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New info on HDMI cables wanted to ask you guys bout

nyg052003
05-26-2008, 02:47 PM
Ok went to circuit city today and just to pass on the info to u guys i wanted to know what yall think about what 2 guys were saying. Ok first off, i want yall to know that i looked them straight in the eye and said nah i already got cables coming from monoprice and I appeared to them confident in what i was saying about how the digital cables either work or dont so im sure they werent trying to get over on me or get me to buy thier stuff and also said they werent on commision either. So they told me that the Monster ones had the 8 bit transferring rate and that what you guys were saying on here mite be true to an extent but that with the monster ones the speed transfer rate and something else he said that the monster ones would offer.

Type A
05-26-2008, 04:30 PM
Did he mention what requires that speed? Could he show you the difference to justify spending four to five times as much? How will these differences make a differnce? Better pq or aq?

nyg052003
05-26-2008, 08:25 PM
Did he mention what requires that speed? Could he show you the difference to justify spending four to five times as much? How will these differences make a differnce? Better pq or aq?

whats pq and aq?

18 is # 1
05-26-2008, 08:53 PM
picture quality / audio quality

The point is that a Yugo can't enjoy much (if any) benefit from Farrari tires. You can spend the money, but will you get any real world benefit from them?

nyg052003
05-26-2008, 09:07 PM
picture quality / audio quality

The point is that a Yugo can't enjoy much (if any) benefit from Farrari tires. You can spend the money, but will you get any real world benefit from them?

hey 18 u see my thread about the speaker wire size in cables section? And also one in spkrs and surround section on 5.1 setup? what do u think?

Loves2Watch
05-26-2008, 10:03 PM
Ok went to circuit city today and just to pass on the info to u guys i wanted to know what yall think about what 2 guys were saying. Ok first off, i want yall to know that i looked them straight in the eye and said nah i already got cables coming from monoprice and I appeared to them confident in what i was saying about how the digital cables either work or dont so im sure they werent trying to get over on me or get me to buy thier stuff and also said they werent on commision either. So they told me that the Monster ones had the 8 bit transferring rate and that what you guys were saying on here mite be true to an extent but that with the monster ones the speed transfer rate and something else he said that the monster ones would offer.

8 bit transfer rate means absolutely nothing. 8 bit is something in the TV or other hardware not the cables. So again, snake oil...

Dnsks
05-27-2008, 02:31 AM
That was complete and utter bullshit. There are only a handful of HDMI manuf. Everyone uses their cables and rebadges them. Monster is a completely unreliable Co. They make fine cables, just like everyone else. Some of the best HDMI cables made are the Bluejeans cable but you probably wouldn't be able to tell them from another decent cable, visually anyway.

texasbrit
05-27-2008, 07:49 AM
That was complete and utter bullshit. There are only a handful of HDMI manuf. Everyone uses their cables and rebadges them. Monster is a completely unreliable Co. They make fine cables, just like everyone else. Some of the best HDMI cables made are the Bluejeans cable but you probably wouldn't be able to tell them from another decent cable, visually anyway.


Agree about the BS. There is absolutely no point in paying high prices for HDMI cables, it's just increased profit for the store so of course they want to convince you that you need them. If you are paying $3000 for a TV then $120 does not seem a lot for a cable until you realise you would get exactly the same picture quality from a $15 cable. As the length of the cables increases, you need to get thicker cables but these are available from many good on-line suppliers. Monoprice and bluejeanscable are the two most often mentioned, I have used them both and can thoroughly recommend them.
There are some interesting articles about cables on the bluejeanscable web site if you want to find out more.

Vader1025
05-27-2008, 10:59 PM
Ok went to circuit city today and just to pass on the info to u guys i wanted to know what yall think about what 2 guys were saying. Ok first off, i want yall to know that i looked them straight in the eye and said nah i already got cables coming from monoprice and I appeared to them confident in what i was saying about how the digital cables either work or dont so im sure they werent trying to get over on me or get me to buy thier stuff and also said they werent on commision either. So they told me that the Monster ones had the 8 bit transferring rate and that what you guys were saying on here mite be true to an extent but that with the monster ones the speed transfer rate and something else he said that the monster ones would offer.

