KEEBS1984 01-22-2008, 03:04 PM So I was crawling over Google News, just to find some stuff about politics and other things non-movie related and saw a few articles as such.
I'm not sure if they are real or not, but most seem pretty legit. Especially the Access Hollywood one. They were all posted about 5 minutes ago. . .
This doesn't have anything really to do with Blu-ray or HD DVD, but he was/is still an amazing actor. For those who don't know him he plays as Joker in the upcoming Batman film by Warner Bros.
Here are the article I could find on the matter:
http://www.accesshollywood.com/article/8120/Heath-Ledger-Found-Dead-In-New-York-Apartment/
http://ktar.com/?nid=37&sid=709502
http://www.wltx.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=57608
Seems to be real. . . so sad!
:(
kamspy 01-22-2008, 03:08 PM Seems real.
Sorry to hear that.
HD Goofnut 01-22-2008, 03:08 PM Yep, it's true look here:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080122/ap_en_ce/obit_ledger_3
Bravestime 01-22-2008, 03:09 PM For sure. All over Fox News Network. First reports, possible drug related. Police reported at scene and try to revive him, but failed.
Radbug 01-22-2008, 03:09 PM it's running on CNN as well. Damned shame.
DVD+RW 01-22-2008, 03:15 PM Very sad.
He was a very good actor and had a huge potential.
It's really sad.
Rest in Peace
niennumb1 01-22-2008, 03:23 PM No rumor. Confirmed. Looks like he was found with pills around him. Way to go, Heath! You ruined your life. Way to put a damper on your future.
I'm sure we'll find out if the funeral video will be available on HDDVD or Bluray soon.
Sorry I had to make it appear that this thread belongs here. :)
Hitachi65SWX20B 01-22-2008, 03:24 PM I wonder if this will affect the new batman movie?
KEEBS1984 01-22-2008, 03:26 PM I wonder if this will affect the new batman movie?
Probably just a R.I.P. note at the end of the movie. . .
Such a shame, I have always been a huge fan of his movies especially A Knight's Tale. I was totally looking forward to seeing him play Joker many more times than in just this next movie as he looked totally B-A-D-A-S-S.
niennumb1 01-22-2008, 03:27 PM I wonder if this will affect the new batman movie?
I saw in a video clip that he was finished shooting Batman apparently.
ClashFan 01-22-2008, 03:28 PM I wonder if this will affect the new batman movie?
Yes and no. It had already finished filming, so it won't have a huge impact. He won't be around to do any promotional work for the movie, though, and he is the main villain. If they were planning on him being in a potential 3rd Batman movie, they might change the ending to kill the Joker off, if possible.
Could also create further interest in a movie that will likely be a huge blockbuster, anyways.
Then, if it turns out his alleged OD was a suicide, there will be "did getting so into being the Joker" push him over the edge type of stuff.
Sad sad day.
jugganutz 01-22-2008, 03:28 PM To bad he did he wasn't that bad of an actor. Damn women getting into men's minds.
No rumor. Confirmed. Looks like he was found with pills around him. Way to go, Heath! You ruined your life. Way to put a damper on your future.
I'm sure we'll find out if the funeral video will be available on HDDVD or Bluray soon.
Sorry I had to make it appear that this thread belongs here. :)
Jesus. You're a fucking asshole. Fuck off and die.
Hitachi65SWX20B 01-22-2008, 03:34 PM No rumor. Confirmed. Looks like he was found with pills around him. Way to go, Heath! You ruined your life. Way to put a damper on your future.
I'm sure we'll find out if the funeral video will be available on HDDVD or Bluray soon.
Sorry I had to make it appear that this thread belongs here. :)
This was pretty tasteless!
Alpha1 01-22-2008, 03:35 PM Yeah confirmed:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7203797.stm
Being famous has it's side effects, shame.
Oliver
Didn't Owen Wilson try to commit suicide this past year?
Such a shame that these people do not find a better way to deal with the stresses of their careers. It is not like they do not have the money to get help.
Too bad though none the less.
Bravestime 01-22-2008, 03:38 PM What I understand, he left behind a very young girl. This is the sad part out of this. She will grow up without a father, and one that took a pill overdose, sad. :(
Nikopol 01-22-2008, 03:39 PM such sad news..... :(
Bravestime 01-22-2008, 03:40 PM This was pretty tasteless!
Have to second that. That was a cold comment. :mad:
Quote:
Originally Posted by niennumb1
No rumor. Confirmed. Looks like he was found with pills around him. Way to go, Heath! You ruined your life. Way to put a damper on your future.
I'm sure we'll find out if the funeral video will be available on HDDVD or Bluray soon.
Sorry I had to make it appear that this thread belongs here.
