Channels show up multiple times

Hi there, I am new to satellite as of 2 days ago. The local channels appear on the guide like 3 times. For example, FOX is channel 002, but also shows up in the 6000 range and the 9000 range. What's the difference (if any)? Thanks!

Hi there, I am new to satellite as of 2 days ago. The local channels appear on the guide like 3 times. For example, FOX is channel 002, but also shows up in the 6000 range and the 9000 range. What's the difference (if any)? Thanks!

2 and the 6000 range are the HD version of this channel. It appears as 2 because this is the familiar location of this channel for those that live in your area. i.e. if you had antenna or perhaps cable. No difference in the PQ or appearance of these two. It was just mapped down to the lower digits for your convenience.

The 9000 range is the SD version.

Actually the mapped down channel at 2 could be either the HD or sd version unless the channel is there twice or three times. If it is the sd version, the background color on the guide will be the same as the rest of the dish guide, the HD version should show "HD" within the guide like it does with the channels located in the 6000 range, if you happen to have an OTA antenna hooked up, the color will be different (my 622's show these channels as yellow when the rest of the guide is a slightly blue in coloring.) If you press menu, then 6 then 9 (Local Channels) you can change or remove which ever version(s) you want except the OTA as this is the only spot they will show in.

Note: If you have the HD package you may see those channels next to the sd versions as well, ie: A&E twice at 118 and again at 9419.

Actually the mapped down channel at 2 could be either the HD or sd version unless the channel is there twice or three times. If it is the sd version, the background color on the guide will be the same as the rest of the dish guide, the HD version should show "HD" within the guide like it does with the channels located in the 6000 range, if you happen to have an OTA antenna hooked up, the color will be different (my 622's show these channels as yellow when the rest of the guide is a slightly blue in coloring.) If you press menu, then 6 then 9 (Local Channels) you can change or remove which ever version(s) you want except the OTA as this is the only spot they will show in.

Note: If you have the HD package you may see those channels next to the sd versions as well, ie: A&E twice at 118 and again at 9419.

I'd forgotten the mapped down channel numbers, like 2, show up as SD and HD. I set this preference to HD priority along time ago so I only see HD in that range.

I'd forgotten the mapped down channel numbers, like 2, show up as SD and HD. I set this preference to HD priority along time ago so I only see HD in that range.

That's what I thought, I leave both up as some shows are not HD and don't look that much different than the sd version. I have it this way so I can just pick either the HD or sd without going to the higher range to find the program. Since the OP was 'New', I posted so he might better understand what he may or may not be seeing since he probably had no idea what was set and how he could tell the difference. No slight to you, but I forget a lot of stuff myself due to how I have my settings. In fact I finally have two identical receivers just so I don't confuse one with the other.

Actually the mapped down channel at 2 could be either the HD or sd version unless the channel is there twice or three times. If it is the sd version, the background color on the guide will be the same as the rest of the dish guide, the HD version should show "HD" within the guide like it does with the channels located in the 6000 range, if you happen to have an OTA antenna hooked up, the color will be different (my 622's show these channels as yellow when the rest of the guide is a slightly blue in coloring.) If you press menu, then 6 then 9 (Local Channels) you can change or remove which ever version(s) you want except the OTA as this is the only spot they will show in.

Note: If you have the HD package you may see those channels next to the sd versions as well, ie: A&E twice at 118 and again at 9419.

After reading your post, I looked again for some specifics. FOX shows up twice as 002-00 (once as SD and once as HD). It then shows up as 6441 in HD and 8223 in SD. All 4 options have the same programming.

Also, ESPN shows up twice at channel 140 (again SD/HD). It is also channel 9424....again with the same programming.

I don't know if it matters, but I have the "America's Top 200" package. There is some sort of antenna but it's for the remote, so I doubt we're receiving channels OTA.

After reading your post, I looked again for some specifics. FOX shows up twice as 002-00 (once as SD and once as HD). It then shows up as 6441 in HD and 8223 in SD. All 4 options have the same programming.

Also, ESPN shows up twice at channel 140 (again SD/HD). It is also channel 9424....again with the same programming.

I don't know if it matters, but I have the "America's Top 200" package. There is some sort of antenna but it's for the remote, so I doubt we're receiving channels OTA.

There is another coax input located on the back of the receiver to use for OTA. Those channels would also appear at the low end numbers, ie 002-1 but the guide would be yellow. The ota channels would work off it's own tuner making it possible to have a seperate dvr recording than from the two sat tuners should you have a dual tuner dvr receiver.

There is another coax input located on the back of the receiver to use for OTA. Those channels would also appear at the low end numbers, ie 002-1 but the guide would be yellow. The ota channels would work off it's own tuner making it possible to have a seperate dvr recording than from the two sat tuners should you have a dual tuner dvr receiver.

That's actually pretty cool. So if there's no difference in programming, why do they show the same channels multiple times?

Gives you easy choice of sd or HD channel depending on whether program is sd or HD. If you go under menu, system setup, local channels: you can change the map down to only show what you want it do: either both, sd, HD or neither.

it seems to me that dish should only have one channel in HD then down convert for those still not using HD boxes. This would give them more than enough bandwith to have all the HD channels they want, and not have to add birds. It would seem to me cheaper to upgrade customers non HD boxes to non HD boxes that down convert hd signals to SD. Sending a new satellite up has got to be expensive.

it seems to me that dish should only have one channel in HD then down convert for those still not using HD boxes. This would give them more than enough bandwith to have all the HD channels they want, and not have to add birds. It would seem to me cheaper to upgrade customers non HD boxes to non HD boxes that down convert hd signals to SD. Sending a new satellite up has got to be expensive.

Do you realize there are a lot more non-HD receivers out there then HD ones. I have six recievers on my account, only two are HD. My sister has three, none are HD. If more than half customers had HD, upgrading the receivers would still cost more than sending up a new satellite.

i realize there are way more non hd recievers out there, but what is the true cost of the reciever? Anyway i do not want to get into a debate, i just had an idea, it just seems to be a waste to have the same HD channel in 2 places at a minimum, plus the SD channel. maybe i am oversimplifying things but if E* wants to be the HD leader it had better get some more HD channels up, and wasting bandwidth repeating channels to me is getting in the way.

i realize there are way more non hd recievers out there, but what is the true cost of the reciever? Anyway i do not want to get into a debate, i just had an idea, it just seems to be a waste to have the same HD channel in 2 places at a minimum, plus the SD channel. maybe i am oversimplifying things but if E* wants to be the HD leader it had better get some more HD channels up, and wasting bandwidth repeating channels to me is getting in the way.

Actually, any one channel is only at one place in the guide, Dish's software allows the channels to appear where ever they want them to. There would be more cost to have HD channels to become sd especially when the provider already provides both sd and HD themselves and to various providers. So it makes more sense for them to handle the conversion otherwise one provider could supply a better sd channel than others and that is something which would not stand well with the other providers

I believe I posted this about a month ago, speculating on the cost of replacing all SD receivers with HD - $20 billion or something like that.

Estimate 10 million SD receivers (probably low number since Dish has 13 million subs).

Estimate cost of replacement receiver as $200 (ViP211, or 622/722).


Does not count cost to upgrade/replace dish and labor.

If they're HD it will show up on your Default HD list, I found the multiple channel locations annoying. Go to locks, lock them out and it will remove the extra channel from your line up. Lock out all the other channels you will never watch or need for a smoother faster more compact guide.