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Thinking of getting DirecTV

s1njin
02-24-2012, 12:44 PM
Hey Gang,

I'm considering DirecTV for my new home which should be completed around October of this year.

If I am going HD and plan on getting the whole house DVR, am I going to have 2 COAX cables going into the main box? Or has the technology advanced where I can do this w/ one COAX cable?

Also, is there a picture of the actual physical dish they'd be mounting on my house? Just so I know what it would look like?

Thanks much !

mikellie
02-24-2012, 01:49 PM
There is one cable coming into the box and one cable coming into your router for internet to all the boxes. Also, there is a physical dish that would be pointing to the West and South. I have been a DirecTV customer since 2000 and will never leave them. They have excellent customer support...especially if you have the protection plan (which I highly recommend). Good luck to you and I hope you enjoy DirecTV.

DoctorCAD
02-24-2012, 05:39 PM
New boxes don't even need the network cable, it is all on the single cable now.

piperurhy
02-24-2012, 07:32 PM
New boxes don't even need the network cable, it is all on the single cable now.

Wow?Really? http://www.ckyo.info/jpg1

mikellie
02-25-2012, 04:04 AM
I just had the Newest and best HR 34 installed with Whole Home and you do only have one single cable. But if you want to tie all your receivers into the network for YouTube and Pandora, you have to have a deca hooked up which requires another cable. So that is 2 cables like I said.

johns70
02-25-2012, 07:28 AM
I really like DIRECTV. I've been a customer for 15 years. I don't plan on leaving anytime soon, but I wouldn't go as far to say I'll never leave them.

spokybob
02-26-2012, 01:17 PM
I have the DECA thing on my first DVR and only have one cable to the second DVR and I do watch YouTube on both DVRs.

DoctorCAD
02-26-2012, 02:48 PM
I have the DECA thing on my first DVR and only have one cable to the second DVR and I do watch YouTube on both DVRs.

I haven't had Direct for 9 months, but that's what I meant when I said only one cable was required.

Have they changed that?

WestDC
02-26-2012, 03:11 PM
I haven't had Direct for 9 months, but that's what I meant when I said only one cable was required.

Have they changed that?

Only one cable is required (for Two tuner) use on a SWIM System.

TWO CABLES are required on NON-SWIM installs (legacy Systems)

mikellie
02-26-2012, 04:43 PM
Whatever. On a SWIM system there is one cable to each box. In order to network all of them, requires another cable to the DECA broadband router. So if you have 4 boxes, you will need 5 wires.

s1njin
02-27-2012, 06:48 AM
If I order new service, how do I know if I'm getting SWIM or not? What the heck is SWIM anyway?

mikellie
02-27-2012, 10:51 AM
It means Single Wire Multiswitch. If you order Whole Home DVR your installer will automatically install the new SWiM splitter. The new HR34 also requires this. There are 5 tuners in the HR34 that allow you to record 5 things at once with only one cable coming into the receiver. Pretty good stuff. I had 2 HR22's with 4 cables running into my living room. Bought the HR34 and now I have one cable and more recording options.

mikellie
02-27-2012, 10:53 AM
Just call DirecTV and ask them what all of your options are. They will be glad to explain everything to you. Or you can go to a local installer and have them show you. Good Luck.

Jodean
02-27-2012, 04:06 PM
Whatever. On a SWIM system there is one cable to each box. In order to network all of them, requires another cable to the DECA broadband router. So if you have 4 boxes, you will need 5 wires.

Ya whatever, you are explaining this wrong.....

There is only one wire to ANYTHING, nothing takes two cables.

One cable for dvr, one cable for hd or standard box, one cable to the broad band deca.

If the deca happens to be next to a receiver, there is still only one cable, then a splitter to the deca, which is still only ONE cable to that room.

When someone asks how many cables, they are referring to how many to each location or room, sure you can count hmdi and audio and other cables.......ITS ONE CABLE!!!!

s1njin
02-28-2012, 06:28 AM
What's the broad band 'deca'? Do they plug into a already existing router or switch that I have or are they bringing along another device?

I read I have to have phone and internet live before the installer shows up - so when I do this move in October I really have to have my mind made up w/ a Cablevision triple play or just use them for phone / internet and let DirecTV be my viewing choice.

This is obviously far out, but TV is important !!

s1njin
02-28-2012, 09:28 AM
Bah, I just found out Cablevision doesn't even offer multi-room DVR in my area. And their implementation of it is to have it stored on a central server and streamed down to the boxes. Which to me is just going to hog the bandwidth for my internet unnecessarily. The case for DirecTV improves !

mikellie
02-28-2012, 10:09 AM
Excuse me Jody. I explained it the way that mine was professionally hooked up. If they did it wrong, it's not my fault and it still works. Instead of a splitter, they used another line. I had 4 of them in my living room, so they just got rid of 2 of them and used the other 2 as long as they were there. No big deal. And by the way, you might want to get your keyboard checked out...your CAPS KEY IS STUCK!!

Jodean
02-29-2012, 10:50 PM
Excuse me Jody. I explained it the way that mine was professionally hooked up. If they did it wrong, it's not my fault and it still works. Instead of a splitter, they used another line. I had 4 of them in my living room, so they just got rid of 2 of them and used the other 2 as long as they were there. No big deal. And by the way, you might want to get your keyboard checked out...your CAPS KEY IS STUCK!!

If you don't know you shouldn't say things that arnt true. Caps lock key is NOT stuck....

Im an installer, your system was jerry rigged by using existing cables. That is not the norm. They didnt run 2 lines, they were already there. No installer would run an extra line to that room when he could use a splitter instead, new installs would NOT look like yours.