What I understand, he left behind a very young girl. This is the sad part out of this. She will grow up without a father, and one that took a pill overdose, sad. :(
That is truly sad that he has a child and just makes it more tragic to me as a dad myself.
Didn't Owen Wilson try to commit suicide this past year?
Such a shame that these people do not find a better way to deal with the stresses of their careers. It is not like they do not have the money to get help.
Too bad though none the less.
Have some sympathy, PFC. People who commit suicide are disturbed and I bet he didn't want help or didn't have the willpower to seek it. He wasn't some little teenybopper wristcutter showing off his chicken scratches hoping to get some sympathy, he genuinely wanted to die and that's damn sad if you ask me.
El Despairado 01-22-2008, 03:51 PM I think you guys are jumping to conclusions that this was a suicide. Sort of disrespectful, IMO. This was a very talented young actor and this really horrible news for movie fans.
So, can anyone confirm that filming on The Dark Knight was indeed wrapped up???
Stew4HD 01-22-2008, 03:52 PM I think you guys are jumping to conclusions that this was a suicide. Sort of disrespectful, IMO. This was a very talented young actor and this really horrible news for movie fans.
So, can anyone confirm that filming on The Dark Knight was indeed wrapped up???
I was thinking the same thing.. we aren't sure it was suicide.. who knows ..yet? It could have been accidental, mixing highs, etc..
Sad news all the same.
I was thinking the same thing.. we aren't sure it was suicide.. who knows ..yet? It could have been accidental, mixing highs, etc..
Sad news all the same.
A bottle of OTC sleeping meds lying next to his dead body. I don't think it was accidental...
kamspy 01-22-2008, 03:58 PM A bottle of OTC sleeping meds lying next to his dead body. I don't think it was accidental...
Thank you.
Now can Captain Obvious make a trip to Desperado's house?
El Despairado 01-22-2008, 04:00 PM You people are pricks. Who knows what happened? There could have been an interaction with the pills, etc. It was probably suicide, but it could have been accidental and some of the tone you guys use in your post paints a different picture. That's what I found disrespectful.
Man, based on all the buzz about this roll, and everything I've heard from critics who have seen more of his portrayal of the joker than what fans have been exposed too, it was worthy of an Oscar Nomination. Has an Oscar ever been awarded posthumously before?
Bravestime 01-22-2008, 04:01 PM All that they are confirming at this point is pills were found at his bed side and it was a overdose. There is speculation of an accidental overdose. This is what FOX news has been stating.
jnester74 01-22-2008, 04:03 PM This is just horrible. I have always felt he was a very talented actor.
Stew4HD 01-22-2008, 04:03 PM A bottle of OTC sleeping meds lying next to his dead body. I don't think it was accidental...
Police: Pills that appear to be over-the-counter sleeping medication found near bed
Hardly the drug of choice for taking one's life. Why can't we wait until we read the full report?
Oh well, you guys will choose to believe what you want anyway.
El Despairado 01-22-2008, 04:04 PM Police: Pills that appear to be over-the-counter sleeping medication found near bed
Hardly the drug of choice for taking one's life. Why can't we wait until we read the full report?
Oh well, you guys will choose to believe what you want anyway.
Exactly, but the flame baiting douchebags on our forum will of course play this up as a deliberate suicide right off the bat.
I don't know why people can't be more respectful when something like this happens.
BTW, another talented young actor Brad Renfro died of an overdose last week. It's sad seeing all these people my age dying left and right :(
jnester74 01-22-2008, 04:06 PM In all honesty. I have a lot of history dealing with suicides. I've lost some people in my life that way. I'm not usre of the real numbers But I would say 99% of suicides leave a note. They have said nothing about a note.
I really feel this was an accident. They are also saying he wasn't gettting any sleep doing the movie.
adhood 01-22-2008, 04:13 PM Seriously who cares if it was suicide or not.
There is a little girl somewhere who will never see her dad again.
My prayers go out to the family.
R.I.P. Heath Ledger.
tomes 01-22-2008, 04:15 PM R.i.p
jnester74 01-22-2008, 04:15 PM Seriously who cares if it was suicide or not.
There is a little girl somewhere who will never see her dad again.
My prayers go out to the family.
R.I.P. Heath Ledger.
Yah I agree. It is just really sad.
Bravestime 01-22-2008, 04:17 PM WOW, Even during a sincere thread starts of a death of a great talent, here we are once again with the name calling and "flamebaiting"! This is sad! Can we at least have some respect for such threads! Please
El Despairado 01-22-2008, 04:22 PM WOW, Even during a sincere thread starts of a death of a great talent, here we are once again with the name calling and "flamebaiting"! This is sad! Can we at least have some respect for such threads! Please
Well, it sucks, I agree. I just get pissed off because the same people you see flaimbaiting the boards constantly are the very ones proclaiming this was an intentional suicide, etc. It was very predictable behavior and it sucks. Anyway, sorry I flew off the handle with the "douchebags" comment, but that's the reason why.
