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Dish Essential vs Dish Ultimate vs Dish HD

jimpghpa
05-13-2008, 07:26 PM
Dish Essential $10
Get 28 great HD channels with America's Top 100
Get 33 great HD channels with America's Top 200
Get 39 great HD channels with America's Top 250

Dish Ultimate $20
Get 40 great HD channels with America's Top 100
Get 45 great HD channels with America's Top 200
Get 51 great HD channels with America's Top 250

Dish HD $29.99 - the only all HD programming package on the market today
Over 50 great HD channels (includes dishHD Essential and dishHD Ultimate)
Bravo is listed as one of the channels.


Previously I had America's top 100 and Dish Ultimate (37.99 for D100 with locals + $20 for Dish Ultimate = 57.99)

Then I called and switched to Dish HD (29.99 + 5 for locals = 34.99)

Gee this was a no brainer.

But...

Dish HD (29.99) lists Bravo as one of the channels.

My Bravo is "redded out"
I called and asked about it and the woman said you can only get Bravo in HD if you subscribe to America's top 200. But Dish HD does not give a choice of Top 100/200/250 and it shows Bravo as one of the channels.

Guess my question is do you think I should be getting Bravo with Dish HD?
Hope you understand what i am trying to ask.

costanza_fu
05-13-2008, 07:34 PM
http://www.dishnetwork.com/images/our_products/dish_hd/programming/dishhd.jpg

I'd think so.. since its right there on their website.

mobiushky
05-13-2008, 07:38 PM
Remember, BravoHD just went live yesterday. There may still be some quirks to work out. But you're right, you should be getting it. I think it's time to play CSR roulette! Call back and ask again. If they give you the same answer, ask to spear to a supervisor. Sometimes these poor CSR's don't have all of the info they should at the right time.

jimpghpa
05-13-2008, 07:40 PM
science, animal, and bio are also "redded out" hmmm

garys
05-13-2008, 07:47 PM
science, animal, and bio are also "redded out" hmmm

There has been some reported glitches when the new channels were added, have you tried to reboot your receiver?

DodgerKing
05-13-2008, 08:19 PM
Dish Essential $10
Get 28 great HD channels with America's Top 100
Get 33 great HD channels with America's Top 200
Get 39 great HD channels with America's Top 250

Dish Ultimate $20
Get 40 great HD channels with America's Top 100
Get 45 great HD channels with America's Top 200
Get 51 great HD channels with America's Top 250

Dish HD $29.99 - the only all HD programming package on the market today
Over 50 great HD channels (includes dishHD Essential and dishHD Ultimate)
Bravo is listed as one of the channels.


Previously I had America's top 100 and Dish Ultimate (37.99 for D100 with locals + $20 for Dish Ultimate = 57.99)

Then I called and switched to Dish HD (29.99 + 5 for locals = 34.99)

Gee this was a no brainer.

But...

Dish HD (29.99) lists Bravo as one of the channels.

My Bravo is "redded out"
I called and asked about it and the woman said you can only get Bravo in HD if you subscribe to America's top 200. But Dish HD does not give a choice of Top 100/200/250 and it shows Bravo as one of the channels.

Guess my question is do you think I should be getting Bravo with Dish HD?
Hope you understand what i am trying to ask.

Definitely a no brainer. When they exclude your own local RSN(s), I easily say no! Now if Direct adds this and they include my RSN's, my locals in HD, and allow me to add extras such as MLB EI, then I would definitely jump on this package option.

jsagraves
05-13-2008, 08:37 PM
What are my options to go to this package? We have 2 TVs, but only one is HD. Could I use a second HD receiver to connect to the standard TV and still utilize the all HD package for $29.99? I currently have a 622 HD DVR. Would they give me a second HD DVR or just a standard HD receiver for the second TV? We might go to a second HDTV eventually, but not anytime in the next year. The all HD package looks like a good option as far as the channels available, plus they'll be adding more later, I'm sure.

Anyone know my options here?

midsouthgeek
05-13-2008, 08:52 PM
What are my options to go to this package? We have 2 TVs, but only one is HD. Could I use a second HD receiver to connect to the standard TV and still utilize the all HD package for $29.99? I currently have a 622 HD DVR. Would they give me a second HD DVR or just a standard HD receiver for the second TV? We might go to a second HDTV eventually, but not anytime in the next year. The all HD package looks like a good option as far as the channels available, plus they'll be adding more later, I'm sure.

Anyone know my options here?

