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622 DVR Issue

HD-DFW
05-25-2006, 06:59 PM
I love my new 622 receiver - with one exception -

When setting up the DVR to record a show -
Select the show to record on the directory - Go to the "My Recordings" menu - pick frequency. Choices are 'All Episodes', 'New Episodes', 'Once', 'Weelky', etc.

If we select 'All Episodes' of a show, all is well. But if we select 'Once', the system seems to forget my request after a day or so.

In other words, I set up two recordings for tomorrow, for instance. The first, is set to record 'All Episodes' and it does as asked. The second recording is set to record 'Once'. The system seems to lose this "Once' request if it is for any day beyond today.

The system is powered down at night, but this shouldn't cause the issue.

Any thoughts? I could always call Dish... have them refer me to their HD specialists... wait for them to call back 5 days later and leave a message...call them back and leave a message...wait for another several days for them to call back and leave another message, etc., etc. Hopefully someone here will have a clue about my problem.

Allin4greeN
05-26-2006, 09:02 AM
On what channels are you losing DVR timers... HD, SD, OTA, or all of them?

SingleAction
05-26-2006, 12:02 PM
HD-DFW;

Unfortunately, it appears that "all episodes" setting is the default setting, and there is nothing you can do about it.

I have the same complaint along with a list of other video/audio bugs with this receiver!

I want my 942 back :mad:

stchman
05-26-2006, 12:19 PM
I love my new 622 receiver - with one exception -

When setting up the DVR to record a show -
Select the show to record on the directory - Go to the "My Recordings" menu - pick frequency. Choices are 'All Episodes', 'New Episodes', 'Once', 'Weelky', etc.

If we select 'All Episodes' of a show, all is well. But if we select 'Once', the system seems to forget my request after a day or so.

In other words, I set up two recordings for tomorrow, for instance. The first, is set to record 'All Episodes' and it does as asked. The second recording is set to record 'Once'. The system seems to lose this "Once' request if it is for any day beyond today.

The system is powered down at night, but this shouldn't cause the issue.

Any thoughts? I could always call Dish... have them refer me to their HD specialists... wait for them to call back 5 days later and leave a message...call them back and leave a message...wait for another several days for them to call back and leave another message, etc., etc. Hopefully someone here will have a clue about my problem.
I have not encountered what you are talking about. I ususally set up my DVR to record all new episodes and when I use the "once" feature it is on the same day. I will go home and try recording an event the next day to see if it records.

stchman
05-26-2006, 12:24 PM
HD-DFW;

Unfortunately, it appears that "all episodes" setting is the default setting, and there is nothing you can do about it.

I have the same complaint along with a list of other video/audio bugs with this receiver!

I want my 942 back :mad:

No mpeg4 so no VOOM channels. No ESPN2HD, no agile modulated output for both TV1 and TV2!!!!!!!!! Yes, I have noticed that the 622 has a few quirks. For all its faults there is not a more capable DVR that can be had. I have never encountered a peice of equipment with as much complicated software that did not have some quirks. For the most part I have had trouble free recordings and awesome PQ. Give DISH a little while longer to push a few more updates. The only thing I wish the 622 had was another ATSC tuner so I can record 2 HD OTA shows.

Allin4greeN
05-26-2006, 02:06 PM
What I was getting at with my question in the second post is that, there's a known issue with OTA DVR timers disappearing after each EPG update. There's a work-around fix by setting HD/SD Locals mapdown preferences to "disable."

We still don't know if that's where the OP is experiencing the problem...

stchman
05-27-2006, 01:05 AM
What I was getting at with my question in the second post is that, there's a known issue with OTA DVR timers disappearing after each EPG update. There's a work-around fix by setting HD/SD Locals mapdown preferences to "disable."

We still don't know if that's where the OP is experiencing the problem...
I record CSI, Lost, 24, Alias, all on the OTA and all the timers have been there and have not disappeared.

Allin4greeN
05-27-2006, 05:16 PM
I record CSI, Lost, 24, Alias, all on the OTA and all the timers have been there and have not disappeared.Perhaps we should clone your 622 and send out the copies to everyone else experiencing this issue...