I really feel bad for his little girl.
Chris Gerhard 01-22-2008, 04:27 PM What I understand, he left behind a very young girl. This is the sad part out of this. She will grow up without a father, and one that took a pill overdose, sad. :(
I feel terrible for his parents and his daughter and anyone else in his family, this is such a terrible tragedy and at 28. Apparently another voluntary accidental drug overdose, when will it end?
R.I.P. Mr. Ledger, I am sure sorry to have say that.
Chris
R.I.P Sad day I was really looking forward to seeing his portrayal of the Joker in the DK. I don't think I'll enjoy it as much knowing the man died leaving a young girl without her father. Real shame!!
Chris Gerhard 01-22-2008, 04:36 PM BTW, another talented young actor Brad Renfro died of an overdose last week. It's sad seeing all these people my age dying left and right :(
Yes, he had fought drug addiction some years before apparently accidentally killing himself the old fashioned way, with heroin. Although he had been arrested repeatedly for heroin related charges, I guess his cause of death is still pending an autopsy. It really is sad and all of them should know the likelihood of the outcome when they try this. I will never understand why it is worth the risk. It is all really sad, and it isn't like my age group is doing much better.
Chris
sodrock 01-22-2008, 04:45 PM sorry, I have no sympathy for drug overdose.
sodrock 01-22-2008, 04:48 PM Exactly, but the flame baiting douchebags on our forum will of course play this up as a deliberate suicide right off the bat.
I don't know why people can't be more respectful when something like this happens.
Respectful of whom? The man lying on the floor after having overdosed? Is he that self-centered he couldn't look for help, if not for him his young girl? If this is going to be an open thread you are going to get varied opinions. I will pray for his family this evening and his soul. :(
oleviarules 01-22-2008, 04:53 PM i remember hearing a while back he got really depressed during the filming of DK, getting too into character or something to that effect. i'm interested in the details and feel very bad for the family.
sopranocaponyc 01-22-2008, 05:09 PM wow this is sad....RIP...puts this whole format war in perspective.dont ya think
cbcdesign 01-22-2008, 05:09 PM Respectful of whom? The man lying on the floor after having overdosed? Is he that self-centered he couldn't look for help, if not for him his young girl? If this is going to be an open thread you are going to get varied opinions. I will pray for his family this evening and his soul. :(
First off I am very sad to hear this. He was a good actor with a very prommising future ahead of him.
Second sodrock, dont make judgements about people. You have no idea what sort of pressure fame imposes on individuals and it's very east to go OTT on drugs when you have the sort of money these people do.
hippy fascist 01-22-2008, 05:22 PM Supposedly people did say he was acting very strange on the set, but most people were talking as if he was simply method acting.
He wasn't that great an actor but it's still fucked up :(
cbcdesign 01-22-2008, 05:38 PM It could have been the method acting that inadvertently killed him. Apparently he was have trouble sleeping during the making of the batman movie and when interviewed stated that playing a deranged character was taking its toll on him. Who knows what happened but it's very sad.
Hvnsent309 01-22-2008, 05:49 PM As of 5 minutes ago (per FOX News) they have not found a note... Considering it has been 4 plus hours, I'm thinking if they haven't found one yet, then they probably won't. There is also reports that he was ill (pnemonia?) and I don't know about you, but when I am really sick I am out of it... how easy could it be to grab the wrong bottle out of the medicine cabinet? My thoughts and prayers are with his family, who I am sure are beyond devestated.
v1001 01-22-2008, 05:50 PM That was really unexpected. Such a shame and loss. I'm really looking forward to seeing him in the New Batman too. Looks like he did a phenomenal job.
I feel really bad for his little girl. Poor thing.
And a lot of you need to be more respectful. I think you've watched far to many movies and have dulled your sensitivity.
Jimmy Smith 01-22-2008, 06:02 PM May he rest in peace. Sad news really young too:( :crying:
hippy fascist 01-22-2008, 06:09 PM That was really unexpected. Such a shame and loss. I'm really looking forward to seeing him in the New Batman too. Looks like he did a phenomenal job.
I feel really bad for his little girl. Poor thing.
And a lot of you need to be more respectful. I think you've watched far to many movies and have dulled your sensitivity.
Dude, I'm not gonna pretend the guy was talented and saintly just because he's dead now
Too much of that crap when princess diana died
It's sad he died, and it's horrible for his little girl but the guy was average at best
It's shocking and it's horrible for all those DIRECTLY involved, but I'm not one of those people
Hvnsent309 01-22-2008, 06:14 PM In YOUR opinion he was average at best.... How respectful is it that you couldn't respond without getting that little dig in? I wonder what people will say about YOU when you are gone?
