It's Official....PS3 sells for.....

PS3 sells for $499 dollars for the 20GB hard drive.
PS3 sells for $599 dollars for the 60GB hard drive.

Wish it was less...but what I expected it to be. By the way...sweet controller...just hope the response time is good. Nice touch, sony!

Where officially was this posted?

Where officially was this posted?

It was announced during the conference...
http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3story.html?sid=6149470

From the E3 Webcast shown live online at www.gamespot.com tonight... I think you can view the recorded version there as well.

Take a look for yourself. I wouldn't lie to the entire community....
www.gamespot.com

Cool...thanks, have to go see. :)

I'm trying to confirm this from Gamespot or IGN, but apparently, the 20 gig version doesn't have HDMI, Firewire, memory card (I've also read, no rumble feature for the controllers)...

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/060509ae.pdf

...hmmm, you may be right. Looks like Sony got a bit sneaky so that you must buy the 60GB hard drive for $599 in order to have the HDMI.
Bastards! So in reality, PS3 is $599. There are going to be a bunch of disappointed people out there that didn't catch this "fine print" and will wonder why they can't get the true HD.

I'd like to get a confirmation on this first...

I'd like to get a confirmation on this first...

Trust me, bud, I'm trying to find some myself. Also, apparently, the controllers don't have any rumble feature.

E3 2006: PS3 20 Gig Missing Features?
Images of system with smaller hard drive missing HDMI input, other features.
by Jeff Haynes

May 8, 2006 - The announcement earlier tonight that the PS3 would come in two separate configurations easily caught the ear of PS3 fans eager for any news of Sony's system. However, upon closer analysis of the images for the systems itself, a rather curious system feature seemed to be missing from the 20 gig configuration.

Looking at the official press site of SCEA, we noticed that the PS3 with the 20 gigabyte hard drive seemed to lack HDMI support. This seems to be confirmed by an offical press release from SCEA, which indicates via comparison between the two systems. However, it also indicates that the 20 gigabyte system won't have Memory Stick, SD or Compact Flash reading capability or WiFi support. Even worse, it appears that rumble doesn't appear to be included with the new six axis sensing controller.

Could the 20 gig become a gamer shunned system? When Microsoft launched the Xbox 360, consumers hated the Core system that didn't come with a hard drive and other features, quickly dubbing it the "tard pack." Will the 20 gig suffer the same fate? We'll have more details as we get them from the show.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/705/705887p1.html

After I say this, I'm going to bed. It's 11:41pm here and I have to do some cold-calling/prospecting tomorrow morning.
I have been a fan of Sony PS3 for a long time. I have defended their integrity and have waited for the release of this machine for months just like all of you.
I have to say, I feel like I just got stabbed in the back.
I will have to think about whether or not I should get this or just wait until the first price decrease for the Xbox 360 (which by the way is the first time I have EVER considered doing this).


Over and out...with lots of thinking to do.

"F" Sony....I'm am not buying this overpriced over hyped piece of crap. $600.00!!!!! Thats absolutely out of control. I'm going to stick with my 360 and get the Nintendo Wii. $600.00 bucks, you've got to be kidding me! Out

I wasn't suprised really!!!Since blu-ray drive is standard,thta's what the masses where expecting $400 on the low end.SONY isn't just compting with m$ they are also battling Toshiba for some it's win-win.The newest and best game console and hd dvd all in 1 can't go wrong.A stand alone hddvd is $500 and the flopbox 360 is around $400 right now,so whats the crying about.This ain't your kids game system.

I wasn't suprised really!!!Since blu-ray drive is standard,thta's what the masses where expecting $400 on the low end.SONY isn't just compting with m$ they are also battling Toshiba for some it's win-win.The newest and best game console and hd dvd all in 1 can't go wrong.A stand alone hddvd is $500 and the flopbox 360 is around $400 right now,so whats the crying about.This ain't your kids game system.


Thisn't going to be a lot of peoples gaming system....$600.00 price tag brings back memories of the neo geo...goodbye Sony.

Hardcore gamers will buy this but a lot of console sales come from parents buying their kids consoles for christmas/birthdays. There will be a lot of dissappointed kids this holiday season.

