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Living in denial

rrrrrroger
02-17-2008, 06:05 AM
"You live on an earthquake fault."
"No I don't."

"Oil prices will hit $100/barrel by 2008."
"No it won't."

"HD DVD is dead."
"They just stopped making players; they are still making discs. It isn't dead!"

Denial.

VHSHD
02-17-2008, 06:08 AM
"You live on an earthquake fault."
"No I don't."

"Oil prices will hit $100/barrel by 2008."
"No it won't."

"HD DVD is dead."
"They just stopped making players; they are still making discs. It isn't dead!"

Denial.

Wow what an interesting thread. How long did it take to come up with this one, enjoy the flame to come.

Nikopol
02-17-2008, 06:09 AM
"You live on an earthquake fault."
"No I don't."

"Oil prices will hit $100/barrel by 2008."
"No it won't."

"HD DVD is dead."
"They just stopped making players; they are still making discs. It isn't dead!"

Denial.

:spam:

rrrrrroger
02-17-2008, 06:12 AM
:spam:

Yes it is.

And funny spam too.

:thumbsup: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Stew4HD
02-17-2008, 06:58 AM
Yes it is.

And funny spam too.

:thumbsup: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Funny? Really? Oh! It is meant for your bluray.com brothers that will be here to act as childish as you!! :rolleyes: Do you guys sit around over there and pat each other's butts over the stuff you post here?

iggy time for the rrrrr

borromini
02-17-2008, 07:03 AM
...Do you guys sit around over there and pat each other's butts over the stuff you post here?... Well it starts with pats and then moves on to...:D

iDarren
02-17-2008, 07:10 AM
Yes it is.

And funny spam too.

:thumbsup: :haha: :haha: :haha:

You must be easily amused if you think that was funny.

rrrrrroger
02-17-2008, 07:35 AM
Funny? Really? Oh! It is meant for your bluray.com brothers that will be here to act as childish as you!!

Childish is people who DENY what is happening.

That's childish. (also slightly idiotic). See here: http://www.highdefforum.com/showthread.php?t=65483 (Electroshock Therapy)

Nikopol
02-17-2008, 07:47 AM
Do you have anyone in particular in mind, or are you just rambling on in a general way?

And dude: Denial is the first step in the grieving process, should not surprise you. Instead of gloating, you might want to try treating those who grief as friends. If you care about HDM, you would try not to alienate HD DVD supporters, who might and will be future Blu-ray supporters.

But something tells me that is above your character's limits.

MikeRox
02-17-2008, 07:53 AM
How long til the Blu-ray fanboys get bored of HDM now that HD DVD is all but dead? 2 weeks? 3 weeks? Can't be long, boy are these forums going to be a nice place to discuss the future Blu-ray releases when that happens.

bruceames
02-17-2008, 08:29 AM
How long til the Blu-ray fanboys get bored of HDM now that HD DVD is all but dead? 2 weeks? 3 weeks? Can't be long, boy are these forums going to be a nice place to discuss the future Blu-ray releases when that happens.

Sadly, some fans enjoyment of HDM was 90% derived from making fun of others. For them, the worst thing that can happen is for HD DVDers to not be miserable and to find out it wasn't that serious for them anyway. Having no one to hate and to ridicule takes all the fun out, so fortunately those are precisely the people who won't stick around when the dust has settled. It will be nice to have nothing but mature people around here again.

Stew4HD
02-17-2008, 08:36 AM
Sadly, some fans enjoyment of HDM was 90% derived from making fun of others. For them, the worst thing that can happen is for HD DVDers to not be miserable and to find out it wasn't that serious for them anyway. Having no one to hate and to ridicule takes all the fun out, so fortunately those are precisely the people who won't stick around when the dust has settled. It will be nice to have nothing but mature people around here again.

QFT! HDM is the reason I am here and have stayed. I have learned a lot about audio and video since joining. 99% of th efolks here are good people. The odd 1% is made of of creeps like the OP.

Bruce, you probably already own more BDs that the OP.

borromini
02-17-2008, 09:01 AM
Bruce, you probably already own more BDs that the OP....and more than 90% of the BD zealots. :)

unotis
02-17-2008, 09:16 AM
...and more than 90% of the BD zealots. :)

Even though I only have 4 right now with 3 more pre-ordered, I imagine that I have more done more to support Blu-Ray then 90% of the childish BluBoyz Trolls that have infected the forum since the Warner announcement.

It is like when cockroaches infest your apartment when they fumigate the next door apartment and they rush to your side.

You just need to do your best until they die off or move on.

I put many of them on ignore and it brings a smile to my face when I see their name come up but I don't have to read their crap.

If we all identify the Trolls and then just put them on ignore then they will not receive any results from their flamebaiting and will get bored and go away. :yippee:

bruceames
02-17-2008, 09:20 AM
Bruce, you probably already own more BDs that the OP.