Even when Circuit City was on commision, it wouldn't make a difference in their advice-wrong or right as it may be.

If there is any doubt, ask them to hook the same TV with Monster Cable compared to a "generic" one.

I used to be able to tell a BIG difference with Monster Composite cables but with HD, the difference just seems to be the price.

reiterta
05-27-2008, 11:40 PM
Having worked at Best Buy you sell what you are trained on.... If Monster comes in and shows you and tells you why they make a better cable then the others (which you don't know anything about) you will sell the monster cables. Plus commision or not your store is graded on the amount of accessories and service agreements you can attatch to a sale.... High Pressure regardless of commission.. You almost can't let anyone go on their merry way...

18 is # 1
05-27-2008, 11:49 PM
I used to be able to tell a BIG difference with Monster Composite cables but with HD, the difference just seems to be the price.

Composite cables are analog and quality may cause a difference in picture. That is not saying that Monster is way better...but rather that a well made cable (from Monoprice or Blue Jeans for instance) may produce a more accurate picture than a Wally World bargain brand.

IrishBrewer
05-28-2008, 07:00 AM
Here is a link to a test of Monoprice vs Monster HDMI cables (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hdmi-cable-battlemodo/the-truth-about-monster-cable-part-2-verdict-cheap-cables-keep-upusually-268788.php).

It shows that for short distances the much cheaper monoprice cables work just as good as the pricy Monster cables. Only when you get to longer runs (35-50 feet) do you start to see any differences between the two and the author recommends that even for these long distances that you try the inexpensive cable first and if it works you're good.

mobiushky
05-30-2008, 06:20 PM
Here is a link to a test of Monoprice vs Monster HDMI cables (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hdmi-cable-battlemodo/the-truth-about-monster-cable-part-2-verdict-cheap-cables-keep-upusually-268788.php).

It shows that for short distances the much cheaper monoprice cables work just as good as the pricy Monster cables. Only when you get to longer runs (35-50 feet) do you start to see any differences between the two and the author recommends that even for these long distances that you try the inexpensive cable first and if it works you're good.

You should read part III of that report:

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hdmi-cable-battlemodo/the-truth-about-monster-cable-+-grand-finale-part-iii-282725.php

Key points:

• It never pays to buy a Monster cable first. It doesn't even make sense to buy the "marked down" $50 cable you can buy if you don't want Monster. Go online, order your cables, and wait.

• Even if you're going for the long haul, try a cheaper cable from a reliable vendor first. Monoprice isn't the only one. During this process I've spoken with good people at FireFold, DataPro International, and others, and tested an assortment of discount products, with no noticeable problems. I am confident that, if a vendor has a solid return policy and satisfaction guarantee, you should feel free to buy even a super-long cable from a discount house. In the case of my 50-footer noise, a quick return would have been all that was required.

• Monster has a point about future-proofing. I have no doubt, given our testing, that Monster cables can outperform other cables in video formats that are not yet in use. What does this mean for a consumer? Does it make sense to spend $300 now on a 50-foot cable, assuming you will spend thousands to upgrade all of your video equipment around it in the next few years? Logic dictates that the answer is no.

• The only people who should buy Monster cable are people who light cigars with Benjamins. Fortunately for Monster, there are plenty of those people. They're not even suckers, they are just rich as hell, and want the best. This testing did not prove that Monster is not the best. It just proved that the best is, for the most part, unnecessary.

edders
05-30-2008, 06:25 PM
this question just keeps getting asked and re asked. If someone wants to believe the salespersons over credible reports on the internet, then fine...buy the frigging Monster Cable!!! Just don't expect people who know better to compliment you on your wonderful decision.

Ed

nyg052003
05-30-2008, 08:15 PM
this question just keeps getting asked and re asked. If someone wants to believe the salespersons over credible reports on the internet, then fine...buy the frigging Monster Cable!!! Just don't expect people who know better to compliment you on your wonderful decision.

Ed

my order from monoprice came in yesterday lol