I wasn't going to get but after thinking about it, I'm going to pre-order one and sell it to some retard who will pay triple on Ebay...God bless America.

Also, what happens if blu ray flops...Thats a lot to pay for a failed media.

Heh..and thus speaketh the Sony fanboy ;) It is doubtful that the mainstream or casual gamer will go for a console that high. Besides, I heard that the version of HDMI (1.3?) on PS3 may not even be out on HDTVs. So guess what, a new HDTV has to be purchased. If PS3 fails, it will be due to Sony pushing yet another proprietary format, beta ray. If you noticed the UMD format is virtually dead for PSP movies. Way to go sony ;)

I wasn't suprised really!!!Since blu-ray drive is standard,thta's what the masses where expecting $400 on the low end.SONY isn't just compting with m$ they are also battling Toshiba for some it's win-win.The newest and best game console and hd dvd all in 1 can't go wrong.A stand alone hddvd is $500 and the flopbox 360 is around $400 right now,so whats the crying about.This ain't your kids game system.

Also, what happens if blu ray flops...Thats a lot to pay for a failed media.
If so you still have a gaming system.But it be awhile meaning years before blu-ray or hddvd is crowned a winner.I got a few friends who own the orginal xbox but passed on the second because they don't have hd or hd ready sets.They want to take full advantage of the xbox 360,which also is priced pretty high as we react to SONY's pricing.I'm not a SONY fanboy but I despised MS before they got caught up in a federal lawsuit (pre-xbox).So if PS3 flop I will be okay.I don't buy gaming consoles when they first release,I can't justify the high prices.I'm more into high end electronics and Flopbox 360 nor PS3 don't do anything for me.I want hd dvd and I can knock out 2 birds with 1 stone if I purchase a PS3 that's about it.If hd dvd wins then when somebody other than Toshiba make a player I will get one.I have 1 question how much would the 360 sold for if the hd-dvd drive was included?

Is the cheaper version able to play BD movies? It doesn't have HDMI but it could do it through component I guess (possibly downrezzed). If it doesn't play BD movies and it's missing all those other features, how could they possibly justify it only being $100 less?

If you accept the fact that $600 is a good price for the high-end model, then shouldn't the cheaper one be no more than $400? This sounds like the same pricing strategy as they used on the Apprentice a few weeks ago - 1 sandwich for $7 or 2 for $8 (yes the team with that pricing structure lost)

I couldn't believe it when I read it- I definately thought that $499 would be the highest price for the PS3, but... damn! I've been checking out the various coverages(like I'm sure the rest of you have) and, by looking at the PS3's screens of various titles, I do believe I'm in love. The only thing is, lust looks more like a reality until that first price drop for me as well. And you know what? I'm not minding that too much. Why you ask? A likely $200 Wii and Twilight Princess at launch!! Thank God FFXII isn't scheduled until 2007...

Is the cheaper version able to play BD movies? It doesn't have HDMI but it could do it through component I guess (possibly downrezzed). If it doesn't play BD movies and it's missing all those other features, how could they possibly justify it only being $100 less?

Yeah, the cheaper one can play Blu-ray movies. But if you have an HDMI-equipped TV or are planning on buying one, I can't see a point in buying the 20gig PS3. In a few years, BD movies will probably be downscaled to 540p.

A few days ago I was almost positive I was going to be buying a PS3 but now I can safely say I will never buy one. I wanted to buy the console with the most power and the best graphics from this generation but it's just too damn expensive. I will probably end up going with the 360 just so I can have a console that actually utilizes my HDTV.

I said it before and I'll say it again, if the PS3 costs over $500 then Sony is shooting themselves, AND Blu-ray, in the face.

Ha! They just announced that GTA4 will be a 360 exclusive. That is a major win for MS and a huge blow to Sony

Ha! They just announced that GTA4 will be a 360 exclusive. That is a major win for MS and a huge blow to Sony

To clarify... Certain (not sure if all) downloadable content will be exclusive to Xbox Live, not the game itself.

Though still, a huge plus for Microsoft.

I hate to pat myself on the back but....

http://www.forumsvibe.com/highdefinition/viewtopic.php?t=26&mforum=highdefinition

Well....i don't HATE to do it. Sorry, but I've put my neck out there with this prediction, and I want a little credit. Not that it really means anything, Lol.

