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Need Help in DC Area

urbals
04-13-2012, 03:57 PM
I am trying to receive OTA signal in my house. I have tried a couple of different amplified loop and rabbit ear set-ups from RadioShack with very limited success even on the third floor of my house. I consulted TVFool and have attached a picture of the readout I got from them. As you can see, they say that I should be good for a number of channels with a set top antenna, but I have not been thus far. Interestingly, when I go their map utility, it seems to suggest that I am on the border of needing to place my antenna in the attic and maybe get a better antenna.

My question is whether or not it seems like the attic is a good choice. Is reception better up there for any reason other than altitude? I would be aiming out of the asphalt shingle/plywood roof, not the gables. Also, should I try a better antenna? Thanks for your help!

1happyguy
04-13-2012, 07:04 PM
Give me a few and I will get you some options!!

hoopitup2000
04-13-2012, 09:52 PM
While the signal strengths from DC are decent at your location, predicting reliable reception with an attic mounted antenna is a crap shoot at best. A small outdoor antenna like this one (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=rca+ant751&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=9246792982899958179&sa=X&ei=-fGIT_HTNYrz0gGBobDRCQ&ved=0CHcQ8wIwAg) would be my first choice given this scenario. The ANT 751 is barely noticeable once on the roof.

Is an attic installation your only option?

projectsho89
04-14-2012, 05:39 AM
Use the mapping tool (instead of the address lookup) to precisely get your location. The lookup is often inaccurate or simply wrong.

Post the LINK (not the picture) to the new report.

urbals
04-16-2012, 09:24 AM
Thanks for the replies, and sorry I am late in replying myself.

An attic install is not the only option, it would just be significantly easier. I had considered the RCA antenna that was recommended. Could that be attic mounted, or must it be outside?

Has anyone heard anything good about/had good experience with the Mohu Leaf Plus? It seems like it may be a good fit... if it will work.

Thanks again!

PS - The system will not let me post URL's until I have 5 posts or more, so bear with me for a few posts.

urbals
04-16-2012, 09:26 AM
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urbals
04-16-2012, 09:30 AM
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urbals
04-16-2012, 09:31 AM
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urbals
04-16-2012, 09:33 AM
Alright, now that's done, here (http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=90)is the link to the radar picture for my location from tvfool.

Thanks!

tigerbangs
04-16-2012, 10:30 AM
Your link didn't post properly....

urbals
04-16-2012, 11:56 AM
Hmmm... Not sure why that didn't work. Here, let's just try posting the link. If this doesn't work, please just use these coordinates 39.033663,-77.47312. Also, I used the default of 10 ft AGL for the height. I played with it a bit, and it doesn't make a big difference as far as the picture is concerned.

http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=90

projectsho89
04-16-2012, 04:49 PM
Okay, you have to follow the directions on sharing the link that are posted on the results page. They're right there on the page with the radar plot....

If you would like to share these results with others, this page can be referenced as:
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d3616c2b903311d

tigerbangs
04-16-2012, 05:43 PM
Your TV signals from DC are obstructed by hills between your location and the transmitters, hence signal strengths are somewhat low given the distance that you are from the transmitters. You would greatly benefit from a small outdoor, roof-mounted antenna aimed at the DC transmitters, which lie roughly 115 degrees compass heading from your location. I would suggest using a Winegard HD-7694P for such a situation. Adding a rotator and upsizing the antenna to a Winegard HD-7696P would also allow you to see the Baltimore TV stations.

urbals
04-16-2012, 06:47 PM
Thanks for the help everyone!

I suppose I know the answer since "Real men don't use indoor antennas", but does anyone have an opinion on the Mohu Leaf Plus, or am I just wasting my time if I try that?

tigerbangs
04-16-2012, 07:36 PM
I guess it depends on how much your time is worth? You will see some DC stations, but not WUSA and WJLA: frankly, I wouldn't waste my time. Install the antenna that I suggested, and remove doubt and frustration.

hoopitup2000
04-16-2012, 07:56 PM
Don't waste your time with the Mohu Leaf. You need a "real" antenna mounted on the roof for reliable reception of the DC stations.

The absolute minimum antenna recommendation would be the RCA ANT 751. The slightly larger Winegard 7694 recommended above would be an even better choice. Both are very inconspicuous from the ground when mounted on the roof.

The low flying aircraft from Dulles Airport can be a possible source of frustration with an indoor/attic antenna. The large jets planes can cause periodic/annoying signal interruptions.

Toronto+KazQC
04-17-2012, 02:44 AM
Thanks for the help everyone!

I suppose I know the answer since "Real men don't use indoor antennas", but does anyone have an opinion on the Mohu Leaf Plus, or am I just wasting my time if I try that?

We all know about the Mohu Leaf Plus, and no one here has recommended it - I doubt, ever.

Maybe for a college kid in a dorm room.

Take the experts' advice here and enjoy years reliable trouble-free TV.

urbals
04-17-2012, 05:45 PM
Alright guys, I give. I will try the RCA ANT751 and see what happens. Stay tuned and I will let you know how it goes. Thanks for all your help!

tigerbangs
04-17-2012, 09:08 PM
For the couple of extra bucks it will cost you, the Winegard HD-7694P is a better antenna, by far

hoopitup2000
04-18-2012, 07:40 AM
For the couple of extra bucks it will cost you, the Winegard HD-7694P is a better antenna, by farAgree 100%.

If you do decide on the ANT 751, I suggest picking it up at Walmart so you can easily return it if reception proves unsatisfactory.

urbals
04-24-2012, 05:51 PM
Thanks for all your help fellas!

I ordered and installed the RCA ANT 751 and it works perfect... almost. I need to get the signal from the antenna to the rest of the house. I got a 50' coil of RG-6 and plugged it into my laptop and the signal was amazing. I tried plugging it into the wall jack to distribute the signal over the household cabling to the rest of the jacks in the house and got nothing.

Does this not work? Do I just need an amplifier on the antenna? One more stupid question. If I do this, should I tell my TV to look for OTA antenna or cable antenna, or does it not matter?

Thanks again!

projectsho89
04-24-2012, 07:01 PM
No, you can't plug it into the wall jack to distribute the signal. You have to (usually) get the signal outside to the distribution box, then feed it back in to all the outlets.

urbals
05-16-2012, 07:29 PM
Hey all, just wanted to post a quick update to let you know how this project turned out. I ended up installing the RCA ANT-571 in the attic. It got beautiful signal, but could not figure out how to get the signal routed through the rest of the house. I plugged it into the wall jack in the bed room outside the attic, and found that I did not get a picture at all. I went out back and found the cable splitter, then identified the cable which was connected to the jack that I had the antenna plugged into and made that the "in" to the splitter. Now I was getting signal throughout the house, but it was way weak. One Philips 18 dB amp later, and I am solid gold. It has been working perfect for about two weeks now.

Sorry for the late reply, but in the meant time we have been sleep training our baby and that took priority. Now if anyone has a quick remedy for that...