Well, I just got the player 2 days ago. :lol: I do own 4 though, with 3 more on the way.

Stew4HD
02-17-2008, 09:22 AM
Even though I only have 4 right now with 3 more pre-ordered, I imagine that I have more done more to support Blu-Ray then 90% of the childish BluBoyz Trolls that have infected the forum since the Warner announcement.

It is like when cockroaches infest your apartment when they fumigate the next door apartment and they rush to your side.

You just need to do your best until they die off or move on.

I put many of them on ignore and it brings a smile to my face when I see their name come up but I don't have to read their crap.

If we all identify the Trolls and then just put them on ignore then they will not receive any results from their flamebaiting and will get bored and go away. :yippee:

:thumbsup: Yeah, I just need to do that instead of responding to them at all. They don't understand logic nor will until way after puberty, if at all.

Rhino64
02-17-2008, 09:24 AM
"You live on an earthquake fault."
"No I don't."

"Oil prices will hit $100/barrel by 2008."
"No it won't."

"HD DVD is dead."
"They just stopped making players; they are still making discs. It isn't dead!"

Denial.

Why does anybody even respond too this type of crap?

Stew4HD
02-17-2008, 09:26 AM
Why does anybody even respond too this type of crap?

It's kinf of like coming upon a bad car wreck, you don't want to look, but you just have to.

edders
02-17-2008, 09:32 AM
Sadly, some fans enjoyment of HDM was 90% derived from making fun of others. For them, the worst thing that can happen is for HD DVDers to not be miserable and to find out it wasn't that serious for them anyway. Having no one to hate and to ridicule takes all the fun out, so fortunately those are precisely the people who won't stick around when the dust has settled. It will be nice to have nothing but mature people around here again.

For me it's not about which format won, but the whole trumped up format war thing.

I do not remember the BETA/VHS formats being in a war as much as competing formats. Seem to remember that most movies were available in both formats letting the consumer decide which they preferred.

Think that we all, as consumers, just lost out on the ability to choose what we like. Possibly the rah rah boys are the ones in denial?

Stew4HD
02-17-2008, 09:36 AM
For me it's not about which format won, but the whole trumped up format war thing.

I do not remember the BETA/VHS formats being in a war as much as competing formats. Seem to remember that most movies were available in both formats letting the consumer decide which they preferred.

Think that we all, as consumers, just lost out on the ability to choose what we like. Possibly the rah rah boys are the ones in denial?

Indeed, the consumer did choose what they wanted in that war, the most popular one over a long period of time, won.

We didn't have the internet then. Neither advertised much, if at all.

electrictroy
02-17-2008, 01:47 PM
I don't own a Blu-ray.

I can't be said to be a "fan" of any side.

rrrrrroger
02-17-2008, 02:02 PM
And dude: Denial is the first step in the grieving process, should not surprise you.


I didn't think of that. What is there to grieve about?

borromini
02-17-2008, 02:25 PM
...It is like when cockroaches infest your apartment when they fumigate the next door apartment and they rush to your side.

You just need to do your best until they die off or move on.

I put many of them on ignore and it brings a smile to my face when I see their name come up but I don't have to read their crap...How do you put roaches on "ignore"? :D

unotis
02-17-2008, 02:27 PM
Sorry double post see below. :o

unotis
02-17-2008, 02:31 PM
How do you put roaches on "ignore"? :D

Simple, just click on their forum name and scroll down to view public profile, click on it and you'll see where you can add them to your ignore list and click on it! :lol:

PFC5
02-17-2008, 06:31 PM
Well, I just got the player 2 days ago. :lol: I do own 4 though, with 3 more on the way.

Heck. I own more BD movies than Bruce does right now. :D :p

I wonder how long that will last though. :lol:

venomxr8
02-17-2008, 07:34 PM
"You live on an earthquake fault."
"No I don't."

"Oil prices will hit $100/barrel by 2008."
"No it won't."

"HD DVD is dead."
"They just stopped making players; they are still making discs. It isn't dead!"

Denial.

Give it a rest will you, Stop coming here to rub it in, everyone knows hd dvd is finished do you have to keep broadcasting it. You'd be a more productive member of these forums if you try to help others get into blu ray instead of childish "nah nah" threads like these. Look, im a solid Blu supporter and your not doing our rep any good.

Stew4HD
02-17-2008, 07:41 PM
Give it a rest will you, Stop coming here to rub it in, everyone knows hd dvd is finished do you have to keep broadcasting it. You'd be a more productive member of these forums if you try to help others get into blu ray instead of childish "nah nah" threads like these. Look, im a solid Blu supporter and your not doing our rep any good.

+100,000,000!

You should check ot what this little jerks are doing over in the HD DVD player section... it isn't pretty!