To clarify... Certain (not sure if all) downloadable content will be exclusive to Xbox Live, not the game itself.

Though still, a huge plus for Microsoft.

Sorry about that. I'm getting real-time text updates on gamedaily.com and the guy at the conference obviously has bad hearing. Yesterday he thought 'Resistance: Fall of Man' was called 'Resistance Followed Man'. ;)

12:27pm: Grand Theft Auto 4 EXCLUSIVE for 360! Coming October 16th, and will have episodic content for download via Xbox Live, courtesy of Rockstar. Take that, Sony! Moore even got another "real" tattoo for the occasion.

$600 is way to much for a gaming console. And from what I read the $500 model is way to stripped down to consider. The only justification would be getting the Blu-Ray drive for cheap. If I just wanted a new gaming console the PS3 is a grossly overpriced. And I know adults, like me, are very interested in the blu-ray for the HD but the average kid could give a crap. They are just interested in getting the next-gen console. Do you think that parents will pay $600 plus tax for a console. Plus it probably only comes with one boomarang controller and no games. Granted it is probably great for games but the games will be $50-$70 each. So with tax and one game I will be looking at over $700. And don't tell me that a kid will be satisfied just using this as a blu-ray player. He is going to want games for it. Heck I am 30 yrs old and I would want to play games on it. I thought the xbox360 cost to much. I haven't even bought one of those yet at $400. Microsoft must be loving this press release. A parent has to choose between $400 or $600. I think its obvious which one will win. Maybe I finally will be done with console gaming and just put the money into computer upgrades.

$600+tax and 1 game = $700...ouch.

PS3 sells for $499 dollars for the 20GB hard drive.
PS3 sells for $599 dollars for the 60GB hard drive.


PlayStation 3 prices: $499 and $599
New gaming system will go on sale in U.S. on Nov. 17 with two hard-drive sizes, mimics Nintendo controller
By Chris Morris, CNNMoney.com staff writer
May 9, 2006: 5:47 PM EDT

LOS ANGELES (CNNMoney.com) - When the PlayStation 3 launches in the United States on Nov. 17, it will carry the highest price of any major console launch.

Sony announced plans Monday to offer two packages when the system goes on sale this fall. A PS3 with a 20 GB hard drive will cost consumers $499. Those wanting a larger, 60 GB hard drive will pay $599. The $499 version will also lack several features found in the more expensive one.

The PS3 will be $200 and $300 higher than the launch price of the PlayStation 2 six years ago. It's $100 higher than the current retail price of Microsoft's (Research) Xbox 360.

European gamers will pay 499 and 599 for the two packages.

Gamers were quick to react on message boards, protesting the high price. "My wallet just cried," wrote "DingoStoleMyBaby," a member of Shacknews.com.

Sony (Research) also revealed a key feature of its new controller, showing a functionality that appears very similar to the one Nintendo will offer with the Wii, its new system.

While the controller looks virtually identical to the current PS2 controller, user wrist movements can also be translated into onscreen movement - "but it's based upon our industry standard controller, which has been enjoyed by so many gamers," said Phil Harrison, president of Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios.

Nintendo shrugged off the similarities, with a spokesperson saying "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery".

The $499 price had been widely speculated, but industry observers were surprised with Sony's decision to offer two packages - as well as with the $599 price.

"At least Sony's giving people advance notice on how much they're going to need to save up," said P.J. McNealy, an analyst for American Technology Research. "I think some people are going to find $599 intimidating - maybe not early adopters, but definitely the mainstream audience."

Sony said it is taking steps to avoid the widespread shortages consumers faced last holiday with the Xbox 360. The company plans to ship 2 million PlayStation 3s at launch and plans to ship another 2 million before the end of 2006. Kaz Hirai, president and CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment America, said the company also plans to ship an additional 2 million units in the first quarter of 2007.

"The next generation doesn't start until we say it does," said Hirai.

While Sony is offering two pricing options for consumers, the more expensive machine is much more feature rich – and likely the default choice for gamers who can afford it. This is somewhat similar to Microsoft's launch of the Xbox 360, where the more expensive $399 machine actually proved to be the better bargain.

