Starzhd/hgtv/nat Geography

STARZ HD /NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC HD AND HGTVHD now uplinked to satellite 129.I bet we see these debut in early June.:yippee:

Uplinked both in 129 and 61.5.....sweet

Something to look forward to...

Yes,it is on 61.5 also.The NFL Network which was in Mpeg2 ,is now in mpeg4.It will be on the 129 sat and the 61.5.I wish Dish would not put all of these Hd channels on that particular satellite since most of the U.S.A has problems with the reception.Does anyone have any problems with ESPN2HD on the 129 sat?.It is on transponder 6 and probably is one of my weakest signals.The main reason I upgraded to the Dish 1000 was to receive ESPN2HD for the upcoming football season.:confused:

no problems here in the Midwest with sat 129. I have heard there are concerns on both coasts though especially the west coast.

STARZ HD /NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC HD AND HGTVHD now uplinked to satellite 129.I bet we see these debut in early June.:yippee:
Cool, they need Cinemax HD and FSN HD and it will be awesome.

no problems here in the Midwest with sat 129. I have heard there are concerns on both coasts though especially the west coast.
I too live in the MidWest and get great signal on 129. I think our geography is the key.

From another forum............

9429 NTGHD ADDED TO Tp 22 ConUS beam on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w
9429 NTGHD ADDED TO Tp 22 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w
9435 STZHD ADDED TO Tp 20 ConUS beam on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w
9435 STZHD ADDED TO Tp 10 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w
9461 HGHD ADDED TO Tp 22 ConUS beam on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w
9461 HGHD ADDED TO Tp 22 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w
9464 NFLHD MOVED FROM Tp 13 ConUS beam on EchoStar 8 at 110w
TO Tp 20 ConUS beam on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w
9464 NFLHD ADDED TO Tp 10 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w



So, National Geographic HD, HGTV-HD (finally), Starz-HD and NFL Network HD. Word has it subscribers (with the new metallic packages) will see these new channels the first week of June. Expect Echostar to debut them at their Team Summit event.

From another forum............

9429 NTGHD ADDED TO Tp 22 ConUS beam on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w
9429 NTGHD ADDED TO Tp 22 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w
9435 STZHD ADDED TO Tp 20 ConUS beam on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w
9435 STZHD ADDED TO Tp 10 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w
9461 HGHD ADDED TO Tp 22 ConUS beam on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w
9461 HGHD ADDED TO Tp 22 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w
9464 NFLHD MOVED FROM Tp 13 ConUS beam on EchoStar 8 at 110w
TO Tp 20 ConUS beam on EchoStar 3 at 61.5w
9464 NFLHD ADDED TO Tp 10 ConUS beam on EchoStar 5 at 129w



So, National Geographic HD, HGTV-HD (finally), Starz-HD and NFL Network HD. Word has it subscribers (with the new metallic packages) will see these new channels the first week of June. Expect Echostar to debut them at their Team Summit event.
I went to DISH website and there is no mention of these channels being added. Where do you folks get your information?

I went to DISH website and there is no mention of these channels being added. Where do you folks get your information?

SatelliteGuys (http://www./) and DBSTalk (http://www./) are two great resources!

More likely these channels will debut mid June, after Charlie chat.(something for Charlie to talk about..:) )

I went to DISH website and there is no mention of these channels being added. Where do you folks get your information?

Dishnetwork website adds the channels after they have been actived, Way After They Have Been Activated.

:confused: I'm a little confused about something..some of my Voom channels come in on the 129 satelite signal..so do my local HD channels..YET..the signal from the 129 for the local HD channels suck..and i lose picture on them frequently.Why don't I lose picture on the Voom channels then if they are coming from the same satelite signal????

The transponders.If you will set your tv to a certain channel say which ever channel that your losing the most .In your case most of the voom channnels.Once you are on that channel,go to point dish screen and then look at what transponder is showing.That will be the signal strength for that particular channel.If the signal goes below 50 you will lose that particular channel.Ive noticed some transponders are alot stronger than others.I just hope that these new hd channels coming up will be on a lot stronger transponder.

techster,
I'm Not losing signal on my Voom channels.....I'm losing signal on my Local HD channels.What confuses me though...The Voom and Local HD channels come from the same satelite signal-129.

