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KCAL9 in san diego

bluerogue85
03-15-2012, 05:55 PM
now i know its been a few years since this topic was discussed but recently my dad and i have been trying to get kcal9 in san diego..ive heard others get it too from here in sd..can someone please help me me co-channel and adjacent channel warnings i think i might have them..cause we have been able to get la cbs and nbc4la and other spanish channels all from la..please help..ive been like researching this for like over a week now day and night.. im all confused about the gain and mhz and if i should put the antenna higher or what not..i live like right in front of a mountain too but if i can get all those la channels i know i can get kcal..ne info you need just ask thanks for the help..

JB Antennaman
03-15-2012, 08:28 PM
now i know its been a few years since this topic was discussed but recently my dad and i have been trying to get kcal9 in san diego..ive heard others get it too from here in sd..can someone please help me me co-channel and adjacent channel warnings i think i might have them..cause we have been able to get la cbs and nbc4la and other spanish channels all from la..please help..ive been like researching this for like over a week now day and night.. im all confused about the gain and mhz and if i should put the antenna higher or what not..i live like right in front of a mountain too but if i can get all those la channels i know i can get kcal..ne info you need just ask thanks for the help..

I'm at a disadvantage here because I do not know where you live.

Co channel interference occurs when you have two signals of a similar frequency - side by side in a single area.
Since the DTV transistion, many of the channels now has both real and virtual channels.

A real channel - lets use WWCP for a example - since I am already familiar with it.
WWCP operates on a frequency of 180 - 186 Mhz
They have held this frequency for many years.

WJAC 6 in Johnstown PA - was on channel 6 when it was analog and has since migrated up into the UHF on a frequency 282 - 288 Mhz - or the frequency allotted for channel 34....
http://hamradio.arc.nasa.gov/ntscfreq.html

The PSIP - Program system information protocol tells the television to display that channel as channel 6, even though it is received with a antenna and receiver tuned for channel 34.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Program_and_System_Information_Protocol

VHF channels requires a VHF antenna.
UHF channels requires a UHF antenna.
Either antenna has to be AIMED directly at the strongest part of the signal in order to receive it when it is more then 40 miles away.
UHF experiences more loss in the wire going from the antenna to the television - hence if the signal is weak, it requires some sort of pre amplifier at the antenna to over come the loss of the wire.

You cannot amplifiy a signal.
If you put crap in one end of the coax and then try to amplify it, all that comes out the other end is a larger piece of crap.

Co channel interference is when you have two television stations from the same direction, or in the same neighborhood and one is stronger then the other and they are on frequencys beside each other.

Channel 10 in Altoona PA is broadcasted on the frequency of channel 32 / 578 - 584 MHz.
Because there is a mountain between Johnstown and Altoona in Pennsylvania, neither station can be received in the others town and neither station interferes with the other..
How ever - if you live north of both locations - say in Punxsutawney, you can receive each station well with one good antenna, as long as you are willing to aim it directly at the strongest portion of the signal.

IN the analog days - each station in a market had to be seperated by one channel from the next - something called a guard channel, so one would not interfer with the other.

In Pittsburgh PA those channels were 2 / 4 / 6 / 8 / 11 / 13
In Johnstown / Altoona they were 3 / 6 / 8 / 10 / 19 / 23
In Cleveland OH - 120 miles away - they were 3 / 5 / 7 / 9 / 12

Without a street level address, we cannot help you.

100plus2Vegas
03-15-2012, 09:07 PM
now i know its been a few years since this topic was discussed but recently my dad and i have been trying to get kcal9 in san diego..ive heard others get it too from here in sd..can someone please help me me co-channel and adjacent channel warnings i think i might have them..cause we have been able to get la cbs and nbc4la and other spanish channels all from la..please help..ive been like researching this for like over a week now day and night.. im all confused about the gain and mhz and if i should put the antenna higher or what not..i live like right in front of a mountain too but if i can get all those la channels i know i can get kcal..ne info you need just ask thanks for the help..

I live in Oceanside and have tried to get it with a $35 RCA antenna, but have been unsucessful. I have other buildings and some trees in the way. I plan on getting a higher quality antenna and trying again. My main reason for wating this channel is to watch the Dodger games.

My mother who also lives in Oceanside can get Kcal at times. She has a clear shot to LA with no obstructions.

What city do you live in?

bubbagscotch
03-16-2012, 02:56 AM
Probably would be good to get an outdoor antenna that supports VHF and UHF signals. What model of RCA antenna did you get for 35 dollars? I think an outdoor antenna would best suit your needs.

jim5506
03-17-2012, 10:16 AM
You are 80+ miles from the Mt. Wilson transmitters, but your main problem is probably a LD transmitter on channel 9 out of the San Diego area they both hit you with about the same strength of signal.

You will need a highly directional yagi to reject that channel from behind you and pick up the LA station from the NNW.

I would get a Winegard YA-1713 or an AntennaCraft Y-10-713 and see if that helps. You may need to add a small VHF preamp like the Winegard HP-269 to pull it in 24/7.

bluerogue85
03-18-2012, 01:27 AM
i live in 92129 right below black mtn BUT i was able to pick up a lot of spanish channels from LA AND was able to get nbc4la and can get cbsla but too weak it lags i have the 2012 AX-909G2.3 Variable digital outdoor TV antenna 1080p from digitalhdsource i know i kcal9 is channel 9 but dont get it..theres just gotta be a way! its killing me..cause i pointed it going west so theres not mountains and i guess it picks up the transmitter right on the west coast.i live on oviedo st.check it out on tvfool and please anything will help..i got my cable btw which i believe is 25 feet to the pre amp whatever box you call it and then from there its like almost 50 feet its long goes to my backyard and i noticed the higher the antenna is place the better lol.but i just want that channel. thank you!