section8joe 11-29-2007, 06:24 PM I don't have a phone line inside my house. Dish charges $5 a month since I don't have my DVR hooked up to a phone line. Can I hook up a wireless ethernet adapter and plug it into to my DVR so I don't get the $5 fee? Has anyone done this? I don't want to run a Cat 5 cable from one side of my house to the other if I don't have to.
peekobi 11-29-2007, 06:28 PM If you ask just right, Dish will even send you one at no charge. They sent me a PX-441 which is a wireless jack set.
section8joe 11-29-2007, 06:38 PM If you ask just right, Dish will even send you one at no charge. Theynt me a PX-441 which is a wireless jack set.
really! Its a wireless ethernet adapter?
daleb 11-29-2007, 08:54 PM really! Its a wireless ethernet adapter?
No, PX-441 is a remote phone jack you plug into an AC receptacle.
By now, on ethernet connected receivers, it is no longer necessary to have a phone line.
The only real advantage of the phone line (if you use the ethernet capability also) is having a Caller ID message on your screen if someone calls. Otherwise, the ethernet connection is all you need.
But I think you need one or the other to avoid a charge.
section8joe 11-29-2007, 08:58 PM No, PX-441 is a remote phone jack you plug into an AC receptacle.
By now, on ethernet connected receivers, it is no longer necessary to have a phone line.
The only real advantage of the phone line (if you use the ethernet capability also) is having a Caller ID message on your screen if someone calls. Otherwise, the ethernet connection is all you need.
But I think you need one or the other to avoid a charge.
Sorry, I'm kinda confused. Is this is wireless phone jack or a wireless ethernet port? I don't have a working phone line so if it's a wireless phone jack it won't work for me.
daleb 11-29-2007, 10:55 PM Sorry, I'm kinda confused. Is this is wireless phone jack or a wireless ethernet port? I don't have a working phone line so if it's a wireless phone jack it won't work for me.
Not really wireless, it uses your home wiring.
The Phonex system (often under other names like RCA, GE, etc.)
consists of 2 units.
You plug one unit into an AC socket that is near a phone jack and plug an active phone line into the adapter unit.
Near the location of your Dish receiver you plug the 2nd unit into an AC outlet and run a phone line from that to the back of your Dish receiver (the RJ11 phone jack).
With wireless ethernet, you communicate with your wireless home router and use a wireless adapter plugged into the back of the Dish receiver (the RJ45 ethernet jack).
section8joe 11-30-2007, 06:05 AM So the PX-441 uses either the phone jack or the ethernet port?
ama299 11-30-2007, 08:19 AM If you don't have a working land line phone jack then this is not for you. Just a device so you don't have to run phone line
daleb 11-30-2007, 11:48 AM If you don't have a working land line phone jack then this is not for you. Just a device so you don't have to run phone line
This is true, although I use one (and wireless internet) on a VOIP line.
But it cuts out after about 15 seconds. It stays engaged long enough to flash Caller ID info. I don't need or use it for ordering anything from Dish.
djsegura 11-30-2007, 04:45 PM I you have a Vip 622 or 722 and you want to hook it up to your network you could go wireless with a adapter or you could also get a homeplug you would only need 1 since the 622/722 has the other end of the homeplug built in.
section8joe 11-30-2007, 05:31 PM How does a homeplug work? I have a 722? I also have a wireless internet network.
daleb 11-30-2007, 08:17 PM So the PX-441 uses either the phone jack or the ethernet port?
PHONE ONLY!!! IT'S A REMOTE PHONE CONNECTION NOTHING TO DO WITH ETHERNET. But with you not having a live phone line connection in your home it will not work anyway!
Read my post #6 again. Only the last sentence has anything to do with making an ethernet connection.
section8joe 11-30-2007, 08:26 PM [QUOTE=daleb;432622]PHONE ONLY!!! IT'S A REMOTE PHONE CONNECTION NOTHING TO DO WITH ETHERNET.
Im sorry... The first sentence of this thread states that I don't have a phone line. I'm not looking for anything dealing with a telephone line.
I don't know why you mentioned anything about the PX-441 ,since I don't have a phone line. I thought that maybe the PX-441 can somehow hook up to a router.
djsegura 11-30-2007, 10:40 PM How does a homeplug work? I have a 722? I also have a wireless internet network.
The home plug works by using the house electrical wiring to send the data almost like having a hardwire connection. You have a unit that would plug into a electrical outlet then it has a ethernet plug that you would plug into your network. You would normaly need a unit at the other end to plug into another electrical outlet and a network cable to the device but with the 622/722 it has the other end already built in so only on home plug is needed. Most are sold as pairs so you could use the 2nd one to hook up something else or sometimes you can find just a single unit on ebay.
section8joe 11-30-2007, 10:51 PM awesome I'll have to look for one...
thanks
Joe
section8joe 12-01-2007, 07:53 PM The home plug works by using the house electrical wiring to send the data almost like having a hardwire connection. You have a unit that would plug into a electrical outlet then it has a ethernet plug that you would plug into your network. You would normaly need a unit at the other end to plug into another electrical outlet and a network cable to the device but with the 622/722 it has the other end already built in so only on home plug is needed. Most are sold as pairs so you could use the 2nd one to hook up something else or sometimes you can find just a single unit on ebay.
Do you think this (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=712697&sku=C155-3048#productresources)will work? If not where can I get one? I called radio shack and best buy and they don't have them. I called dish network and they couldn't help me out at all. By the way I'm running a linksys router with an all mac network.
