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Eastern Long Island

Oldphil
03-31-2012, 02:27 PM
Hi I am a retired guy on a budget and want to get free from cable, need ideas and advice to switch to and outdoor antenna.

Phil

jscudder
04-02-2012, 05:56 AM
Hi I am a retired guy on a budget and want to get free from cable, need ideas and advice to switch to and outdoor antenna.

Phil

Go to TVFool.com and look up your address to see which OTA stations are available to you.

Dish Network also has packages as low as $15 (not just an introductory price - the actual price) http://www.mydish.com/upgrades/english-packages/ They call it the 'Welcome Pack' which has all locals and some popular 'cable' channels.

maxmoore
04-02-2012, 07:58 AM
Hi I am a retired guy on a budget and want to get free from cable, need ideas and advice to switch to and outdoor antenna.

Phil

Hi there!
I am looking for the same! Any help!

Toronto+KazQC
04-02-2012, 09:59 AM
We can't give any advice without a report from TV Fool .com

Different locations and different TV stations require different antennas.

Please provide the links to your TV Fool reports and we'll be able to provide advice.

Oldphil
04-02-2012, 04:42 PM
Hi and thanks for the replies attached it the FOOL graph.

Phil

Toronto+KazQC
04-03-2012, 03:22 AM
Old Phil,

The Best Setup:

30-foot tower
Antennas Direct 91xg
Channel Master 7778
Rotator


More Realistic Budget Setup that will work well:

Strapped to a chimney at roof height.
single mast.
Two antennas - Two Antennas Direct DB4e antennas
combined using two identical lengths of RG6 through a Channel Master 3212 splitter/joiner.
Instert the combined line into a Channel Master 7778
RG6 coax cable down to ground and into house.
Each antenna can be aimed in different directions to try to get a wide enough beam width to catch as many signals as possible that are coming from the north and west of you.
You'll have to play with the aim.


My "realistic" setup is a decent budget-conscious first-try set-up. My proposed set-up would not attempt to pull-in any of the channels on VHF (real channels 2-13 on your TV Fool report) nor would it attempt to pull in WVVT on rf 50. I think it is acceptable because you have many redundant major network signals coming in so I don't think you'd be losing any major networks.

In my judgement, if you want to try to get those VHF stations you will need the tower setup with the rotator and you'll need to add an Antennacraft y10-7-13 antenna and even then, you might not get good reception of those VHF stations.

Best of luck to you and report back!

JB Antennaman
04-03-2012, 07:48 AM
Old Phil,

The Best Setup:

30-foot tower
Antennas Direct 91xg
Channel Master 7778
Rotator


More Realistic Budget Setup that will work well:

Strapped to a chimney at roof height.
single mast.
Two antennas - Two Antennas Direct DB4e antennas
combined using two identical lengths of RG6 through a Channel Master 3212 splitter/joiner.
Instert the combined line into a Channel Master 7778
RG6 coax cable down to ground and into house.
Each antenna can be aimed in different directions to try to get a wide enough beam width to catch as many signals as possible that are coming from the north and west of you.
You'll have to play with the aim.


My "realistic" setup is a decent budget-conscious first-try set-up. My proposed set-up would not attempt to pull-in any of the channels on VHF (real channels 2-13 on your TV Fool report) nor would it attempt to pull in WVVT on rf 50. I think it is acceptable because you have many redundant major network signals coming in so I don't think you'd be losing any major networks.

In my judgement, if you want to try to get those VHF stations you will need the tower setup with the rotator and you'll need to add an Antennacraft y10-7-13 antenna and even then, you might not get good reception of those VHF stations.

Best of luck to you and report back!

And for the cost of either one, you could pay several years of the basic cable package.
There is no economical solution for people who doesn't want to spend a lot of money - that lives more then a couple of miles away from the transmitters.
There is no more rabbit ears antenna's - one size fits all.

dumont
04-06-2012, 12:44 PM
Phil if you have a digital tv I would buy a not too fancy indoor/outdoor antenna. Aim it at NYC and try a scan. Next try CT and scan. Might as well try RI as well. I think Long island is flat as a pancake so you may have a good shot at something. Based on this experiment you can decide which way to go.

tigerbangs
04-12-2012, 08:45 AM
I have been following this thread, and the advice given here has been questionable. NYC isn't really a good option because the numbers are all in the negative range, precluding reliable reception without spending a LOT of money for a tower and huge antennas. The Hartford-New Haven stations are a far more logical choice for reliable reception in this location. The choice of an AntennasDirect XG-91 is a good one when it is aimed at the Hartford transmitters, (360 degrees compass position ). Adding an AntennaCraft Y-10-7-13 aimed at WTNH in New Haven will add ABC (344 degrees) when combined with a preamplifier with separate VHF and UHF inputs ( the Channel Master 7778 no longer has them) I would suggest using an AntennaCraft 10G221, which has separate inputs, and will resist the high-input signals from the local UHF transmitters. Altitude will he helpful, although I question the need for a 30' tower