Jimmy Smith 01-22-2008, 06:14 PM Dude, I'm not gonna pretend the guy was talented and saintly just because he's dead now
Too much of that crap when princess diana died
It's sad he died, and it's horrible for his little girl but the guy was average at best
It's shocking and it's horrible for all those DIRECTLY involved, but I'm not one of those people
I wasn't a big fan of his either but your being kind of dick to critize his acting right after his death man. I mean Im sure he was flawed like all of us but on the eve of his death its best to show respect. I look forward to The Dark Knight and seeing his final preformance.
Bleedgreen71 01-22-2008, 06:14 PM As of 5 minutes ago (per FOX News) they have not found a note... Considering it has been 4 plus hours, I'm thinking if they haven't found one yet, then they probably won't. There is also reports that he was ill (pnemonia?) and I don't know about you, but when I am really sick I am out of it... how easy could it be to grab the wrong bottle out of the medicine cabinet? My thoughts and prayers are with his family, who I am sure are beyond devestated.
Most people who use notes fail to kill themselves and its a cry for help. you will not find notes with most successful suicides. I just hope for his sake, it was painless. Let him RIP.
hippy fascist 01-22-2008, 06:20 PM I wasn't a big fan of his either but your being kind of dick to critize his acting right after his death man. I mean Im sure he was flawed like all of us but on the eve of his death its best to show respect. I look forward to The Dark Knight and seeing his final preformance.
I'm not criticizing him as a human being
Every human life lost is a tragedy
I'm actually just pissed off at all the posts kissing his ass
This is a celebrity that died
When your next door neighbour dies do people who've never met him all across the world suddenly start acting as if they were a saint?
Mother teresa and princess diana died in the same week
Mother teresa was relegated to a footnote on the nine oclock news while 24hr coverage of a worthless blonde took up every channel
There are people dieing in wars all over the world
There are good people guaranteed to die every day of your life.
So why does the world suddenly have to stop because some hearthrob died
Not to mention the fact that if this was suicide (considering he had a 2 year old daughter) then the man's a coward who abandoned his family.
That may come across as harsh but I just see it as fact
cbcdesign 01-22-2008, 06:26 PM Diana was not just another worthless blonde. She did a lot to help people. I grant you that Mother teresa didn't get the coverage she deserved but the country was deeply affected by Diana's untimely demise. I suspect age has a lot do to with this to be honest. Diana was young and Heath Ledger was young so its more tragic.
hippy fascist 01-22-2008, 06:27 PM Diana never did anything unless there was a camera pointed at her
cbcdesign 01-22-2008, 06:31 PM Let's not get into the media debate. Suffice it to say though that as a public figure she did more to try and help people than other more self serving public figures have done and for that she deserves to be remembered as somebody of merit, not a worthless blonde.
Dr. Jones 01-22-2008, 07:42 PM A bottle of OTC sleeping meds lying next to his dead body. I don't think it was accidental...
If you take more than a couple of those pills there is a reverse effect, instead of getting sleepy you bounce off the walls. it is very difficult to kill yourself with non-narcotic drugs. In any case it's very sad. Method actors always seem to have the most difficulties in dealing with life it seems.
What's really pathetic is that some people here have no respect for anything. It's disgusting.
Have some sympathy, PFC. People who commit suicide are disturbed and I bet he didn't want help or didn't have the willpower to seek it. He wasn't some little teenybopper wristcutter showing off his chicken scratches hoping to get some sympathy, he genuinely wanted to die and that's damn sad if you ask me.
I do have sympathy. Sorry if my post didn't come off that way.
I agree that it is damn sad and shows that money & fame does not make someone happy I guess. It really is a shame that ANYONE actually thinks of suicide as a way out though. Too bad those close to both of them didn't see the signs and try to help.
Jimmy Smith 01-22-2008, 08:32 PM I do have sympathy. Sorry if my post didn't come off that way.
I agree that it is damn sad and shows that money & fame does not make someone happy I guess. It really is a shame that ANYONE actually thinks of suicide as a way out though. Too bad those close to both of them didn't see the signs and try to help.
Everyone is assuming its a sucide. That hasn't been confirmed yet. Its quite likely that it was an accident. I would wait a bit before assuming.
siccivic420 01-22-2008, 10:06 PM I think it was not on purpose cause they said that after he started filming THE DARK NIGHT(which will be on blu-ray only) he had a hard time sleeping because of the part that he played and he was sleeping only 1 hour for every 2 pills of ambian or something like that.It suck's cause i thought he was a great actor.:(
Liquidx 01-22-2008, 10:21 PM Jesus. You're a fucking asshole. Fuck off and die.