You can run two tv's (one HD, one SD) with a vip 622 or newer.

I switched to this package too...:banana:

jsagraves
05-14-2008, 05:51 AM
You can run two tv's (one HD, one SD) with a vip 622 or newer.

I switched to this package too...:banana:


Would I lose my PIP capabilities by doing this? Any limitations when doing this sort of hookup (Ie. have to watch the same show, can only access one OTA local channel at a time)?

garys
05-14-2008, 06:43 AM
Would I lose my PIP capabilities by doing this? Any limitations when doing this sort of hookup (Ie. have to watch the same show, can only access one OTA local channel at a time)?

Yes, you would lose your pip, but switching back to single user mode brings it back (switching modes only takes a couple of seconds). I switch mine back and forth depending on the situation. Anything recorded on any tuner is available to both tv's. OTA would only be viewable on tv1 (including guide) but you can dvr ota and view back on tv2. It is something you may want to try to see if you like it.

Digital Blue
05-14-2008, 08:27 AM
You can also do a "Dish'n It Up!" to add a Vip612 to your second TV. I think the upgrade would run you $99. If you do, make sure your second TV has RCA and/or S-Video inputs since the 612 does not have a coax output. The 612 is a dual-tuner HD DVR that works on one TV. Be prepared to add a second outlet fee PLUS DVR fee to your monthly bill.

OR

You could add a Vip211 to your second TV and then activate the USB port for a one-time $50 fee which would allow you to add an external hard-drive and make it a DVR. The outlet fee would still apply, but I don't think any monthly DVR fee would, which in the long run would make this a more cost effective solution. The 211 is a single-tuner HD receiver.

Just some options.

jimpghpa
05-14-2008, 08:33 AM
i just had a "duh" moment because i now see what is happening. the change to dish HD never took affect. the lady told me it would be immediate and when i saw the new hd's i figured i had been cut over. but all my standard definitions are still there. so i will need to call them and tell them the change didn't take. i used to be a big sports fan and would miss the regional sports network but i just don't have time to follow sports anymore. losing the daily show and colbert report just means i will need to download those episodes from the internet each night to watch them but that is no big deal. all in all the dish hd package works for me. now if only it would work ;-)

Lkr
05-14-2008, 03:44 PM
with the HD package, you get all of the SD channels for the HD channels you are getting.

jpfrasier
05-14-2008, 04:34 PM
with the HD package, you get all of the SD channels for the HD channels you are getting.

But with the Dish HD package you ONLY get the HD channels not SD.

costanza_fu
05-14-2008, 04:51 PM
But with the Dish HD package you ONLY get the HD channels not SD.

nope.. i get all the espn's .. only 1 in hd.
each hd comes with its sd as well.

jimpghpa
05-14-2008, 05:43 PM
finally got my dish hd package fixed up. delayed a day due to computer problems at dish. and no you do NOT get the SD counterparts to the HD's. but that is fine with me. this package suits my needs perfectly :) and a great price!

jsagraves
05-14-2008, 05:59 PM
nope.. i get all the espn's .. only 1 in hd.
each hd comes with its sd as well.

If this is the case, can I continue to use the SD receiver I already have on the standard TV and just switch our package to the all HD? Will I be able to continue to get the SD channels for the channels included in the HD package?

jsagraves
05-14-2008, 06:00 PM
finally got my dish hd package fixed up. delayed a day due to computer problems at dish. and no you do NOT get the SD counterparts to the HD's. but that is fine with me. this package suits my needs perfectly :) and a great price!

Nevermind, I guess you don't get the SD channels so I would have to get another HD receiver.

costanza_fu
05-14-2008, 06:14 PM
darn.. spoke too soon, i guess. i cross-graded to the all hd yesterday and had plenty of sd in the lineup..
i'll see if they updated it when i get home.

jimpghpa
05-14-2008, 06:23 PM
and you have dish hd for $24.99 a month?

costanza_fu
05-14-2008, 06:42 PM
yes.. plus max, hbo and locals.

larrylwill
05-14-2008, 08:00 PM
and you have dish hd for $24.99 a month?

How did you get $24.99? I got $29.99 and just signed up last week for the HD package + $5 for the recorder.

jimpghpa
05-15-2008, 04:29 PM
oh yeah sorry 29.99
plus i pay 5 more for my locals
i get all my locals in HD over the air with my home made antenna
but i still wanted to pay the extra 5 so i wouldn't lose the program guide