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New advice on how to hide wires!!

jderry78
12-09-2005, 12:12 PM
I recently moved into my new home and installed my 6.1 surrond sound. I currenlty have the wires running up from the TV and across the ceiling to the back speakers as a temp fix. I am looking for input on an inexpensive way to hide the wires. The room does not have molding at the top of the walls, the ceiling is off white textured sheetrock. The floor is carpeted but still would have to run wire up walls. Thanks in advance for any input you provide.

daleb
12-09-2005, 01:12 PM
There are ways to run wires through walls by making a series of holes.
Certainly easier to have run the wires over the ceiling during initial construction, as I'm sure you know.
Here's some good instructions. Naturally, if you don't plan to use brackets, you will need to find a location between rafters to allow for the diameter of the speakers you intend to use.

http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/remodeling/article/0,1797,HGTV_3659_1678369,00.html

If you have a backwall for the furthest most speaker, and two opposing walls for the side surrounds, you don't have to use the ceiling.

You seem opposed to spanning the greatest distance by running wires along the floor. Sometimes there are fairly generous gaps just under the side moulding and any wires in that cavity would be hidden by carpeting. Of course, if you are in a large area, or no close by opposing walls, I think you would forced to use the crawlspace in the ceiling.

rbinck
12-09-2005, 01:16 PM
The addition of crown moulding makes a great wireway and dresses up a room as well. If you are looking for cheap and easy, it's too late. Cheap and easy is done at the framed in stage.

HD Bengals fan
12-09-2005, 01:35 PM
I agree with rbnick. If you can add crown molding to your room, that would be the easiet fix. If the room you are talking about is not the basement, is there an unfinished basement or crawlspace underneath the room? You could always send the wires down there and try to fish them up the inside of the walls to the speaker mounts. That is alot more work though and requires at least 2 people.

jderry78
12-09-2005, 01:45 PM
There is no basement or crawl space under the house, and it is the first floor of the house so I can't get into the attic to run them either.

HD Bengals fan
12-09-2005, 02:01 PM
sounds like you should have invested in wireless speakers...

Your only other option is probably the crown moulding. If you go that route, drill a hole in the wall (near the bottom) behind your receiver and another hole at the top (you can cover up this hole with the molding). Make sure there are no horizontal studs that will get in your way. Then use fish tape to pull the wires up to the top. Secure the wires to the top of the wall as you run them to the speakers, turn everything on to make sure it works, then install your moulding.

Any plans to replace the carpet in the room?

daleb
12-09-2005, 03:25 PM
Secure the wires to the top of the wall as you run them to the speakers, turn everything on to make sure it works, then install your moulding.



I was also thinking he could cut a slot in the ceiling dry wall and shove in the wires that are crossing over from the crown moulding. Then when everything is done spackle over the slot and touch it up.

HD Bengals fan
12-09-2005, 03:28 PM
not a bad thought, but you have to make sure that you have paint to match the existing ceiling paint. You will have to "touch up" after spackling. If you don't have the paint to match the ceiling, you will have to re-paint the entire ceiling. :eek:

RSawdey
12-09-2005, 03:56 PM
Another option is to use the HVAC(heating, ventilation, air conditioning) ducts. I ran my rears thru my cold air return in my last house. Code allows low voltage stuff there, but not AC power. Premium cabling may be required.

daleb
12-09-2005, 04:23 PM
not a bad thought, but you have to make sure that you have paint to match the existing ceiling paint. You will have to "touch up" after spackling. If you don't have the paint to match the ceiling, you will have to re-paint the entire ceiling. :eek:

Not a problem. Take a sample to a paint store, or Home Depot, etc. they can computer match it. Maybe need to add some 'stuff' if it's textured though. But it should be a very small area.

daleb
12-09-2005, 04:24 PM
Another option is to use the HVAC(heating, ventilation, air conditioning) ducts. I ran my rears thru my cold air return in my last house. Code allows low voltage stuff there, but not AC power. Premium cabling may be required.

Problem is, he has limited ceiling clearance. May be ducts in the walls, and then he needs to transition from the vents to the speaker locations.

jderry78
12-09-2005, 05:30 PM
Thank you for all your advice I think I will go with the molding and drill a hole direclty behind the TV and one at the top and run the wire that way. Thank you all for your input it was very usefull :bowdown:

coyote
12-13-2005, 09:14 AM
I'm about to do the crown molding thing too. Fortunately I was able to get the wires up through a wall first.

One bit of advice: When you put up the crown molding, remember that these speaker cables may not be the last thing you ever run behind the molding.... along with the speaker wires, remember to leave a drag line in with them.

rbinck
12-13-2005, 11:25 AM
Good suggestion, coyote.

tydriver
12-13-2005, 11:45 AM
An option I didn't see mentioned is to use flat wires under the carpet, and up the walls then painted. The ones I bought claimed to be paintable, but I didn't try... I only used them under carpet. They'll be visible, but maybe less conspicuous than regular wire or conduit.

marulamoyo
12-13-2005, 12:18 PM
Where can you get flat wiring from ?

daleb
12-13-2005, 12:30 PM
An option I didn't see mentioned is to use flat wires under the carpet, and up the walls then painted. The ones I bought claimed to be paintable, but I didn't try... I only used them under carpet. They'll be visible, but maybe less conspicuous than regular wire or conduit.

Actually, I did suggest that. But along the sides, not actually underneath the carpeting.

"Sometimes there are fairly generous gaps just under the side moulding and any wires in that cavity would be hidden by carpeting."

bmwcyle
12-13-2005, 06:48 PM
Where can you get flat wiring from ?
http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage.cfm?webpage_id=3&SO=2&&DID=7&CATID=56&ObjectGroup_ID=370