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CAPTURE Directv HD programming

iamrot
11-05-2007, 05:19 PM
Hi,

I am building a new system and want to capture from my HD-DVR I think its a HR20-700

Anyways.. Does anyone know of a good video capture card I can use to record the video and audio from Directv DVR?

Or can I get the external Sata drive and get the files from there and convert it some how?

Please let me know!!

Thanks in advance for your help/suggestions.

-RoT

theshadow1234
11-06-2007, 06:22 AM
Hi,

I am building a new system and want to capture from my HD-DVR I think its a HR20-700

Anyways.. Does anyone know of a good video capture card I can use to record the video and audio from Directv DVR?

Or can I get the external Sata drive and get the files from there and convert it some how?

Please let me know!!

Thanks in advance for your help/suggestions.

-RoT



I know that there is nothing out there right now that allows you to see files inside the receivers. If there is, then i havent heard of it. :haha: Recording to a SATA drive will probably not help you either from what I read so the only alternative is get you that capture card. I found a good capture card that records any program in high def and regualr sd. There are lots of them out there and some have good reviews and poor but i found this one would be the one to do the job for me.
It's the ATI 600 USB tuner. http://www.everythingusb.com/ati_tv_wonder_600_usb_12922.html It's about $100.00 but it's well worth it. Fry's is where i got mine. Also it records at great quality. The out file is in MPeg1/2/4 format and comes with software to create DVDs. Personally i think the software sucks so I use Gordian Knot (Free and easy to use) to encode to XviD (Avi) to view on my PC. There is also better DVD authoring software out there to make your DVDs.

If you plan on capturing HD programming, I recommend hooking up a SATA external \ internal Drive on your PC/Laptop because you can run out of space quick. I have a Buffalo 500GB USB 2.0 external drive and works great.

Thanks
TS

TomLewandowski
11-06-2007, 08:06 AM
ATI 600 USB tuner

How does this device allow you to record HD content from a DVR? Looks like it'll only record OTA HD transmissions, not HD recordings from another source...like a DVR. It doesn't have HDMI or component inputs; just S-Video and composite video inputs.

theshadow1234
11-06-2007, 09:08 AM
How does this device allow you to record HD content from a DVR? Looks like it'll only record OTA HD transmissions, not HD recordings from another source...like a DVR. It doesn't have HDMI or component inputs; just S-Video and composite video inputs.


I don't believe it's "Real HD" that i am capturing because I use composite outputs from the DVR not the HDMI or components. The results are really excellent though. Audio is exceptable to. When i looked at the movie itself it was like watching a Widescreen High Quality DVD on my laptop which is all I need.

I'll be experimenting more soon but i don't think its HD format.

Thanks

TS

TomLewandowski
11-06-2007, 09:46 AM
I use the Turtle Beach Video Advantage PCI to capture/record from the HR20-700's S-Video out. When I record HD content (in uncompressed AVI format), then use a MPEG-2 compressor like TMPEnc, I also receive excellent 'DVD quality' 16x9 video results...that rival any other DVD I own. It's no longer HD, but it's the best I can achieve without a dedicated HD DVD recorder. The key is the mpeg-2 encoder; they are definitely NOT all created equal. Some do a rather poor job of encoding.

I also use Ulead's VideoStudio 11 so that I can render the audio track, seperately and create true Dolby Digital 5.1 audio. (VideoStudio lets you further mix 5.1 tracks, too, which is especially nice for content where the surround audio is rather weak.) Then I merge the rendered video and audio in Ulead's MovieFactory (or any other authoring software) to create the VIDEO_TS folder on my hard drive, which contians all the VOB, IFO, etc. files. Finally, I use Nero Burning ROM to burn the DVD. It sounds more complicated than it really is.

bruceames
11-06-2007, 10:29 AM
I'll be interested when I can capture and record 720p/1080i. Hopefully I won't have to wait until I connect an HD DVD burner.

theshadow1234
11-06-2007, 10:35 AM
I don't believe it's "Real HD" that i am capturing because I use composite outputs from the DVR not the HDMI or components.
TS

Correction:
I use S-VIdeo to.

TomLewandowski
11-06-2007, 10:57 AM
I'll be interested when I can capture and record 720p/1080i. Hopefully I won't have to wait until I connect an HD DVD burner.

