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Switching your locals to a market with hd locals

eddievedder10
09-18-2007, 09:37 PM
have any of you who do not get hd locals, give directv an address for where you are receiving your directv that receives locals in hd? for example, i live in an eastern iowa market and do not get my locals in hd, would it be possible to give directv an address for say, chicago, and keep my billing address the same, just so i can get the chicago locals in hd, i could care less about my local news, was just wondering if this is possible? thanks in advance!

Action4242
09-18-2007, 11:04 PM
I did this for a period of time but decided I missed my local news, RSN, and local home sports teams. I switched back. I couldn't beleive how easy it was to convince them I was at a friends address in different city. I asked for a waiver for local HD and was granted 2 out of 4 networks. Now I get HD locals (2) in New York plus my locals in SD (Digital). Just buying time until my locals are in HD. Should be next Satellite DTV11 in late 08.

pvt_awol
09-19-2007, 09:16 AM
I was thinking about doing this as well. Wasn't sure how it would go down.

Just for refference, what area gets all the locals in HD? (abc, cbs, fox, nbc) anyone know what area gets them all?

hitdog042
09-19-2007, 09:19 AM
I was thinking about doing this as well. Wasn't sure how it would go down.

Just for refference, what area gets all the locals in HD? (abc, cbs, fox, nbc) anyone know what area gets them all?

Just about every major city.

pvt_awol
09-19-2007, 09:22 AM
^

Oh really........ hmmm... good to know. You know, for refference.

Meatpopsicle
09-19-2007, 09:25 AM
have any of you who do not get hd locals, give directv an address for where you are receiving your directv that receives locals in hd? for example, i live in an eastern iowa market and do not get my locals in hd, would it be possible to give directv an address for say, chicago, and keep my billing address the same, just so i can get the chicago locals in hd, i could care less about my local news, was just wondering if this is possible? thanks in advance!


By chance are you talking about the quad cities? What I don't get is how a local cable provider (Mediacom and you people complain about D*!!!) gives the local channels in High Def but D* does not? and I also want to know why the D* rep told me that I WOULD get my locals in high def?

mmonte4
09-19-2007, 09:34 AM
tell them you would like to change your service area. If they ask why (and they will), tell them you will by at that address for the fall, but your billing address will reain the same.

i did this to receive the better new orleans locals over the sh**ty baon rouge locals. But this was in the days of SD, I am curious to see if the HD will work.

garf12
09-19-2007, 09:35 AM
My installer gave me an address to use so that I get Dallas, TX locals. I live about 3 hours from dallas and none of my locals are in HD. Works great for me.

mmonte4
09-19-2007, 09:45 AM
so now you get the dallas locals in HD without the off air antenna?

pvt_awol
09-19-2007, 09:58 AM
so, what kind of "contract extension" are we talking about if I tell them I want to transfer my service?

Is that even feasable? Here is the thing, I'm from an area that gets HD locals, but due to the military moving me, I can't have them any more. I'd still love to get the locals and the news from my home town. I even still have an address back there.

So, I could just tell them that I'm staying back home for a few months, and I want to take my DVR with me?

mmonte4
09-19-2007, 09:59 AM
yes, tell them youll be home for the fall and your taking your receivers, and they will update your service area to your hometown

ktk0117
09-19-2007, 10:23 AM
Just about every major city.

Not Milwaukee, can't get CBS in HD because Weigel Broadcasting (owners) are pricks.

syntfyd
09-19-2007, 10:36 AM
Het Hitdog, define major city!

pvt_awol
09-19-2007, 10:57 AM
I did some browsing, using google's zip codes, and D*'s own HD lookup service. A lot of the major cities are missing one or more of the HD locals. (example, Portland OR. has all but NBC in HD)

but, I found out that Orange County L.A. has all of them...... for anyone who wants some good "reference".....

cjhsa
09-19-2007, 11:00 AM
Can't get NBC here in west Michigan - apparently more station owners fighting over the broadcast rights. Competition to business owners is a bad thing - because it's good for consumers.