I'm not sticking up for what he said, since I feel that it was a little uncalled for, but I don't feel sorry for anyone who CHOOSES to take that path in life and make those decisions.
I feel sorry for his family, not for him... assuming this was drug related and not accidental.
Brad Renfro recently passed away as well from a drug related episode and I absolutely loved "The Cure". That was quite shocking, but I don't feel bad for him either.
iDarren 01-22-2008, 11:40 PM This is a celebrity that died
This is a human being who died.
Dr. Jones 01-23-2008, 12:23 AM I'm not sticking up for what he said, since I feel that it was a little uncalled for, but I don't feel sorry for anyone who CHOOSES to take that path in life and make those decisions.
I feel sorry for his family, not for him... assuming this was drug related and not accidental.
Brad Renfro recently passed away as well from a drug related episode and I absolutely loved "The Cure". That was quite shocking, but I don't feel bad for him either.
It's easy to judge someone when you haven't had to walk their path.
Liquidx 01-23-2008, 12:38 AM It's easy to judge someone when you haven't had to walk their path.
Right so suddenly drug abuse is an acceptable part of life and death?
Drugs and alcohol are not forced upon anyone and it's sad that some choose to resort to those options as a way of escaping their real issues.
You don't solve a wrong with another wrong.
Dr. Jones 01-23-2008, 12:44 AM Right so suddenly drug abuse is an acceptable part of life and death?
Drugs and alcohol are not forced upon anyone and it's sad that some choose to resort to those options as a way of escaping their real issues.
You don't solve a wrong with another wrong.
Yes, go on thinking that. I'd just love to see how well you would cope with rape, abuse and depression though. I'd love to see what you did to get you through another day or even another hour while you deal with circumstances you have no control over and that were forced upon you. Maybe drink? Beat your wife? Your kids? Or worse, ignore them? Or perhaps something more sinister or saddening.
You're a fool to judge someone else when you have no idea what they have been through to bring them to that point in their lives.
It's quite pathetic really.
Liquidx 01-23-2008, 12:59 AM Yes, go on thinking that. I'd just love to see how well you would cope with rape, abuse and depression though. I'd love to see what you did to get you through another day or even another hour while you deal with circumstances you have no control over and that were forced upon you. Maybe drink? Beat your wife? Your kids? Or worse, ignore them? Or perhaps something more sinister or saddening.
You're a fool to judge someone else when you have no idea what they have been through to bring them to that point in their lives.
It's quite pathetic really.
So I'm a fool because I have a different opinion than you?
Well then, I guess that settles it. :rolleyes:
Drugs aren't forced onto anyone, deal with that fact. So by your logic, what everyone does when having a difficult time coping with rough times and past experiences... is DO DRUGS!
How about some fucking counseling instead?
Joe_news 01-23-2008, 02:12 AM I can't believe he is died, he just finished filming for the new batman I read :(
He had a kid he loved, so I doubt he killed himself. Damn shame if it was in fact a drug overdose he could have avoided if he had stayed clean [we don't know yet]. Can't say I believe in his views on social issues; but, other then that one movie, I liked his movies. I remember seeing A Knights Tale in high school when we were doing shakespear [offtopic I know] and he could act. If they brought it to BluRay I'd get it, it was pretty entertaining.
Chris Gerhard 01-23-2008, 03:56 AM sorry, I have no sympathy for drug overdose.
I have great sympathy for the families left heartbroken, struggling with questions of what might have been done to help. Why so many young talented people kill themselves like this is beyond my understanding, but considering we are all human and subject to mistakes, I have sympathy for any tragedy of any nature. I am critical of their choices while they are alive, but cease being judgmental after the all too common end to the problem, death my accidental overdose. I wasn't even aware Heath had a drug problem, so many of the group that has the problem are constantly in the tabloids. I might have just missed it in this case.
Let's wait for an autopsy or determination of cause of death before being too critical of the young Mr. Ledger.
Chris
Chris Gerhard 01-23-2008, 06:11 AM Apparently the notorious unnamed sources are now indicating Heath had a heroin addiction problem he was battling as well. The news also indicates he died in Mary-Kate Olsen's apartment.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=509837&in_page_id=1773
Chris
niennumb1 01-23-2008, 08:48 AM Apparently the notorious unnamed sources are now indicating Heath had a heroin addiction problem he was battling as well. The news also indicates he died in Mary-Kate Olsen's apartment.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=509837&in_page_id=1773
Chris
I believe it was CNN I saw a video clip of a reporter who debunked the Olsen twin rumor that it was in her apartment. There's nothing relating them in where he was staying. Nothing owned by Olsen.