Although Sony did not note these changes in its pre-E3 press conference, printed material handed out by the company indicate that in addition to having a smaller hard drive, the $499 PS3 will not be able to read data from Sony memory sticks, SD or compact flash cards (a feature Sony touted Monday evening). Nor will it offer 802.11 b/g wireless compatibility. And perhaps most importantly to owners of newer high definition television sets, the $499 PS3 will not have an HDMI output.

Sony said many of the features which were removed from the less expensive version could be found on many home computers and it was relying on the assumption that buyers would be able to use those through their home networks.

"It's a computer system," said spokesperson Kim Otzman. "It can be expanded using adapters on the market."

In addition to revealing the system's price and launch date, Sony showcased more than a dozen titles for the PS3, mixing familiar franchises such as "Tekken" and Electronic Arts (Research)' "NBA Live" with new ones, such as "Heavenly Sword," which bears a striking resemblance to the company's own "God of War" franchise.

The PlayStation 3 is powered by the "Cell" processor, which Sony boasts makes the machine 35 times more powerful than the PlayStation 2. It will support Blu-Ray storage devices, which hold significantly more data than today's DVDs, as well as seven wireless controllers, and has outputs for two high-definition televisions (HDTVs). The PS3 will also offer a free online network.

Sony was the first of the three console manufacturers to speak before the beginning of the Electronic Entertainment Expo, the annual trade show of the computer gaming industry. Nintendo and Microsoft both have press conferences scheduled Tuesday.


http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/08/technology/ps3_pricing/index.htm?cnn=yes

How much will the hd-dvd add on for the 360 cost?So as it stand both systems could be 600+ if you figure in external dvd for xbox.That's a fair price considering it's not just a gaming system.

And also, with the first BD's coming out for around $1000, this is a steal on a BD player alone.

Really, why are people so surprised, you all read the tech sheets, had months of people saying it be expensive, it was all there....

And as said buying prefs and a HDDVD addon for the 360 will bump it quite closer to this anyways. BTW does that support HDMI?

So if you can't aford it wait, or just preorder 2 and sell one on ebay to finance the other :hithere:

That's why personally I'd like the choice to decide whether I wanted a HD drive in the first place. At this point in time HD-DVD or Blu-Ray is not a factor in gaming. I want a gaming console to be a gaming console, not a home theatre. I usually buy my movie equipment separate. It's too bad Sony is forcing their Blu-Ray on loyal PS followers. The PS3 price could of been that much lower.

Well because the casual gamer is not interested in a $600 console. I don't see how PS3 will reach the mainstream. Nintendo, and to an extent MS, have to be tickled pink over PS3 price. ;)

And also, with the first BD's coming out for around $1000, this is a steal on a BD player alone.

Really, why are people so surprised, you all read the tech sheets, had months of people saying it be expensive, it was all there....

And as said buying prefs and a HDDVD addon for the 360 will bump it quite closer to this anyways. BTW does that support HDMI?

So if you can't aford it wait, or just preorder 2 and sell one on ebay to finance the other :hithere:

If SONY was targting the casual gamer,they would've put out a console last year.The 360 isn't for the casual gamer either.You guys act like SONY did something different or shocking with their announced price.The 360 was priced high when it launched with no hddvd included.

I disagree. With PS1 and PS2, sony was known for bringing casual gamers back into console gaming. Part of that was due to its price. Historically, expensive consoles, e.g. Saturn, 3DO, Neo-Geo, etc, fail because casual gamers do not want to spend $500+ for a console. Thats why M$ released the Core. Hopefully with 360's price drop (which I expect to occur at next year's E3) the Core is eliminated unless M$ wants it to be even cheaper to go up against Wii. Now getting back to PS3, the only reason PS3 is so expensive is so that Sony can force yet another proprietary product on consumers. They did this with PSP and so far it has not been a success and the UMD movie market is virtually dead.

If SONY was targting the casual gamer,they would've put out a console last year.The 360 isn't for the casual gamer either.You guys act like SONY did something different or shocking with their announced price.The 360 was priced high when it launched with no hddvd included.

If SONY was targting the casual gamer,they would've put out a console last year.The 360 isn't for the casual gamer either.You guys act like SONY did something different or shocking with their announced price.The 360 was priced high when it launched with no hddvd included.

