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Why no surge protector

edders
12-05-2007, 09:34 AM
Since we got our 622DVR a few months ago it has had a problem which causes it to randomly turn itself off and go through the whole hard setup routine. Finally, asked DishNetwork to replace it which they are doing.

When I was on the phone they asked if it was connected to a surge protector, why? What can a surge protector do to such a device?

Ed

tcarcio
12-05-2007, 09:37 AM
I would think they meant that it would be good to have a surge protector to stop a spike or other problem that might be shutting the reciever down.

edders
12-05-2007, 10:42 AM
No, they said if it was hooked up to a surge protector to unplug the receiver and plug it directly into the wall. btw, did that but made not difference. Was wondering what a sp can do to mess up the receiver?

Ed

Loves2Watch
12-05-2007, 10:47 AM
Ed, 622's are infamous for heat related issues. Make sure your new one has plenty of ventilation and that dust is kept off it (dust gets in the fan, slows it down and voila, heat issues just like a computer). If you are putting it in or on an enclosed shelf it is advisable to install some additional cooling like an electronics fan you can purchase at Radio Shack. Hope this info helps.

daleb
12-05-2007, 11:06 AM
Ed, 622's are infamous for heat related issues. Make sure your new one has plenty of ventilation and that dust is kept off it (dust gets in the fan, slows it down and voila, heat issues just like a computer). If you are putting it in or on an enclosed shelf it is advisable to install some additional cooling like an electronics fan you can purchase at Radio Shack. Hope this info helps.

Good advice. I run a 4" fan on the left side to exhaust the heat which is just barely moving out with the fan Dish uses.

edders
12-05-2007, 11:44 AM
Am very cautious about component cooling. 622 has always been on top of shelf with nothing blocking ventilation. Notice it all their HD receivers seem to run a bit hot. If problem persists with replacement receiver will definitely consider adding a cooling fan.

cire50
12-05-2007, 12:56 PM
Am very cautious about component cooling. 622 has always been on top of shelf with nothing blocking ventilation. Notice it all their HD receivers seem to run a bit hot. If problem persists with replacement receiver will definitely consider adding a cooling fan.

What do do have under the 622 ??? They want the 622/722's to be by themselves or at least the very bottom shelf.

old corps
12-05-2007, 02:11 PM
I suggest the TOP shelf. Heat RISES. Just my :2cents .

ANOTHER Ed

cire50
12-05-2007, 02:17 PM
I suggest the TOP shelf. Heat RISES. Just my :2cents .

ANOTHER Ed

Exactly why you don't want it on the top shelf with say your AV receiver under it producing heating rising up to the 622/722.

jim5506
12-05-2007, 03:52 PM
FYI, the internal fan on the 622 only runs with bootup or reboot. I've actually opened mine and watched it. After bootup it stops totally and I have never observed it operate at any other time.

whitey
12-05-2007, 07:56 PM
I suggest the TOP shelf. Heat RISES. Just my :2cents .

ANOTHER Ed

actually hot air or heat is DISPLACED by cooler , denser air . so, in our age of political & scientific correctness, hot air in itself does not rise!! nothin personal.:huh :2cents :rolleyes:

Bravestime
12-05-2007, 09:11 PM
I actually had my 722 on the bottom shelf and it shutdown one day. Not sure but believe to high temp. I moved it to the top shelf which had more top clearance and ventilation holes and no further shutdowns since.

I do believe fans are a good idea. My equipment is in a enclosed entertainment center. I have a Onkyo 705 to install, but plan to open the back and possibly add a fan or two prior to installing unit.

I also have a surge protector conected to the 722. I would not think that a SP would cause a shutdown. :what:

edders
12-06-2007, 10:08 AM
FYI, the internal fan on the 622 only runs with bootup or reboot. I've actually opened mine and watched it. After bootup it stops totally and I have never observed it operate at any other time.


To respond, all our receivers are by themselves on the top shelf (622) or with about 6 inches air space above (others).

Mine always makes a sound as if the fan is running, will have to open it up and see. Do you think they will know that I did that?

Ed

edders
12-06-2007, 10:11 AM
actually hot air or heat is DISPLACED by cooler , denser air . so, in our age of political & scientific correctness, hot air in itself does not rise!! nothin personal.:huh :2cents :rolleyes:

Check your dictionary, that still qualifies as rising...in my humble reading.

Ed

whitey
12-06-2007, 06:27 PM
Check your dictionary, that still qualifies as rising...in my humble reading.

Ed

ok, so it could be said this way: when bush is DISPLACED in 2009, another person filled with HOT AIR will RISE to the occasion, politically speaking!! :haha: :2cents :2cents

jpfrasier
12-06-2007, 08:28 PM
ok, so it could be said this way: when bush is DISPLACED in 2009, another person filled with HOT AIR will RISE to the occasion, politically speaking!! :haha: :2cents :2cents

mama said "never trust whitey";)

edders
12-08-2007, 10:53 AM
I should wait to see how it works out, but Dish replaced the 622 with a 722 at no additional charge. It is up and running fine after the usual tech support activation call.

Someone mentioned that their DVR only ran the fan at startup, this seems either very quiet in the fan department or only turns on the fan when needed. Picture is great and the sound is a bit cleaner than the old one. Sometimes CNN was a bit distorted on male voices but this one is just fine. Was wondering if the old one was getting a bit of cpu noise in the audio circuit that was most noticeable at certain frequencies. Anyway, nice to have a new one...and it is BLACK!

Ed in Sacramento...going to Starbucks before becoming a couch potato for the day.

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