IF I decide to go to Point Dish on my tv...and lets say I go to one of the local HD channels and see what the signal strength is..my question is...can I change my signal strength for that particular channel to a stronger transformer and will the strength from the transformer number I pick STICK ? Will it be able to change the transformer for that particular channel???? I'm confused.
Dish network tech told me I can only get my local HD channels from the 129 satelite signal. How does one go to their point dish menu and make that a stronger signal?

techster,
I'm Not losing signal on my Voom channels.....I'm losing signal on my Local HD channels.What confuses me though...The Voom and Local HD channels come from the same satelite signal-129.

IF I decide to go to Point Dish on my tv...and lets say I go to one of the local HD channels and see what the signal strength is..my question is...can I change my signal strength for that particular channel to a stronger transformer and will the strength from the transformer number I pick STICK ? Will it be able to change the transformer for that particular channel???? I'm confused.
Dish network tech told me I can only get my local HD channels from the 129 satelite signal. How does one go to their point dish menu and make that a stronger signal?

A couple of channels are one transponder, if you are watching that channel and you go to the point dish screen, the sat location and transponder are for that channel. You can try to fine tune your pointing of the dish to get that number higher in order to stop or limit the number of dropouts you are experiencing. Changing the transponder to one with a higher signal does not move the channel to another location.

But would I have to physically go up on my roof to try to move my dish to get a stronger signal that would stick..or could I just try to get a stronger signal by doing something on the point dish part of my tv.garys,I did'nt understand your answer to my posting.You were'nt clear.

But would I have to physically go up on my roof to try to move my dish to get a stronger signal that would stick..or could I just try to get a stronger signal by doing something on the point dish part of my tv.garys,I did'nt understand your answer to my posting.You were'nt clear.

Sorry, you have to fine tune the pointing of the dish on your roof. The point dish screen only gives you the current readings. You have to be careful you don't adjust the other sat to a too low signal, that you cause the same problems on other channels.

I can't do that. The Dish Tech people have been here several times and can't make my 129 signal stronger.Infact I have a Dish 1000 and getting a strong 129 signal on the dish 1000 is next to impossible.Alot of customers in the Los Angeles area have the same problem with the dish 1000 in regards to the weakness of the 129 satelite.Dish Network has given me no solution about this problem.

Amazingly enough my local HD Fox channel never has a problem..no loss of signal.

I'm still pondering whether to pay $20 a month and get my local HD channels through the cable company.I've done that before before I had local HD channels from Dish Network.

so where are these channels?

I had to double check, this IS the NGHD/StarzHD HGHD thread.

Are these channles working now?
It's June 1st, thought maybe today would be a good day to start.
I'm on the road with my job, so I can't look for myself.

Sorry for my first post to the HD forum to be an extension on an OT sidetrack, but I think I have some very useful information to add, so being at times public spirited, I joined just to provide said information.

I just had Dish HD installed, and I live in a forested area. The installer had a very difficult time getting clean signals from the various satellites with the Dish 1000. He finally packed up the Dish 1000 dish and installed two 500's each pointed optimally to get a certain satellite (or two, I don't know). After that my HD signal went from 40-50 to over 70, and all stations have come in clearly since the install was completed with two dishes.

This guy went above and beyond the call of duty to help me, but I've had nothing but good experiences with Dish for many years, so I'm not surprised I foolishly switched to Direct TV once and got snookered for a one year commitment and had nothing but problems from day one, but that is another story.

See if you can get a tech to come out and swap your 1000 for the two 500's, it will work much better.

Tip

[QUOTE=stchman]I went to DISH website and there is no mention of these channels being added. Where do you folks get your information ?

This is the website I check out once in a while.

http://ekb./dishlist.htm

If I switch my Dish 1000 I won't be able to receive my mpeg 4 channels on my 211 receiver.
I have been having signal problems with the 129 since I got my Dish 1000...as are alot of people who have dish network in my area.
Again,I was told that I won't be able to get my Mpeg 4 channels if I don't have a Dish 1000.
Personally,I hate the Dish 1000 .

i wouldnt think having 2 dish 500's vs having 1 dish 1000 would have anything to do with what compression rate you are receiving, i think that is dependant on your receiver more than anything....i could be wrong though....just speculating.