Here's a poll (http://www./showthread.php?t=64713) I conducted on another forum regarding the problem. Over 1/3 of respondents had the same or a similar experience with disappearing timers.

EDIT: Here's a link (http://www./showthread.php?t=57729) to yet another forum where the issue is discussed and the work-around fix is described.

stchman
05-30-2006, 01:31 PM
Perhaps we should clone your 622 and send out the copies to everyone else experiencing this issue...

Here's a poll (http://www./showthread.php?t=64713) I conducted on another forum regarding the problem. Over 1/3 of respondents had the same or a similar experience with disappearing timers.

EDIT: Here's a link (http://www./showthread.php?t=57729) to yet another forum where the issue is discussed and the work-around fix is described.
That was a whopping total of 52 people that responded to the poll. There are probably well over 100,000 622s out there. I like the percentages. I have not said that the 622 has failed to record. In the 2 months I have had it it faild to record a program twice. As I have said the 622 is not perfect. I do notice some quirks. It has froze on me three times. DISH will fix the problems in due time. In the days of the VCRs, I lost lots of recordings when the VCR failed to do its thing. Chewed tapes most prominent. DVRs in comparison to VCRs are incredible. So compared to that, I am happy. It seems as though some are not happy unless they are complaining about something. There is not a better DVR out there than the 622 as of right now. For $300 and $6/month it is a bargain.

Allin4greeN
05-30-2006, 02:31 PM
That was a whopping total of 52 people that responded to the poll. There are probably well over 100,000 622s out there. I like the percentages...:D I agree, the small sample size makes the poll statistically insignificant. However...

:p The broader issue is that some units have problems, and for those folks that experience problems on their 622, it is NOT statistically insignificant. It can be a major PITA.
...It seems as though some are not happy unless they are complaining about something...
:rolleyes: People with problems tend to post more often than those who are happily content. That's just the way it is.

:mad: I'm not trying to bash E* or the 622 in any way. In fact... despite a few minor issues, I'm extremely happy with my 622, and with E*. However, I won't don rose colored glasses either... It seems as though some people are too quick to dispense advice and information, especially when they lack knowledge of the issues they purport to understand....There is not a better DVR out there than the 622 as of right now. For $300 and $6/month it is a bargain.:cool: I agree, the 622 is probably the most technologically advanced piece of DVR equipment available on the market. I originally chose E* because of their HD package and 942. The 622 has only made me feel more positive about my decision to switch from D*. I do think calling it a bargain might be going a little overboard, however...

stchman
05-30-2006, 04:13 PM
:D I agree, the small sample size makes the poll statistically insignificant. However...

:p The broader issue is that some units have problems, and for those folks that experience problems on their 622, it is NOT statistically insignificant. It can be a major PITA.

:rolleyes: People with problems tend to post more often than those who are happily content. That's just the way it is.

:mad: I'm not trying to bash E* or the 622 in any way. In fact... despite a few minor issues, I'm extremely happy with my 622, and with E*. However, I won't don rose colored glasses either... It seems as though some people are too quick to dispense advice and information, especially when they lack knowledge of the issues they purport to understand.:cool: I agree, the 622 is probably the most technologically advanced piece of DVR equipment available on the market. I originally chose E* because of their HD package and 942. The 622 has only made me feel more positive about my decision to switch from D*. I do think calling it a bargain might be going a little overboard, however...
I will agree with your statements. I agree that the 622 has it share of quirks. Compare it to all the other mpeg4 DVRs with OTA recording capability.

As far as bargain, I looked into converting a PC into an HD DVR and here it what I have concluded:

HD video capture card - $250
300G HD - $125
Windows XP Media Center - $145
Mobo, Processor, RAM, Video Card, DVD Burner - $600


That all sums up to about $1120. For $300 plus the measly lease fee I call it a bargain.

Remember, the HD DVR wont integrate with the tuner of the sat receiver so you would have to set the receiver to change to that channel when your program came on. The 622 can record (3) separate HD programs simultaneously with OTA hooked up. Not to mention that no modulated output either. The 622 is a pretty advanced peice of equipment that performs admirably. I am not a DISH zealot, I wish they would reduce thier rates. I just feel that DISH gives me the most for what I spend.