DodgerKing
09-19-2007, 11:01 AM
I did some browsing, using google's zip codes, and D*'s own HD lookup service. A lot of the major cities are missing one or more of the HD locals. (example, Portland OR. has all but NBC in HD)

but, I found out that Orange County L.A. has all of them...... for anyone who wants some good "reference".....

Not KCAL or KCOP (MyNetwork)....these two locals show show all of the local sports teams when they are not on FSN. You have to use OTA to pick them up in HD. Although KCOP only sends out a 480p signal.

eddievedder10
09-19-2007, 10:25 PM
ok, successfully got my locals switched from eastern iowa market(Cedar Rapids, Iowa City, Waterloo, Dubuque) to the Chicago market. works out good as i get more hd channels from the chicago market(like wgn in hd). now, how do i get it so that i don't have the black bars on the side of my screen? my regular hd's(espnhd) don't have these bars, i tried adjusting my display on the tv but the only choices i have are 16:9 and 4:3, i can't select panorama, zoom 1 or zoom 2 since they are greyed out and won't let me select them. is this the sacrifice i have to make, having black side bars?

FUCCO
09-19-2007, 10:30 PM
there are black bars because the program u are watching is not broadcasted in hd. Like when u watch ur local news on abc. same difference

eddievedder10
09-19-2007, 10:35 PM
ok, so the channels just came on and you're correct, the locals all have the news on, so for instance, the bears/cowboys game on sunday night football on nbc, will that have black bars or no?

eddievedder10
09-19-2007, 10:36 PM
jay leno is full screen hd, no black bars, this is nice!

DodgerKing
09-19-2007, 10:38 PM
ok, so the channels just came on and you're correct, the locals all have the news on, so for instance, the bears/cowboys game on sunday night football on nbc, will that have black bars or no?

OTA channels appear in black on your menu and the channels through Direct appear in a dark blue. It has nothing to do with HD or SD.

If you are talking about the aspect ratio. If a picture is a 4:3 image, then you will have black bars (or gray depending on your settings) in both sides (assuming you don't stretch your screen). This may or may not be HD. If the image is a 16:9 ratio then the whole screen will be filled (this is always HD).

eddievedder10
09-19-2007, 10:48 PM
i'm in 16:9 ratio, the local news had the sidebars, after the news was over and went to leno and letterman the sidebars are gone

DodgerKing
09-19-2007, 10:51 PM
i'm in 16:9 ratio, the local news had the sidebars, after the news was over and went to leno and letterman the sidebars are gone

Good...sounds like everything is working fine.

Synergi
09-20-2007, 01:31 AM
Ok for this noob .. my HDTV is terrible at SD signals so I really need locals in HD. Do you just call directv up with a zip code, an entire address (real or fake) and say you live their part of the year? And if I understand it, you keep your real address as your billing address..

If someone could walk me through what it is your say exactly would be helpful heh..

And which major city has the most locals? I'm assuming I'm in michigan so best to stay at least on the east coast as far as time zones go.. I'm 90 miles from Chicago.. I see someone above gets WGN which would be great..

jcoulter
09-21-2007, 07:12 AM
When you did this did the ask for a specific address or just zip code?

carlos31820
09-21-2007, 08:12 AM
When you did this did the ask for a specific address or just zip code?

They usually want an address. They call it a "Service Address". My DTV bill shows the two addresses.

Service Address and Billing Address.

jcoulter
09-21-2007, 12:15 PM
I called and got my service address changed but the channels say searching for signal do I just need to reposition the dish?

deadhead68
09-21-2007, 03:11 PM
I called and got my service address changed but the channels say searching for signal do I just need to reposition the dish?

How far away from your house is the address you gave them? You may be outside of the spot beam for the locals.

DeadHead68

hitdog042
09-21-2007, 03:40 PM
How far away from your house is the address you gave them? You may be outside of the spot beam for the locals.