As I said in my earlier post ..I own a 211 receiver and the only way I can receive my mpeg4 channels is if I have a Dish 1000.You can't receive mpeg 4 channels if you don't own a 211 or 622 receiver..and you have to have a Dish 1000.
You CANNOT receive mpeg4 channels with two Dish 500's.
That is a FACT !
You can phone Dish Network technical and ask them and they will give you the same answer I'm giving you.

Hockeymuggle,
before you post something you should be educated or informed about what you're posting about !

As I said in my earlier post ..I own a 211 receiver and the only way I can receive my mpeg4 channels is if I have a Dish 1000.You can't receive mpeg 4 channels if you don't own a 211 or 622 receiver..and you have to have a Dish 1000.
You CANNOT receive mpeg4 channels with two Dish 500's.
That is a FACT !
You can phone Dish Network technical and ask them and they will give you the same answer I'm giving you.

Hockeymuggle,
before you post something you should be educated or informed about what you're posting about !I think you are the one that should get educated. :hithere: The receiver is the only thing that decides whether you get MPEG4 because of the chip that is soldered to the motherboard. Period! Lesson 2, Play tech support roulette and I bet you get a different answer than what the tech told you about the Dish 1000.

I just spoke to Dish network's technical department.

I asked him the specific question if I could change my Dish 1000 to two Dish 500's and still receiver my mpeg4 channels on my 211 receivers.He put me on hold for 5 minutes.When he got back he said"Yes and No".
He let me know that the installers don't like to install two Dish 500's because they're harder to install than one Dish 1000.
So in other words You CAN receive Mpeg4 channels on two Dish 500's !
Though he was'nt willing to say he would have a installer to swap my Dish 1000 for two Dish 500's.

I then told him the last installer dish sent over put their sticker on the back of my receiver remote.Only problem is..I'm not at home to see that phone number-I'm at work !
I'm sorry if I was such an A_S to you Hockeymuggle..but for many months since I got the Dish 1000..Dish network has been telling me that the only way I can receive my mpeg 4 channels is with the dish 1000.They LIED.

The main thing about getting two dish 500's is you will need a DPP34 or DPP44 switch and they will probably want to charge you for it. But you will get an improved signal with a dedicated dish pointing at 129.

I phoned Dish technical again and spoke to a lady in their advanced tech department. She informed me that..if I switched from having my Dish 1000 to 2 Dish 500's I would only be able to receive the Legacy package and would lose alot of my high definition channels.
She ALSO informed me that Dish Network is only allowed by the new FCC rules that each household can only have one Dish.

She suggested I hire a private installer if I wanted to get rid of my Dish 1000 and see if the private installer could install some dishes that would be able to receive MPEG 4 channels.

I phoned Dish technical again and spoke to a lady in their advanced tech department. She informed me that..if I switched from having my Dish 1000 to 2 Dish 500's I would only be able to receive the Legacy package and would lose alot of my high definition channels.
She ALSO informed me that Dish Network is only allowed by the new FCC rules that each household can only have one Dish...There's so much bad information here it boggles the mind... :rolleyes:

You confused me by posting all those Links about all those products-one of which was an HD dvd player:confused: .What does THAT have to do with what I wrote earlier??!!!!!

You confused me by posting all those Links about all those products-one of which was an HD dvd player:confused: .What does THAT have to do with what I wrote earlier??!!!!!That would be my signature, which includes some of the equipment in my HT... notice the line above the links?

Seeing as this thread started out as a discussion about new HD channels being offered by Dish, I am not at all concerned with your confusion...

rickbbb, after almost a year of reading about your Dish trials and tribulations, I lack any sympathy for your plight. Your natural state of being is one of confusion. I think you should switch to Comcast, Time Warner, or whatever cable service is offered in your area. At least then we wouldn't be subjected to reading any more of your posts here... :hithere:

Hey, I started this brouhaha by relating a factual situation. Let me reiterate...