I have great sympathy for the families left heartbroken, struggling with questions of what might have been done to help. Why so many young talented people kill themselves like this is beyond my understanding, but considering we are all human and subject to mistakes, I have sympathy for any tragedy of any nature. I am critical of their choices while they are alive, but cease being judgmental after the all too common end to the problem, death my accidental overdose. I wasn't even aware Heath had a drug problem, so many of the group that has the problem are constantly in the tabloids. I might have just missed it in this case.
Let's wait for an autopsy or determination of cause of death before being too critical of the young Mr. Ledger.
Chris
I agree completely Chris. The real aftermath is all the close family & friends feeling guilty that they didn't do something to help even if there was nothing they could have done that they didn't already try.
It is a real shame that the ones hurt most by a death are the loved ones who survive that death.
KEEBS1984 01-23-2008, 10:09 AM I can't believe he is died, he just finished filming for the new batman I read :(
He had a kid he loved, so I doubt he killed himself. Damn shame if it was in fact a drug overdose he could have avoided if he had stayed clean [we don't know yet]. Can't say I believe in his views on social issues; but, other then that one movie, I liked his movies. I remember seeing A Knights Tale in high school when we were doing shakespear [offtopic I know] and he could act. If they brought it to BluRay I'd get it, it was pretty entertaining.
I've got good news for you. Check it out:
http://www.amazon.com/Knights-Tale-Blu-ray-Heath-Ledger/dp/B000EZ7ZYU/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1201108070&sr=8-4
I'm thinking about picking it up for myself. Always loved the movie, but never owned it. . .
R.I.P.
Superman 01-23-2008, 10:38 AM I think it was not on purpose cause they said that after he started filming THE DARK NIGHT(which will be on blu-ray only) (
Did this little tidbit even need to be said? Jesus, some of you trolls will do anything to push your agenda. :rolleyes:
Dr. Jones 01-23-2008, 11:00 AM I have great sympathy for the families left heartbroken, struggling with questions of what might have been done to help. Why so many young talented people kill themselves like this is beyond my understanding, but considering we are all human and subject to mistakes, I have sympathy for any tragedy of any nature. I am critical of their choices while they are alive, but cease being judgmental after the all too common end to the problem, death my accidental overdose. I wasn't even aware Heath had a drug problem, so many of the group that has the problem are constantly in the tabloids. I might have just missed it in this case.
Let's wait for an autopsy or determination of cause of death before being too critical of the young Mr. Ledger.
Chris
The Tabloids are one of my wife's guilty pleasures, and she was shocked to hear about it. So if he had a drug problem I think he kept it well under wraps.
Dr. Jones 01-23-2008, 11:05 AM So I'm a fool because I have a different opinion than you?
Well then, I guess that settles it. :rolleyes:
Drugs aren't forced onto anyone, deal with that fact. So by your logic, what everyone does when having a difficult time coping with rough times and past experiences... is DO DRUGS!
How about some fucking counseling instead?
Yes, you have the right to your opinion, of course you do. You also have to face the consequences for voicing that opinion.
It's a shame that not all human beings can be as strong as you. heh. Then again if we all walked your path maybe we wouldn't need to be strong.
hippy fascist 01-23-2008, 11:33 AM Christianity strikes again
http://www.godhatesfags.com/written/fliers/20080122_heath-ledger-brokeback-mountain.pdf
SOBAY310 01-23-2008, 11:59 AM Hey GLOW, didn't you have Heath as your avatar for a couple of weeks? An image of him playing the Joker I believe.
If so, do me a favor and don't put me as your avatar anytime soon. :eek:
Hey GLOW, didn't you have Heath as your avatar for a couple of weeks? An image of him playing the Joker I believe.
If so, do me a favor and don't put me as your avatar anytime soon. :eek:
Yup. Kind of eerie, isn't it?
Maybe I should make my avatar a shot of Tom Brady. It would certainly help give me better odds at my Super Bowl bets on the Giants! :thumbsup:
Just kidding, Mr. Brady. I don't want you to die, I just want you to lose! :thumbsup:
Liquidx 01-23-2008, 01:01 PM Yes, you have the right to your opinion, of course you do. You also have to face the consequences for voicing that opinion.
It's a shame that not all human beings can be as strong as you. heh. Then again if we all walked your path maybe we wouldn't need to be strong.
What consequence, the one in which you clearly believe that doing drugs is an acceptable option for dealing with tragic events?
No offense, but I'd hate to have someone who truly thinks that close to me.
Oh an here is an interesting tidbit on this news...
What does one do with a rolled up $20 bill?
http://www6.comcast.net/entertainment/articles/movies/2008/01/23/Heath.Ledger/
tomes 01-23-2008, 01:03 PM Everyone, can we please stop bickering about this subject? A person died yesterday, let him Rest In Peace, please.