They're here, but they're not cheap.

http://www.fullcompass.com/product/331279.html
http://www.4videoequipment.com/video/store2/scripts/prodView.asp?f=fgle&idproduct=3880
http://www.b2bvideosource.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BVS&Product_Code=OSPREY-700HD

A Bluray burner is cheaper.

theshadow1234
11-06-2007, 11:28 AM
They're here, but they're not cheap.

http://www.fullcompass.com/product/331279.html
http://www.4videoequipment.com/video/store2/scripts/prodView.asp?f=fgle&idproduct=3880
http://www.b2bvideosource.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BVS&Product_Code=OSPREY-700HD

A Bluray burner is cheaper.

Holy crap! $1300- $3500.00 is expensive for those things. I'd rather wait till they go down to 200 bucks. :)

JackVa1
11-06-2007, 11:55 AM
Do either the ATI 600 USB tuner or the Video Avantage PCI cards have a comperable lap top card?

If so do you have to open the laptop up to use it or does it go in a card slot?


Would you recommend capturing to a PC over using a DVD Burner for capture and record? I am not sure I want a PC near my TV set. It also is an extra step to the final product (DVD)

Thanks, guys

Rick0725
11-06-2007, 12:44 PM
I use the Turtle Beach Video Advantage PCI to capture/record from the HR20-700's S-Video out. When I record HD content (in uncompressed AVI format), then use a MPEG-2 compressor like TMPEnc, I also receive excellent 'DVD quality' 16x9 video results...that rival any other DVD I own. It's no longer HD, but it's the best I can achieve without a dedicated HD DVD recorder. The key is the mpeg-2 encoder; they are definitely NOT all created equal. Some do a rather poor job of encoding.

I also use Ulead's VideoStudio 11 so that I can render the audio track, seperately and create true Dolby Digital 5.1 audio. (VideoStudio lets you further mix 5.1 tracks, too, which is especially nice for content where the surround audio is rather weak.) Then I merge the rendered video and audio in Ulead's MovieFactory (or any other authoring software) to create the VIDEO_TS folder on my hard drive, which contians all the VOB, IFO, etc. files. Finally, I use Nero Burning ROM to burn the DVD. It sounds more complicated than it really is.

Tom...have an issue you may be able to help me with.

I have a very large TS file 720p PAL 16:9 format 448 dolby digital (18 Gig in 5 parts) from a satellite feed that I need to convert to dvd.

I converted the ts files to mpeg2 very nicely. pictures and sound are pristine.

there are around 8 or so spots on the file where there is a drop out/disruption of audio for a second or so from the satellite transmission.

When I go to create the dvd in ntsc 480p 16:9, when the conversion gets to the audio issue I either loose audio altogether or the video and audio are out of sink about a beat or so.

any ideas on how to fix the file (audio) so I can get a complete no issue dvd. the issue becomes frustrating when you wait almost 4 hours after crunching time to find out that the conversion failed.

theshadow1234
11-06-2007, 12:57 PM
From my experiencem, if you had audio problems from the original source (satellite transmission \ ts file \loss signal) then i don't think you can fix that. But if it happened after converting to mpeg or whatever format, then there are tools out there that you can sync the audio with the video on that files before you convert it to a dvd.

Thanks

bruceames
11-06-2007, 01:22 PM
A Bluray burner is cheaper.

No thanks. :cool:

Rick0725
11-06-2007, 01:41 PM
From my experiencem, if you had audio problems from the original source (satellite transmission \ ts file \loss signal) then i don't think you can fix that. But if it happened after converting to mpeg or whatever format, then there are tools out there that you can sync the audio with the video on that files before you convert it to a dvd.

Thanks

the dropouts are on the original ts file...I do have an audio cd from the show that is fine that I can use and code for dd 5.1...would that be a pain in the ass though.

TomLewandowski
11-06-2007, 08:22 PM
Being in 5-parts, it might be a pain trying to synchronize your video with an externally recorded audio source. If it's something you really want, I'd surely make the effort to do it. If you can get the video and audio to start precisely at the same time, it shouldn't be a problem.

I'd convert the CDA tracks back to WAV and add it as the "soundtrack" to the video portion. (Different authoring software might refer to it differently.) Re-create the huge VIDEO_TS directory. Then I'd use something like DVD Shrink, or any other utility that can easily divide DVD content into sections, and burn to several 4.7 GB DVD-R's, or a couple DVD-DL discs.

Don't know if that make any sense to you, or if I helped at all. :busy:

Rick0725
11-06-2007, 09:36 PM
How much would you charge to process it for me?

I would send five discs fedex