DeadHead68

If you do a google for directv spot maps you will find maps that show you what locals you can get in what areas.

jcoulter
09-21-2007, 04:50 PM
I'm giving up really wanted KC but Denver is only option I about right in the middle. At least with my locals I can watch my teams in SD. I hate you D*!

deaninmo
09-21-2007, 08:03 PM
tell them you would like to change your service area. If they ask why (and they will), tell them you will by at that address for the fall, but your billing address will reain the same.

i did this to receive the better new orleans locals over the sh**ty baon rouge locals. But this was in the days of SD, I am curious to see if the HD will work.

Is it really necessary to lie to them? Not that I won't. But, just asking because you want to watch all that you can in HD is not good enough for them?
And don't they wonder why there's no phone # change?

ans2004
09-21-2007, 10:08 PM
can't get fox hd in green bay wisconsin, the tv station people are pricks! but i get cbs, abc, nbc.

Steelerfan
09-21-2007, 10:30 PM
They usually want an address. They call it a "Service Address". My DTV bill shows the two addresses.

Service Address and Billing Address.

So have I got this straight..If I want local channels from Pittsburgh and I am currently getting them in KC (which is same transponder), I can call dtv and tell them I am temporarily moving to pittsburgh to take care of my mother (who actually lives there and I can use her address) and they will switch me to Pitt locals with no hassle....Thanks

kdom
09-21-2007, 10:54 PM
If you do a google for directv spot maps you will find maps that show you what locals you can get in what areas.

I think among all I have a case to get the locals from "somewhere". D does not offer local channels in my area and was told by them when I switched 2 weeks ago that waivers are usually grantd. Guess what, all my locals denied my request. I am reall considering switching back to DN, but if this works I will not. Now I need your help to "find" a city that I can get all the locals and preferably in HD. Does Dallas work for me (my zip is 76904). If not what city? I really did not understand the spot maps. Thanks for your help.

Steelerfan
09-21-2007, 11:22 PM
I think among all I have a case to get the locals from "somewhere". D does not offer local channels in my area and was told by them when I switched 2 weeks ago that waivers are usually grantd. Guess what, all my locals denied my request. I am reall considering switching back to DN, but if this works I will not. Now I need your help to "find" a city that I can get all the locals and preferably in HD. Does Dallas work for me (my zip is 76904). If not what city? I really did not understand the spot maps. Thanks for your help.

You look like you are right on the edge of the dallas spot beam..If dallas doesn't work San antonio will

kdom
09-22-2007, 12:16 AM
You look like you are right on the edge of the dallas spot beam..If dallas doesn't work San antonio will

Thanks for the quick response. I have relatives/friends in both cities. Which one will work better? Will I receive the locals in HD? This will be great if it works. Thanks again.

kdom
09-22-2007, 12:21 AM
My installer gave me an address to use so that I get Dallas, TX locals. I live about 3 hours from dallas and none of my locals are in HD. Works great for me.

Do you receive all the locals (abc, cbs, nbs, and fox) in HD? Thanks.

mtm2649
09-22-2007, 12:45 AM
I want to do the same thing. I live near buffalo and can't get CBS in HD and am too far away for a ota antenna but Lin owns CBS and wont sign an agreement with Directv and always deny my waiver request. if i switch to new york city, will this affect my regional sports networks. I know I will still get YES and MSG but up here we get MSG alternate on 627 for Buffalo Sabres games. By switching my address will they take this channel away from me or does New York City still get the MSG Alternate. Thanks.

Steelerfan
09-22-2007, 09:10 AM
Thanks for the quick response. I have relatives/friends in both cities. Which one will work better? Will I receive the locals in HD? This will be great if it works. Thanks again.

Use this link and put in zipcode of city you want to find info on local Hi-Defs..

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/packProg/localChannels.jsp?assetId=900018

garf12
09-22-2007, 09:16 AM
so now you get the dallas locals in HD without the off air antenna?