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416826619&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=2661900349B06
section8joe 12-01-2007, 09:11 PM http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416826619&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=2661900349B06
I know that will work. I'm looking for a homeplug because I think it will be a little cheaper. Plus my entertainment center is all maxed out. I really can't fit any more wires or components on it.
Thanks
Joe
section8joe 12-01-2007, 09:22 PM P.S. I know my original post was asking for a wireless internet adapter. I'd rather get the homeplug because i think it will be cheaper and maybe work out a little better for me. My entertainment center is a little crowded.
section8joe 12-01-2007, 09:40 PM P.S. I know my original post was asking for a wireless internet adapter. I'd rather get the homeplug because i think it will be cheaper and maybe work out a little better for me. My entertainment center is a little crowded.
djsegura 12-02-2007, 01:34 AM Do you think this (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=712697&sku=C155-3048#productresources)will work? If not where can I get one? I called radio shack and best buy and they don't have them. I called dish network and they couldn't help me out at all. By the way I'm running a linksys router with an all mac network.
What you are looking for is a Homeplug this device appears to be a power over ethernet adapter not a homeplug it is used to power certain devices instead of using a dc power source. If you only need 1 not a pair ebay is going to be your best bet.
daleb 12-02-2007, 11:32 AM [QUOTE=daleb;432622]PHONE ONLY!!! IT'S A REMOTE PHONE CONNECTION NOTHING TO DO WITH ETHERNET.
Im sorry... The first sentence of this thread states that I don't have a phone line. I'm not looking for anything dealing with a telephone line.
I don't know why you mentioned anything about the PX-441 ,since I don't have a phone line. I thought that maybe the PX-441 can somehow hook up to a router.
I only mentioned the PX-441 because you asked about it (post #3).
The caps were only for emphasis, not out of anger. :)
Sorry if I added confusion!
section8joe 12-03-2007, 11:28 AM I ordered a pair of homeplugs from ebay. They were only $20. I know I don't really need two but Im sure I'll use the other one for something. I'll let you guys know how things go.
Joe
palerider 12-04-2007, 12:30 PM The home plug works by using the house electrical wiring to send the data almost like having a hardwire connection. You have a unit that would plug into a electrical outlet then it has a ethernet plug that you would plug into your network. You would normaly need a unit at the other end to plug into another electrical outlet and a network cable to the device but with the 622/722 it has the other end already built in so only on home plug is needed. Most are sold as pairs so you could use the 2nd one to hook up something else or sometimes you can find just a single unit on ebay.
Yes, you can buy a single Homeplug device (aka Powerline adaptor) from several vendors. They are available on eBay, Newegg, Buy.com to name a few. I have been using IOGear Homeplug units for two years without a hitch. The single unit model number is GHPB32W and the two-unit kit is GHPB32W4. The rated speed is 14 mbps with an actual throughput of 8-10 mbps, plenty fast enough. IMHO, there's no need to waste your money on an 85 or 200 mbps device to connect your 622/722 to your network. My 722 phones home via ethernet and I've never been charged the $5.00 phone line fee. Finally, plug your receiver directly into a wall outlet, not a power strip or surge protector (unless the surge protector has a Homeplug compatible outlet, which some do).
palerider 12-04-2007, 12:32 PM Ooooooooops. Didn't read the second page. Sorry about that.
section8joe 12-06-2007, 02:20 PM I just wanted to let you know that I bought a homeplug from ebay and I got it all hooked up and working.
thanks for the help
Joe
bjupton 08-12-2009, 12:15 AM I realize this is a very old post, but got here via google.
Would a wireless "gaming" adapter work? It plugs into the Ethernet jack.
I realize this is a very old post, but got here via google.
Would a wireless "gaming" adapter work? It plugs into the Ethernet jack.
I just picked up one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124279&nm_mc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_-
Chris Gerhard 08-12-2009, 07:54 AM I realize this is a very old post, but got here via google.
Would a wireless "gaming" adapter work? It plugs into the Ethernet jack.
It should but the only way to know for sure is to try it with your router. I couldn't get a D-Link DGL-3420 adapter to work but had no problem getting a Linksys WGA600N ethernet to wireless adapter to work.
Chris
patmurphey 08-12-2009, 09:50 AM The home plug works by using the house electrical wiring to send the data almost like having a hardwire connection. You have a unit that would plug into a electrical outlet then it has a ethernet plug that you would plug into your network. You would normaly need a unit at the other end to plug into another electrical outlet and a network cable to the device but with the 622/722 it has the other end already built in so only on home plug is needed. Most are sold as pairs so you could use the 2nd one to hook up something else or sometimes you can find just a single unit on ebay.
I use home plug for remote ethernet connections, because wireless is too easy to hack, and I have too much personal financial information on my computers. If you don't have, the second unit, are you saying that there is some way to connect a 622 without it?
Bigloww 08-12-2009, 10:08 AM I realize this is a very old post, but got here via google.
Would a wireless "gaming" adapter work? It plugs into the Ethernet jack.
I have a Buffalo Wireless Extender "gaming adapter" that has 3 e-net ports. I have my 360 connected, but also had my A2 and 622 connected to it as well. It worked great for all 3. You can find these gaming adapters for as low as $40-$50, but many just have 1 enet port (if that matters)..
daleb 08-12-2009, 01:05 PM Powerline adapters are real no-brainers. The latest ones have 4 ports at the receiving end. Enough to cover most if not all your devices.
AcuraKidd 08-13-2009, 01:02 PM call customer service and tell them you need the "Home Plug" for your ethernet connection
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