BTW, venom, THANK YOU for your words. Maybe it'll help coming from a solid BD supporter such as yourself. I appreciate and respect you for the way you have been through the win.. handled with grace!

My hat goes off to you. If more BD fans were like you, more HD DVD fans would the transition to BD much quicker and easier.

Oblio, not to leave you out.. thanks to you too!:hithere:

venomxr8
02-17-2008, 07:49 PM
You should check ot what this little jerks are doing over in the HD DVD player section... it isn't pretty!
:

maybee i'll go check it out and sort some of them out;)

oblioman
02-17-2008, 07:58 PM
How do you put roaches on "ignore"? :D

gently tug a couple of legs off from their left side (follow instructions closely) - left side only. This will eventually make them run up their own arse and proclaim "hey, it stinks in here". Unfortunatly, some of them have their noses so high in they air that they can't smell their own stink. :thumbsup:

oblioman
02-17-2008, 08:09 PM
+100,000,000!

You should check ot what this little jerks are doing over in the HD DVD player section... it isn't pretty!

BTW, venom, THANK YOU for your words. Maybe it'll help coming from a solid BD supporter such as yourself. I appreciate and respect you for the way you have been through the win.. handled with grace!

My hat goes off to you. If more BD fans were like you, more HD DVD fans would the transition to BD much quicker and easier.

Oblio, not to leave you out.. thanks to you too!:hithere:

Thanks Stew - no matter what format,,,we still be the HD forum. Along with this comes the responsibility to share and enlighten, humor, and to adapt to changes in the HD market. For meself, if HD DVD had prevailed, me would have been very comfortable with the format as a viewable media. Me main choice for BD is simply, that it offered more choices with home recording,etc. IN NO WAY IS BD BETTER THAN HD DVD, ALBEIT, HD DVD IS BETTER AS VIEWABLE MEDIA BECAUSE IT CAN DO ON 15GIGS WHAT BD CANNOT DO ON 15 GIGS.

Nikopol
02-18-2008, 02:30 AM
I didn't think of that. What is there to grieve about?

I have seen people crying because of lost sports events or were depressed (for some time) because their team didnīt win the season. Itīs about the same thing here. People get emotionally involved in all kinds of things, that might seem to be ridiculous to others. I know i was down after the WB news and actually pretty much went through the stages. Of course you canīt compare the end of the format war to dramatic events in real life. Thatīs why youīll see many people "embracing" blu quite fast and others will just turn away from HDM.

Again, maybe try not to further alienate those who might be Blu-ray supporters in the future. The hardliners will just go down with the ship but most "normal" people will not. Give them some time, ok? :)

Stew4HD
02-18-2008, 04:00 AM
I have seen people crying because of lost sports events or were depressed (for some time) because their team didnīt win the season. Itīs about the same thing here. People get emotionally involved in all kinds of things, that might seem to be ridiculous to others. I know i was down after the WB news and actually pretty much went through the stages. Of course you canīt compare the end of the format war to dramatic events in real life. Thatīs why youīll see many people "embracing" blu quite fast and others will just turn away from HDM.

Again, maybe try not to further alienate those who might be Blu-ray supporters in the future. The hardliners will just go down with the ship but most "normal" people will not. Give them some time, ok? :)

It this whole thing had gone the other way and HD DVD had won, he's had known what it is like. He is emotionally involved or he wouldn't be here pouring salt on wounds. IMO, he and several others are taking the high brow approach because the PS3, I mean BD, did win.:rolleyes:

rrrrrroger
02-18-2008, 04:34 AM
I didn't think of that. What is there to grieve about? I have seen people crying because of lost sports events or were depressed (for some time) because their team didnīt win the season. Itīs about the same thing here. People get emotionally involved in all kinds of things, that might seem to be ridiculous to others. I know i was down after the WB news and actually pretty much went through the stages. Of course you canīt compare the end of the format war to dramatic events in real life. Thatīs why youīll see many people "embracing" blu quite fast and others will just turn away from HDM.

Again, maybe try not to further alienate those who might be Blu-ray supporters in the future. The hardliners will just go down with the ship but most "normal" people will not. Give them some time, ok? :) Oh.

So I was being an insensitive jerk.

I apologize.

MikeRox
02-18-2008, 05:10 AM
Have you got any purpose on these threads other than to ridicule and mock HD DVD and it's owners? You don't appear to be that enthusiastic for Blu-ray, just the fact that it has won.

rrrrrroger
02-18-2008, 05:17 AM
I'll be more enthusiastic when I see some of my favorite TV shows pop-up on Bluray.

Stew4HD
02-18-2008, 05:47 AM
Have you got any purpose on these threads other than to ridicule and mock HD DVD and it's owners? You don't appear to be that enthusiastic for Blu-ray, just the fact that it has won.