There's different degrees of gamers, at least from my experience. There are people who basically don't really play video games much but own a system b/c their friends do, they will play maybe 2-3 times a month tops.. the kind of person who owns a PS2 but only has 1 game to play on it, probably GTA 3 or Vice City :rolleyes:. There are people who like to play on weekends and whenever they get some free time but are usually busy with their everyday lives. These are the average J6P Halo 2 players. And then there are hardore gamers, people who spend every single moment of their spare time playing video games. The kind of gamer that can sit down and play World of Warcraft for 10 hrs straight and not think it's a big deal.

Other than AV enthusiasts looking for a cheap Blu-ray player, I don't think the PS3 will attract too many people outside the "hardcore gamer" demographic. Make that "rich hardcore gamer". Alot of blue collar households owned Playstations but that time is now over. None of those people are going to be able to blow $600 on a console and then $60 for every game for it.

Well, looks like I will have to sell some stock in order to purchase 1 of these for my kids (wish it was Sony stock). I remember when my parents flipped over paying $150 for Atari back in 1980ish. I know 150 bucks was alot more money then but dam. Every console I got when I was a kid after (In-TV, Colleco Vision, Nintendo, N64, PS1 -2 etc.) was a little more than it's predecessor but no where near this much. And the technology has alway improved, sometimes leaps and bounds like PS3 is now. Alot of kids are gonna be dissapointed this Christmas (even if sotck is not a huge issue) or they will be getting 360's. I have owned Sony TV's, SSS and DVD players my whole life and didn't mind paying a bit more for the Sony quality, but not this crap. If I want a BR player, I will shell out a grand and get 1, I highly doubt my kids give a dam. PC tech has improved significantly over the years and the prices (even for very high end gamer PC's) have decreased significantly.

I was thinking though and I now its a bit off center but hers my thought and maybe if I knew some answers to the variables it could clear it up but here goes. I paid 500 for my 360,50 bucks for 1 year of XBL,and 50 bucks for another controller....grand tally of 600 bucks.Now if the PS3 could give me 2 controllers and keep their internet play FREE,dont sound so bad to me now.But thats all depending on them variables above,which I actually doubt they will give us 2 paddles but if they would that could help a bunch for me atleast.Does anyone know about this?

Heres my concern, im not sure if everybody will agree with me..

both systems are confirmed from sony to output up to 1080p, however with the 20GB version lacking HDMI(and wifi and memory card slots) I thought component cables could not carry 1080p signals? correct me if im wrong please as i am trying to confirm this myself via google LOL.

another concern i have are blu-ray movies.. from what i understood afew weeks ago, blu-ray movies WILL BE downconverted to 480p if they are not connected via HDMI/HDCP compliant.. so using a component connection would downconvert the blu-ray movies to standard DVD quality.. i dont think no one knowns this for sure as i am over at ps3forums.com and no one has answered it..

if that is the case then there is certainly no point to buying the 20GB version unless the user does not care about blu-ray movies playing in HD(720p,1080i/p).. i for one do care, im looking forward to not only the games but the blu-ray movies themselvs..

Both formats will allow hd playback thru comp. with first generation models.They couldn't get hdmi (1.3) standards worked for the players and tvs.And the 1.3 hdmi connection wasn't happening with tv's.There's more accurate stuff posted in high def dvd category.Down rez is for movies not games.I could be wrong,but they get press links over in that category.

Sony has also stated that they really don't want to push the down flagging copy protection, and a few studios said that they might follow suit.

downgrading signals might be dropped all-together from BD

i think its a bad idea to drop the signal to standard DVD :(

i think its a bad idea to drop the signal to standard DVD :(
There not down rezing movies.Maybe 2-4 years from now.