Jimmy Smith 01-23-2008, 11:08 PM Christianity strikes again
http://www.godhatesfags.com/written/fliers/20080122_heath-ledger-brokeback-mountain.pdf
Fuck you.
Phelps doesn't represent Christianity. I was no fan of Brokeback Mountain. Never seen it and never plan too. Still 99.99% of devote Christians like myself would agree he deserves a respectful bearial. Anti-Christian assholes like you love using a couple random kooks to disgrass the largest religon on Earth and the religon responsible for all western civilazation.
kamspy 01-23-2008, 11:11 PM What consequence, the one in which you clearly believe that doing drugs is an acceptable option for dealing with tragic events?
No offense, but I'd hate to have someone who truly thinks that close to me.
Oh an here is an interesting tidbit on this news...
What does one do with a rolled up $20 bill?
http://www6.comcast.net/entertainment/articles/movies/2008/01/23/Heath.Ledger/
Snorts cool stuff!!!!!:D
Chris Gerhard 01-24-2008, 07:14 AM I haven't seen this mentioned here, but it is now being reported that his parents heard about his death on the radio. It is incomprehensible to me to know the grief one feels with the loss of a child, but to know they heard about it on the radio makes it even more heartbreaking for me to think about.
Chris
What consequence, the one in which you clearly believe that doing drugs is an acceptable option for dealing with tragic events?
No offense, but I'd hate to have someone who truly thinks that close to me.
Oh an here is an interesting tidbit on this news...
What does one do with a rolled up $20 bill?
http://www6.comcast.net/entertainment/articles/movies/2008/01/23/Heath.Ledger/
Well, I guess Stew was right. He was mixing highs and OD'ed. I'm glad he (probably) didn't commit suicide. Or, I guess if he was doing blows, he was trying to over do it will all the pills and heroin in order to commit suicide.
Off-topic for an off-topic thread: Do you think Warner or the director will change the ending if the Joker was originally supposed to die because of Heath's death? There are ways to edit the movie and/or use CG to make it so he lives at the end...
Off-topic for an off-topic thread: Do you think Warner or the director will change the ending if the Joker was originally supposed to die because of Heath's death? There are ways to edit the movie and/or use CG to make it so he lives at the end...
That sounds logical doesn't it? Make his character live so they have to recast it in the next one?
If Joker dies, they won't change a thing.
Jack Nicholson, after hearing about Heath Ledger's death: "I warned him"
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article717685.ece
Weird. I wonder if he's talking about playing the Joker role or drugs? :confused:
I haven't seen this mentioned here, but it is now being reported that his parents heard about his death on the radio. It is incomprehensible to me to know the grief one feels with the loss of a child, but to know they heard about it on the radio makes it even more heartbreaking for me to think about.
Chris
That is just horrible that his parents found out that way.
As a parent, the worst thing I could imagine happening in my life would be the death of one of my children before I have died. I do not know HOW I would be able to carry on if God forbid that ever happened.
cbcdesign 01-24-2008, 09:19 AM Fuck you.
Phelps doesn't represent Christianity. I was no fan of Brokeback Mountain. Never seen it and never plan too. Still 99.99% of devote Christians like myself would agree he deserves a respectful bearial. Anti-Christian assholes like you love using a couple random kooks to disgrass the largest religon on Earth and the religon responsible for all western civilazation.
I have never heard Devout christians swear like you do and I have two evangelical Christians in my own family. I very much doubt if your church leaders would be the least bit impressed with your foul language.
kamspy 01-24-2008, 11:08 AM I JUST CAN'T QUIT YOU!!:crying: :crying:
daleb 01-24-2008, 11:16 AM Jeez, poor Heath did not have this much attention when he was alive.
Let him rest in peace, already!
Jack Nicholson, after hearing about Heath Ledger's death: "I warned him"
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article717685.ece
Weird. I wonder if he's talking about playing the Joker role or drugs? :confused:
It's the Joker curse!! Except that Caesar Romero and Mark Hamill didn't seem to have any trouble with it. Or any other actor that ever played a dark psycho villain. Most of them have fun with it.
For those of you who never saw A Knight's Tale, check it out. (It's out on Blu-ray.) It's one of my favorite recent movies, and might go on be to one of my favorite movies of all time, if it's still good in 10 or 20 years. Also check out 10 Things I Hate About You (not available in HD).