I have the two 500's. I get all the channels Dish offers in the Platinum package, SD and HD. With the 1000 I couldn't get a strong enough signal on 129 for the HD. The Dish tech installed the two 500 dishes himself. The Feds haven't arrived yet to rip out one of them. End of story.

Hey, I started this brouhaha by relating a factual situation. Let me reiterate...

I have the two 500's. I get all the channels Dish offers in the Platinum package, SD and HD. With the 1000 I couldn't get a strong enough signal on 129 for the HD. The Dish tech installed the two 500 dishes himself. The Feds haven't arrived yet to rip out one of them. End of story.Tip and others, please forgive my rude post. It was a long day and the... questionable information provided by rick simply struck me as... asinine.

Tip, there's nothing wrong with the configuration you're using. In fact, I've read recommendations from professional installers that suggest 2 D500's, as opposed to 1 D1000, is the best way to receive signals from 110, 119 and 129 in many areas of the country. IMHO, noone should be discouraged from using 2 D500's.

The bottom line for me is that E* doesn't like multiple dish installations because it costs them more money.

There's so much bad information here it boggles the mind... :rolleyes:And they are getting paid to spew that crap!:p Unfriggingbelievable.

I'm not anybody's punching bag here or their psychiatrist and we ALL have good and bad days...who does'nt..we're HUMAN.we should'nt take it out on others .

I have every right to say things and ask questions and find out information here in this forum.As stupid as they may seem to some of you and not stupid to others.

There are many More good people here in this forum than bad .Thank God.

I appreciate the helpfullness of others here.You've been there for me when I needed help with my satelite problems.I also know I've helped other people here too and have been thanked for it many times.
So, I just try to focus on the good people here and realize that whoever says nasty things to me..well, thats their problem.and their own personal issue.
Heck,I have some awful things happening in my life now...one sister is dieing-she's only 36 years old and another sister is sick too.
Do I spend most of my time here ripping people apart because of a dumb post /what seems dumb to them..? I don't think I do.
Anyway,enough said.

I have a VIP211 and use a dish500 (for 110/119) and a dish100 pointed at 129, using an sw21 switch. I get all SD and HD programming from all 3 satellites just fine. Even with the low signal strength on 129 (about mid 60s), I don't have a problem with the HD channels. I have found that the information I get at this site is FAR more credible than the info I get from DN.

And they are getting paid to spew that crap!:p Unfriggingbelievable.True that!

I have a VIP211 and use a dish500 (for 110/119) and a dish100 pointed at 129, using an sw21 switch. I get all SD and HD programming from all 3 satellites just fine. Even with the low signal strength on 129 (about mid 60s), I don't have a problem with the HD channels. I have found that the information I get at this site is FAR more credible than the info I get from DN.
Wow I called jsut the other day and they (DN) told me that the only way to receive HD and SD channels was to get a special DishPro Switch and not a SW21 or SW44, etc. I have 2 dishes at the moment and I would not have ordered the Dish1000 if there was a way for me to point the 2 independent dishes to their locations and get them all to talk to the receiver vip211 and get HD signals. Now I am a little pissed about being told other wise by the DN technician.:mad:

I'm not anybody's punching bag here or their psychiatrist and we ALL have good and bad days...who does'nt..we're HUMAN.we should'nt take it out on others .

I have every right to say things and ask questions and find out information here in this forum.As stupid as they may seem to some of you and not stupid to others.

There are many More good people here in this forum than bad .Thank God.

I appreciate the helpfullness of others here.You've been there for me when I needed help with my satelite problems.I also know I've helped other people here too and have been thanked for it many times.
So, I just try to focus on the good people here and realize that whoever says nasty things to me..well, thats their problem.and their own personal issue.
Heck,I have some awful things happening in my life now...one sister is dieing-she's only 36 years old and another sister is sick too.
Do I spend most of my time here ripping people apart because of a dumb post /what seems dumb to them..? I don't think I do.
Anyway,enough said.
:crying:

ANY-WHO.......................Are the new HD channels up and running yet?
Sorry to ask again, my Wife has been on me about teh Home and Garden channel, since I told her is was coming to E* in HD soon, that's all I said..........SOON!.