That is correct

Do you receive all the locals (abc, cbs, nbs, and fox) in HD? Thanks.


yes

kdom
09-22-2007, 09:43 AM
You look like you are right on the edge of the dallas spot beam..If dallas doesn't work San antonio will

Thanks for all the info. Dallas has all locals in HD. Based on the "above", i.e., being on the edge of the Dallas spot beam, does that mean there is a "chance" that Dallas may not work. Is there a way to find out for sure without calling/asking D? Thanks again.

kdom
09-22-2007, 09:53 AM
Do you receive all the locals (abc, cbs, nbs, and fox) in HD? Thanks.

Thanks. What SAT(s) and Transponder(s) you have for these Dallas HD locals. If I have the SAT and Transponder with good signal strength, I should be good to go, right?

squigsWV
09-22-2007, 03:34 PM
Does this make sense...

26508 no local HD channels (out of Pittsburgh, PA) yet 26501 and 26505 do have them per the D* site? All three zipcodes are in the same town (morgantown, WV). I am in 26508, but I don't see how they would know any different where I too tell them one of the two that have HD.

Is this common?

SQ

Steelerfan
09-22-2007, 04:08 PM
Thanks for all the info. Dallas has all locals in HD. Based on the "above", i.e., being on the edge of the Dallas spot beam, does that mean there is a "chance" that Dallas may not work. Is there a way to find out for sure without calling/asking D? Thanks again.

You say that there are no locals offered in your area by DTV?? If that is correct I would assume that you should be able to get national network channels and I think most of them are HD now..I can't really tell you for sure if you will fall under Dallas because it shows your area at the outside edges of spot beam for Dallas...Sorry

kdom
09-22-2007, 09:55 PM
You say that there are no locals offered in your area by DTV?? If that is correct I would assume that you should be able to get national network channels and I think most of them are HD now..I can't really tell you for sure if you will fall under Dallas because it shows your area at the outside edges of spot beam for Dallas...Sorry

I was denied all the national network channels as well. I think I will try San Antonio if it works better (Spot Beam Waise). Thanks for your help.

kdom
09-23-2007, 10:25 AM
Do you receive all the locals (abc, cbs, nbs, and fox) in HD? Thanks.

May I ask where are U located? I am in San Angelo and trying to figure if Dallas works for me, i.e., are San Angelo and Dallas on the same spot beam? Thanks.

firstpersoni
09-23-2007, 01:46 PM
I live in Yuma, Az and its about 3 hrs s/w of Phoenix, Az, I checked and Phoenix gets the locals in HD. So if I give a phoenix address I can get my locals in HD?

DennisBP
09-23-2007, 04:33 PM
Assuming I have a 5 lnb dish and mpeg receiver with Directv and an HD package (and a multiswitch with extra capacity) - What if a friend (60 miles away who gets HD locals) leases an extra hr20 for his system and he gives it to me. Of course I would reimburse him the monthly fee.

Assuming he registers the HR20 with his system first before he gives it to me, will it work in my system?

hitdog042
09-23-2007, 06:44 PM
Assuming I have a 5 lnb dish and mpeg receiver with Directv and an HD package (and a multiswitch with extra capacity) - What if a friend (60 miles away who gets HD locals) leases an extra hr20 for his system and he gives it to me. Of course I would reimburse him the monthly fee.

Assuming he registers the HR20 with his system first before he gives it to me, will it work in my system?

Outside of comitting a felony, it should work.

DennisBP
09-24-2007, 07:54 AM
Is this no different from changing the service area but not moving the HR20 to that location?

relax221
09-24-2007, 08:07 AM
I'm in the movers connection and receive hd locals from NY even when I'm Florida. I keep my receivers on NY zip code and bills to NY address:yippee:

CheechMarin
09-24-2007, 10:55 AM
Hmm, I would like to do this as well. I live in an area that does not offer HD locals, but I am also not eligible for the DNS locals either. According to the DTV Eligibility website, a town within 3 hours of me is eligible for all the DNS locals from LA and NY. How would I go about convincing DTV that I'm in this town instead of my current service address?