Sorry, Brokeback Mountain bored the hell out of me.
tomes 01-24-2008, 11:37 AM Reminds me of Brandon Lee, who died during the shooting (literally..) of "The Crow". Heath's last movie is the Batman movie I suppose, and both characters wore face paint... kind of eerie.
quexos 01-24-2008, 11:40 AM Too bad for the actor that the "rumor" was not spilled by SuperXP, cause the poor guy would be alive then :huh
Too bad for the actor that the "rumor" was not spilled by SuperXP, cause the poor guy would be alive then :huh
LAME
jwebb1970 01-24-2008, 11:58 AM Jack Nicholson, after hearing about Heath Ledger's death: "I warned him"
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article717685.ece
Weird. I wonder if he's talking about playing the Joker role or drugs? :confused:
Warning about the RX drug Ambien, which Ledger had been prescibed (and seems to get doled out like candy by many doctors these days).
According to the NYPD press statement (saw it on CNN yesterday), the "rolled up $20" tested negative for drug residue & there was zero evidence of illegal drugs anywhere on the scene.
Won't know until the full autopsy/toxicology reports are in, but my guess is that it may have been a reaction from mixing certain RX drugs (probably not as "drug abuse", per se---only accidental) or perhaps Ledger simply stroked out/had an aneurysm or something & died in his sleep. Shit like that does happen to outwardly healthy people.
According to the NYPD, they do not think this was in any way a suicide.
Chris Gerhard 01-24-2008, 12:43 PM Warning about the RX drug Ambien, which Ledger had been prescibed (and seems to get doled out like candy by many doctors these days).
According to the NYPD press statement (saw it on CNN yesterday), the "rolled up $20" tested negative for drug residue & there was zero evidence of illegal drugs anywhere on the scene.
Won't know until the full autopsy/toxicology reports are in, but my guess is that it may have been a reaction from mixing certain RX drugs (probably not as "drug abuse", per se---only accidental) or perhaps Ledger simply stroked out/had an aneurysm or something & died in his sleep. Shit like that does happen to outwardly healthy people.
According to the NYPD, they do not think this was in any way a suicide.
All I saw on the $20 bill was there was no evidence of drugs visable, not that it had been tested and in fact it has been submitted for testing. That can't be done this quickly unless I mistaken. The autopsy results may not be available for ten days so we don't know whether all illegal drugs he had were in his system or whether he had none. It is just too early to know much about the cause of this tragedy. Accidental overdose seems most likely to me, it is just what drug or combination of drugs were in his system that is unknown.
A rolled up $20 bill by the deceased person is suspicious so just assuming it wasn't used to snort drugs is nice, but not necessarily correct.
Chris
kamspy 01-24-2008, 12:53 PM A rolled up $20 bill by the deceased person is suspicious so just assuming it wasn't used to snort drugs is nice, but not necessarily correct.
Chris
Are you a defense attorney?:D
kamspy 01-24-2008, 12:54 PM Too bad for the actor that the "rumor" was not spilled by SuperXP, cause the poor guy would be alive then :huh
LAME!
But hilarious!!!
Seriously, people die every day, do we start threads for all of them? Or just rich hollywood playboys?
Jimmy Smith 01-24-2008, 12:58 PM I have never heard Devout christians swear like you do and I have two evangelical Christians in my own family. I very much doubt if your church leaders would be the least bit impressed with your foul language.
I just can't stand my faith being attacked so ignorantly. Taking a few 1 in a million extremists and saying something like "Christianity Strikes Again" is extremly vile. I deplore what the Phelps do and I believe Jesus frowns at their sick hate and behavior. It seems anytime there is a tragedy of any kind in America those creeps are there to make everything alittle worse for the loved ones of those who die. The fact that they use a great religon to justify there hate is mind bonggling. Where Ledger spends eternity is not my business. I never new the guy and don't where he deserves to be. Still I know I am just a man and am in no position to judge anyone especially over a stupid movie part. Since Ledger is being buried in Australia I wonder if the Phelps are going there to protest. That gets those peices of human debree out of this country for a bit. Which is the only good thing I can find in this whole awful situation.
kamspy 01-24-2008, 01:01 PM I just can't stand my faith being attacked so ignorantly. Taking a few 1 in a million extremists and saying something like "Christianity Strikes Again" is extremly vile. I deplore what the Phelps do and I believe Jesus frowns at their sick hate and behavior. It seems anytime there is a tragedy of any kind in America those creeps are there to make everything alittle worse for the loved ones of those who die. The fact that they use a great religon to justify there hate is mind bonggling. Where Ledger spends eternity is not my business. I never new the guy and don't where he deserves to be. Still I know I am just a man and am in no position to judge anyone especially over a stupid movie part. Since Ledger is being buried in Australia I wonder if the Phelps are going there to protest. That gets those peices of human debree out of this country for a bit. Which is the only good thing I can find in this whole awful situation.
V for Vendetta and Shooter rule. So does Rage Against the Machine, Bad Religion, NOFX, Henry Rollins and other true Americans.
Not to mention my favorite: Michael Savage. Only good mainstream conservative voice IMO.
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