Allin4greeN
05-30-2006, 04:33 PM
I will agree with your statements. I agree that the 622 has it share of quirks. Compare it to all the other mpeg4 DVRs with OTA recording capability.

As far as bargain, I looked into converting a PC into an HD DVR and here it what I have concluded:

HD video capture card - $250
300G HD - $125
Windows XP Media Center - $145
Mobo, Processor, RAM, Video Card, DVD Burner - $600


That all sums up to about $1120. For $300 plus the measly lease fee I call it a bargain.

Remember, the HD DVR wont integrate with the tuner of the sat receiver so you would have to set the receiver to change to that channel when your program came on. The 622 can record (3) separate HD programs simultaneously with OTA hooked up. Not to mention that no modulated output either. The 622 is a pretty advanced peice of equipment that performs admirably. I am not a DISH zealot, I wish they would reduce thier rates. I just feel that DISH gives me the most for what I spend.I'm with you on all of the above :thumbsup:

However, with regard to bargains, I was thinking more in terms of competing broadcast providers like Comcast, Verizon, etc. and the HD DVR's they offer. In some instances (depending on location and other variables) cable or fiber may be a less expensive and/or better option for some folks. Often there is no upfront costs ($299) associated with leasing equipment from cable or fiber providers, the trade-off being a higher or additional monthly fees.

Please don't get me wrong, I'm no Dish basher or zealot. When I looked into my 622 upgrade, I considered a number of factors and competitors' offers, and for me Dish came out on top, by quite a bit.

stchman
05-30-2006, 06:07 PM
I'm with you on all of the above :thumbsup:

However, with regard to bargains, I was thinking more in terms of competing broadcast providers like Comcast, Verizon, etc. and the HD DVR's they offer. In some instances (depending on location and other variables) cable or fiber may be a less expensive and/or better option for some folks. Often there is no upfront costs ($299) associated with leasing equipment from cable or fiber providers, the trade-off being a higher or additional monthly fees.

Please don't get me wrong, I'm no Dish basher or zealot. When I looked into my 622 upgrade, I considered a number of factors and competitors' offers, and for me Dish came out on top, by quite a bit.
I live here in St. Louis and the local cable company is Charter Communications. I talked with them about an HD DVR and they told me it was a 6 month wait?!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF?!!!!! My brother had to wait over a month to get the Charter regular HD reciever. Charter charges $11/month DVR rent and no up front fee. As I see it a cheaper product that is a near phantom is not worth speaking about. Heck DTV charges $500 for thier DVR and it is not as capable as the 622.

Jon Walker
06-09-2006, 08:31 PM
HD-DFW;

Unfortunately, it appears that "all episodes" setting is the default setting, and there is nothing you can do about it.

On my 622, "Once" is the default. Have only used the "All Episodes" option for two programs thus far. First program recorded fine. Second played twice on the date it was initially scheduled and was recorded both times. (Repeat of the show two days latter was, however, correctly skipped.) Not sure if this is a bug in programmed scan for episode repeats or or just a random error.

bestech
06-10-2006, 01:08 AM
No mpeg4 so no VOOM channels. No ESPN2HD, no agile modulated output for both TV1 and TV2!!!!!!!!! Yes, I have noticed that the 622 has a few quirks. For all its faults there is not a more capable DVR that can be had. I have never encountered a peice of equipment with as much complicated software that did not have some quirks. For the most part I have had trouble free recordings and awesome PQ. Give DISH a little while longer to push a few more updates. The only thing I wish the 622 had was another ATSC tuner so I can record 2 HD OTA shows.

I think that you have mispoken a few points here, I have a 622, they DO use MPEG4, and I DO receive ESPN2HD, Voom, etc.

They DO have 2 ATSC Tuners, it DOWNGRADES the signal for the 2nd TV output. YOU CAN RECORD 2 HD Programs at 1 time, you can only Watch 1 of them at a time as it will only output the HD on the TV1 output.

Are you sure that you own a 622?