OFF AIR on 622

I have off air antenaee in Orlando area. I have 2 problems. My new 622 gets all stations great but the program guide does not have any program info about the stations. It just says Digital Service. I have tried to call dish and have gotten several different responses and rebooted and reinstalled the local stations with no success. One of my 211 receivers works great and has the local stations program info. The other had the antennae run with a dipole splitter and I do not get channel 2 or 6. The other stations come in good. Would I be better off running the antennae without this splitter? The instillation people ran it this way.

I recently had a set of installers do a real S%!TY job with my 622 upgrade and the OTA. I had to fix it my self and found that the OTA needs be be ran directly to the 622, thus no spliters. The installers at my house ran it to a spliter and I only had 3 locals, I ran it directly and I now have 28, all the normal (Detroit) and alot of surrounding (Ann Arbor, Flint ETC.). So I would say run it direct and see if that helps. You could also simply be to far away from the towers for those 2 stations.

I ran mine through a four-way amplied splitter. Info and channels work on both my 622 and 921. I got the splitter at local Radio Shack.

I have off air antenaee in Orlando area. I have 2 problems. My new 622 gets all stations great but the program guide does not have any program info about the stations. It just says Digital Service. I have tried to call dish and have gotten several different responses and rebooted and reinstalled the local stations with no success. One of my 211 receivers works great and has the local stations program info. The other had the antennae run with a dipole splitter and I do not get channel 2 or 6. The other stations come in good. Would I be better off running the antennae without this splitter? The instillation people ran it this way.


When I first hooked up my 622, I had the same problem. One day without doing any thing is corrected. :cool:

yes it has been 3 days now and still no info on any local channels on the program guides. The dish tech support says this receiver is not supposed to have this but I told him this makes no sense. The receiver does not seem to have a hard reboot that brings the program load up even when I unplug it for some time

Try doing a check switch test then reboot. Might want to also try (if the check switch doesn't work) remove the input wires and clear switch, reconnect with check switch.

can I install the OTA outside on the satellite itself then just buy a new splitter for the line coming into the 622? I see mixed messages.. has anyone been successful doing this ? or should I invest in a indoor antenna ?

Thanks

I have OTA on my 622 it feeds from the antenna to an amplifier, then to a diplexer (so i can have it on the same cable as my sat), then diplexer at the 622. The guide always has the information in it. It is yellow, you may need to make changes to what you have in your favorites, or maybe you have locked out the channels.

A two way splitter looses you about 3dB (cuts signal in half), a 4 way splitter you loose about 7dB (cuts signal to 1/4 of input strength), so if you have marginal signal strength you will totally loose that channel when you run it through a splitter.

If you use more than a two way splitter, you should get an urban/sub-urban pre-amplifier to make up for the losses.

Diplexers are not quite as bad as splitters, but you loose about 4 dB combined from both diplexers, so they cut signal about in half also.

Ideally, you should have a solid cable of RG-6 from the antenna to the receiver. This is precluded by the need to have a ground block (about 1 dB loss).

AGAIN, remember that EVERY break in the center conductor introduces reflections and line loss, so minimize them and you get optimal performance.

Thanks Gary S I will try this tonight. Dish again has told me when I call tech support that unless I suscribe to local channels the 622 will not show the programing guide for the local stations. The problem is that we have no HDTV local stations in Orlando available with dish. I think the tech support really bites and they should know their receivers. It makes no sense that the 2 211 have this programming on the guide and the 622 would not.

I have off air antenaee in Orlando area. I have 2 problems. My new 622 gets all stations great but the program guide does not have any program info about the stations. It just says Digital Service. I have tried to call dish and have gotten several different responses and rebooted and reinstalled the local stations with no success. One of my 211 receivers works great and has the local stations program info. The other had the antennae run with a dipole splitter and I do not get channel 2 or 6. The other stations come in good. Would I be better off running the antennae without this splitter? The instillation people ran it this way.

Question, I have the 622 and I get the local program info as well. I was told that you MUST get locals from DISH for $5 a month for the EPG to have program info. Does your 622 have DISH supplied locals? If not then you will need to get them.