CheechMarin
09-24-2007, 04:38 PM
Ttt

Synergi
09-25-2007, 12:52 AM
I'm in the movers connection and receive hd locals from NY even when I'm Florida. I keep my receivers on NY zip code and bills to NY address:yippee:

Wow I didn't know it would work from so far away..I'm in michigan..think i'll shoot for the chicago market since its 90 miles away and they have a lot of local and local hd channels..but it would be cool to get atlanta locals from michigan heh..

CheechMarin
09-25-2007, 09:56 AM
I just want to be eligible for the NY and LA networks but I'm not at my current location. How do I go about getting DTV to grant me these stations? I already found a nearby town that is eligible so can I just tell DTV that I moved there but to keep my service address the same?

garf12
09-27-2007, 08:54 PM
I am in Texarkana and I think that I am on the edge of the spot beam. Even the slightest weather and and my local HD channels are out, but often the SD will still be on. The signal is considerably lower on that transponder also.

jmrife
09-28-2007, 11:25 AM
Hmm, I would like to do this as well. I live in an area that does not offer HD locals, but I am also not eligible for the DNS locals either. According to the DTV Eligibility website, a town within 3 hours of me is eligible for all the DNS locals from LA and NY. How would I go about convincing DTV that I'm in this town instead of my current service address?

Check your Private Messages

jmrife
09-28-2007, 11:27 AM
Hmm, I would like to do this as well. I live in an area that does not offer HD locals, but I am also not eligible for the DNS locals either. According to the DTV Eligibility website, a town within 3 hours of me is eligible for all the DNS locals from LA and NY. How would I go about convincing DTV that I'm in this town instead of my current service address?

Check your PMsgs

kdom
09-28-2007, 12:50 PM
ok, successfully got my locals switched from eastern iowa market(Cedar Rapids, Iowa City, Waterloo, Dubuque) to the Chicago market. works out good as i get more hd channels from the chicago market(like wgn in hd). now, how do i get it so that i don't have the black bars on the side of my screen? my regular hd's(espnhd) don't have these bars, i tried adjusting my display on the tv but the only choices i have are 16:9 and 4:3, i can't select panorama, zoom 1 or zoom 2 since they are greyed out and won't let me select them. is this the sacrifice i have to make, having black side bars?

So how fare are you from Chicago? And does that mean cedar Rapids and Chicago are on the same spotbeam? How can I find out if San Angelo, TX and Dallas are on the samr Spotbeam? Thanks.

eddievedder10
09-28-2007, 05:01 PM
So how fare are you from Chicago? And does that mean cedar Rapids and Chicago are on the same spotbeam? How can I find out if San Angelo, TX and Dallas are on the samr Spotbeam? Thanks.

i am about 175 miles west/northwest of chicago, i live in dubuque, iowa. picture where iowa, wisconsin, and illinois meet, that's where dubuque is. and about that spotbeam, i must've lucked out on that cause i didn't check that when i told them i wanted my locals switched to chicago and gave them a made up address.

rockstar08
01-28-2008, 11:54 AM
tell them you would like to change your service area. If they ask why (and they will), tell them you will by at that address for the fall, but your billing address will reain the same.

i did this to receive the better new orleans locals over the sh**ty baon rouge locals. But this was in the days of SD, I am curious to see if the HD will work.

Call me weird, but I see stories of people "moving" to a larger market because they hate small-market stations...I actually LIKE the small-market stations better...I dunno why.

rockstar08
01-28-2008, 11:58 AM
Hmm, I would like to do this as well. I live in an area that does not offer HD locals, but I am also not eligible for the DNS locals either. According to the DTV Eligibility website, a town within 3 hours of me is eligible for all the DNS locals from LA and NY. How would I go about convincing DTV that I'm in this town instead of my current service address?

Tell them that it's a "vacation home" that is the service address, but your main residence is where you wish to recieve your bill.