Thanks Sony for complicating things even more :/

they have said that the ps3 will have 1.3 hdmi when it comes and will have dolby digital plus,dolby digital true hd,but not dts-hd so far.component cables can carry 1080p signals for games and movies but in a few years they may start making bd movies that don't pass hd over the component cables.
I would like to also just say that the ps3 is actually fairly priced cause a xbox 360 is $400 to start but if you add the wireless adapter $90,hell the 20gig harddrive is $100 what are they going to charge for a 60gig or 100 gig what $150-200, crazy.microsoft will probley charge $250-300 for the hd-dvd add on,so how much is xbox 360 now when you add that all up and make it have some of the ps3's features.other people give sony crap because their going to copy xbox live but slightly better,duh cause xbox live is almost perfect they should copy it.
pc gamers pay $650 just for a highend video card out there,which isn't even as good as the xbox 360's or the ps3's.
ps look for me on xbox 360 live gamertag sharpened sense

That's why personally I'd like the choice to decide whether I wanted a HD drive in the first place. At this point in time HD-DVD or Blu-Ray is not a factor in gaming. I want a gaming console to be a gaming console, not a home theatre. I usually buy my movie equipment separate. It's too bad Sony is forcing their Blu-Ray on loyal PS followers. The PS3 price could of been that much lower.

I totally agree.

they have said that the ps3 will have 1.3 hdmi when it comes and will have dolby digital plus,dolby digital true hd,but not dts-hd so far.component cables can carry 1080p signals for games and movies but in a few years they may start making bd movies that don't pass hd over the component cables.
I would like to also just say that the ps3 is actually fairly priced cause a xbox 360 is $400 to start but if you add the wireless adapter $90,hell the 20gig harddrive is $100 what are they going to charge for a 60gig or 100 gig what $150-200, crazy.microsoft will probley charge $250-300 for the hd-dvd add on,so how much is xbox 360 now when you add that all up and make it have some of the ps3's features.other people give sony crap because their going to copy xbox live but slightly better,duh cause xbox live is almost perfect they should copy it.
pc gamers pay $650 just for a highend video card out there,which isn't even as good as the xbox 360's or the ps3's.
ps look for me on xbox 360 live gamertag sharpened sense

So far, without controllers and games(and I don't have xbox live) I have paid 400$ for my xbox. I have the premium pack.
Maybe I didn't understand you correctly(its early morning here) but you through out a lot of hight dollar amounts for stuff that just didn't add up for me.


On a another note. You can bet that ps3 WONT be able to let you PLAY games for free. Didn't you notice they barely mentioned the on line part of their strategie at the show?

Well thats exactly what I'm concerned about,they only mentioned online play and no mention of price.I wouldnt mind paying a little for it if they can offer something similiar to XBL,but I dont know.

To be perfectly honest the only thing that I see better about ps3 vs 360 is the Blu-Ray drive. I don't care how you add it up the 360 is still cheaper than the ps3 when it comes to gaming. $400 for 360 vs. $600 for ps3. Neither comes with a game or 2 controllers. Honestly how long do you think it would be cheaper to buy a console to get your HD than to buy a standalone player. I predict within a year from now there will be many brand players and possible dual format players available for equal to or cheaper than buying a console. Lets face it folks, these systems should be primarily for gaming. I admit that if you are going to shell out the cash for a next-gen console then having HD with it is appealing but these are only short term benefits since cheaper standalone players will surface. The biggest market is kids whose parents have to come up with the cash to pay for these things. Which do you think they will choose.

So far, without controllers and games(and I don't have xbox live) I have paid 400$ for my xbox. I have the premium pack.
Maybe I didn't understand you correctly(its early morning here) but you through out a lot of hight dollar amounts for stuff that just didn't add up for me.


On a another note. You can bet that ps3 WONT be able to let you PLAY games for free. Didn't you notice they barely mentioned the on line part of their strategie at the show?

what i was just saying was if you were to add those extra built in features that the ps3 has like wireless networking,HD drive for movies and games cause the games of the future will be needing that extra space cause i have already read at several places that oblivion actually needed two dvd's to fit what was originally in it but microsoft had them take some stuff out of the pc and xbox 360 version's so that way they wouldn't prove sony right about needing more disc space by filling a whole dvd(I don't know if this is actually true or not but that is what i have been hearing on xbox live) and microsoft didn't want to make their system more expensive then it is and the 60gig harddrive is buit in (which should extremely help load times) compared to the xbox 360's 20gig that cost $100 if you have to buy it seperately so how much are they going to charge for a 60gig or 100gig probley a whole lot.plus for the people who are gear freaks like me, they let you watch HD movies at 1080p(which all future HDtv's will be) from a highend machine that has a video card that is better then any current pc video card out their right now.Gear freaks will also like that the ps3 can movies and games in dolby digital true hd(lossless) surround sound.Now will admit i think the $500 ps3 is overpriced it probley should have been $400 that would have made thing's really interesting i think.
either way xbox 360 :bowdown:
ps3 :bowdown:
Wii for adult gamers :eek: Wii for kids :yippee:

man now that i read my last post i notice that i lose train of thoght quickly.:thumbsup:

Here's what siccivic420 was saying The xbox 360 with a 20gb hd costs $399.99 add a wireless adapter $99.99 it has no hdmi outs either plus no hd-dvd playback,total price $499.99 + xbox live subscription.The PS3 with a 60gb hd,1 hdmi port,1 bluetooth wireless controller,free on-line gaming service (similar to xbox live)built in blu-ray drive,built in wi-fi capabilities,ethernet port,you can add seven wireless controllers yes the price seems high for $599.But in reality if you trick out your xbox the price easily surpass $599 because at this time M$ hasn't announced the real intentions behind an external hd-dvd drive.There where be a point and time the game developers will need the larger storage capicity of the hd-dvd.But you cant output hd thru usb.Granted M$ will drop the price in Nov.

At $600, Microsoft is going to take over the market. If Microsoft is smart, they will drop their price slightly at PS3 launch just to generate enthusiasm and make the price disparity stand out.

Dumb move by Sony.

Here's what siccivic420 was saying The xbox 360 with a 20gb hd costs $399.99 add a wireless adapter $99.99 it has no hdmi outs either plus no hd-dvd playback,total price $499.99 + xbox live subscription.The PS3 with a 60gb hd,1 hdmi port,1 bluetooth wireless controller,free on-line gaming service (similar to xbox live)built in blu-ray drive,built in wi-fi capabilities,ethernet port,you can add seven wireless controllers yes the price seems high for $599.But in reality if you trick out your xbox the price easily surpass $599 because at this time M$ hasn't announced the real intentions behind an external hd-dvd drive.There where be a point and time the game developers will need the larger storage capicity of the hd-dvd.But you cant output hd thru usb.Granted M$ will drop the price in Nov.

thank you that's what i was trying to say but at around 2:00am i don't really know what i'm talking about.i believe i payed like $250 for the nes when it came out in 84-85 and that was a whole lot back then.$300 for a ps1 in "94,$300 for a n64 in "96,with inflation the prices for highend consoles were going to go up someday.Atleast we don't have to pay to upgrade every 6 monthes like pc gamers just to play the new games the way they were intended.

PS3 sells for $599 dollars for the 60GB hard drive.

This sounds like a great price :hithere:

Right now, on crutchfield, a Bluray player is $1000...and one of those won't even play cd's (model Sony BDP-S1). An HD-DVD player is $500 to $800. Crutchfield HD DVD and Blu-Ray Players (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-kdJ04cqx7tU/cgi-bin/ProdGroup.asp?g=279850)

Those players don't have the ablility to do anthing else except play movies.

So just call the PS3 a Blu-Ray player and it is :)
Call the PS3 a game console and it seems like :(

All in perception.

True but the average person is not going to spend $1000 on BD nor will they spend $600 for a console that plays BD. Sony may have priced itself out of the market, esp for the mainstream.


So just call the PS3 a Blu-Ray player and it is :)
Call the PS3 a game console and it seems like :(

All in perception.

:cool: I'm gonna buy a Wii to have more fun and $save monii$. I just want to have fun playing games with my girlfriend and with the totally FREE online nintendo wifi connection (they've announced it's exact SAME connection the DS currently uses btw) agains fools from all over the globe. I'm not interested in high def DVD 'till about 2008 when the stand alone players (beefed up to play standard dvd, CD-audio, MP3, jpeg and videocd are available at ~ $200.00) and DVD's start to become affordable. Assuming the Wii will be less than 1/2 the price of loaded 360, or 1/3 that of the PS3, I'll be able to buy the Wii + one controller + 4 or more games-at launch-all for the cost of what MS or Sony want you to pay for JUST THE DAMN SYSTEM with NO GAMES!! The decision, for me, is a nobrainer. :thumbsup: Wii = fun. 360/PS3 = broke GFX whoredom.