effect. As such, the distribution of the film is prohibited (primarily commercial distribution, but there has never been a case testing this) by the trademark holder.

The home films are not a problem, since you are the creator and have distribution rights for your own film.