He's been reported. Don't expect to see his posts much longer. The mods do not want this type of poster on the forums as it only brings brings the level down.

MikeRox
02-18-2008, 05:49 AM
I'll be more enthusiastic when I see some of my favorite TV shows pop-up on Bluray.

Good luck, the incentive to release "big catalogue" content went through the floor with the demise of HD DVD. Now they might as well just plonk out big name day and dates, rather than expensive box sets for TV and older catalogue titles.

I really hope I'm wrong mind. But that was the best factor about the format war IMO.

cousin eddie
02-18-2008, 08:45 AM
Sadly, some fans enjoyment of HDM was 90% derived from making fun of others. For them, the worst thing that can happen is for HD DVDers to not be miserable and to find out it wasn't that serious for them anyway. Having no one to hate and to ridicule takes all the fun out, so fortunately those are precisely the people who won't stick around when the dust has settled. It will be nice to have nothing but mature people around here again.


Hey Bruce, don't let go of your HD DVD player, the Samsung won't play well over half of my backup dvd's. I have been having to dig out my originals if I want to watch sd dvd movies on my Samsung. I am glad I still have my A2, it plays everything I throw at it. Needless to say I don't use the Samsung very often, only for rental BD's. Just wanted to give you a heads up.

bruceames
02-18-2008, 09:02 AM
Hey Bruce, don't let go of your HD DVD player, the Samsung won't play well over half of my backup dvd's. I have been having to dig out my originals if I want to watch sd dvd movies on my Samsung. I am glad I still have my A2, it plays everything I throw at it. Needless to say I don't use the Samsung very often, only for rental BD's. Just wanted to give you a heads up.

So you have the same player, Eddie? I was curious as to how the XA2 and the 1200 compared in upscaling, since both have the REON. But it's not even close on my display, the XA2 blows it away, so the Sammy won't be seeing many DVDs. Furthermore the Sammy won't pillarbox 4:3 material anyway (AFAIK), but I do like the DVD bookmark feature. I wish the XA2 had it because of the TV on DVD more than anything.

So rather than let it go, on the contrary I bought a spare because I use the XA2 for DVDs as well.

tomes
02-18-2008, 09:02 AM
Good luck, the incentive to release "big catalogue" content went through the floor with the demise of HD DVD. Now they might as well just plonk out big name day and dates, rather than expensive box sets for TV and older catalogue titles.

I really hope I'm wrong mind. But that was the best factor about the format war IMO.

I'm sure you agree that *most* shows probably would never have come out on HDDVD either. There are only certain cult/classic shows that warrant the special treatment to get it out on HD. HDM is inherently more costly to prepare content for (HD Mastering/Re-Mastering, cleanup, Special FX redo's, Authoring etc..)

Nikopol
02-18-2008, 09:11 AM
I'm sure you agree that *most* shows probably would never have come out on HDDVD either. There are only certain cult/classic shows that warrant the special treatment to get it out on HD. HDM is inherently more costly to prepare content for (HD Mastering/Re-Mastering, cleanup, Special FX redo's, Authoring etc..)

Not arguing your point in general, but there are many HighDef transfers available already: all the stuff on cable/sat. Sure, they still need to be authored to disc, maybe cleaned up, distributed etc.

If you look at many of the earlier Universal catalog titles, they didnīt put much effort in restoring them imo. Some are even infested with massive edge enhancement, and it didnīt stop Universal from releasing them on HD DVD.

rrrrrroger
02-18-2008, 10:47 AM
He's been reported. Don't expect to see his posts much longer.

Ya might want to read this (just posted a few messages before yours): Oh.

So I was being an insensitive jerk.

I apologize.

MikeRox
02-18-2008, 11:20 AM
I'm sure you agree that *most* shows probably would never have come out on HDDVD either. There are only certain cult/classic shows that warrant the special treatment to get it out on HD. HDM is inherently more costly to prepare content for (HD Mastering/Re-Mastering, cleanup, Special FX redo's, Authoring etc..)

I wasn't going to say they'd have come out on HD DVD, but a lot of the cult things would probably have got the HD treatment sooner with HD DVD around (even if they were released on Blu-ray) simply because it's content that could likely get newcomers onto their system.

I believe thats why Star Trek was released as it was. I mean a Blu-ray version was never announced, even before Paramount went HD DVD exclusive, I believe that was actually a bought exclusive as Toshiba hoped a lot of trekkies would buy HD DVD players for it. Maybe if they'd charged $80 or so instead of $200 they would have done.

MikeRox
02-18-2008, 11:21 AM
Ya might want to read this (just posted a few messages before yours):

Sounds like a gracious and sincere appology...:banghead:

rrrrrroger
02-19-2008, 06:05 AM
Sounds like a gracious and sincere appology...:banghead:

It was sincere.