Unless you understand the system, just keep quiet and let someone that knows chime in.

mikellie
03-01-2012, 11:24 AM
Just because you say you are an installer, doesn't mean you are. An installer put my system in. I'm sure they all do it differently. I would much rather have a dedicated line to my network anyhow so I have no problem with the way he did it. I have been a satellite tv customer since 1989 and DirecTV since 1995. I am very knowledgeable when it comes to any audio or video equipment and probably know as much, if not more, than you do about my system and setup. I have had 3 different dishes and at least 6 different kinds of receivers. So don't give me any of your crap about being an installer thinking you know more than everybody on this site.

mikellie
03-01-2012, 11:28 AM
Plus, it looks like you are a DishNetwork installer. You have Dish equipment. If this is true, then what the hell are you doing on the DirecTV forum anyhow?

Rapidturtle
03-01-2012, 11:54 AM
We had Cablevision for a year for internet and T.V. Their internet is good, but T.V. really sucks. Their boxes were so slow. Changing the channels and going through the guide was terrible. That was 3 years ago, so things may have changed, but I would check out someone with Cablevision to see for yourself.
You could also go with the triple play for Cablevision to save some money for the year, and then just switch to Directv when your Cable rates get raised. One good thing about Cablevision is they only charge you $5 extra for internet when not using their T.V. service. Some Cable providers actually charge an extra $15 to $20 for internet.
Right now we have Dish(when contract is up gong over to Direct in July) Cablevision internet, and we use Ooma for our phone service. It works great and we only pay about $4 per month for the phone taxes. I'm pretty sure that Cable's phone service is at least $30 per month.

s1njin
03-02-2012, 06:15 AM
We had Cablevision for a year for internet and T.V. Their internet is good, but T.V. really sucks. Their boxes were so slow. Changing the channels and going through the guide was terrible. That was 3 years ago, so things may have changed, but I would check out someone with Cablevision to see for yourself.
You could also go with the triple play for Cablevision to save some money for the year, and then just switch to Directv when your Cable rates get raised. One good thing about Cablevision is they only charge you $5 extra for internet when not using their T.V. service. Some Cable providers actually charge an extra $15 to $20 for internet.
Right now we have Dish(when contract is up gong over to Direct in July) Cablevision internet, and we use Ooma for our phone service. It works great and we only pay about $4 per month for the phone taxes. I'm pretty sure that Cable's phone service is at least $30 per month.

How long have you used OOMA? Never heard of it before now, and I have to say it looks enticing.

Rapidturtle
03-02-2012, 07:30 AM
I've had it for over a year now, with no problems at all. You can buy the box at stores like Best Buy for around $199. I got mine from Woot for around $129, but it was a refurb. It is a VOIP service, and just hooks up to your router. They have a premier service for around $10 per month, but you don't have to take that. It just adds a bunch of features that I don't really use. The standard includes caller id, and voicemail, call waiting and such, so that is plenty for me.
If you look into the service, it is very highly rated. The startup cost is a little high, but if you keep an eye on it, you might be able to catch it on sale. I have not had to use customer service yet for anything, so I can't comment on how that is. If the box breaks, I would imagine that I would have to buy another one when it is out of warranty.

They will port your phone# over, but check to see that your number is portable. Mine wasn't, so we had to get a new number. I guess they can't numbers in certain areas.

s1njin
03-05-2012, 06:34 AM
If I am going whole house DVR - do I still need a phone line available for DirecTV? Or can I use straight Ethernet to the DVR instead?

I'm thinking of using OOMA or something similar for my phone to save some money ...

joed32
03-05-2012, 07:07 AM
You haven't needed a phone line for years. Lots of people don't even have land line anymore.

s1njin
03-05-2012, 09:11 AM
You haven't needed a phone line for years. Lots of people don't even have land line anymore.

Great !!! Thanks much !

s1njin
04-05-2012, 06:14 AM
Okay, so I'm 4th and inches from signing off on the structured wiring package that my builder offers. Just so I'm clear, I am only going to need ONE cable jack for each receiver/box - even if I'm going whole house DVR?

A buddy of mine says I need 2 cable lines going into the DVR, however his system was installed 3 years ago.

Thanks much.

WestDC
04-05-2012, 06:49 AM
Okay, so I'm 4th and inches from signing off on the structured wiring package that my builder offers. Just so I'm clear, I am only going to need ONE cable jack for each receiver/box - even if I'm going whole house DVR?

A buddy of mine says I need 2 cable lines going into the DVR, however his system was installed 3 years ago.

Thanks much.

you will only need one RG6 (be sure the contractor) installs Solid Copper core Rg6 , D* will install a single wire system on All new installs so you will only need one RG6 at all TV locations these should all be home runs to a central location.

Side note- Most New TV's Come "internet ready" I would suggest you install a Cat6 cable as well at each TV location -should you ever switch TV providers or Cut the cord so to speak.

D* Service will only require one rg6 and that will carry your internet traffic (so you will not need a cat6 connection) for the internet to reach your D*'s HDDVR's.

s1njin
04-05-2012, 07:24 AM
you will only need one RG6 (be sure the contractor) installs Solid Copper core Rg6 , D* will install a single wire system on All new installs so you will only need one RG6 at all TV locations these should all be home runs to a central location.

Side note- Most New TV's Come "internet ready" I would suggest you install a Cat6 cable as well at each TV location -should you ever switch TV providers or Cut the cord so to speak.

D* Service will only require one rg6 and that will carry your internet traffic (so you will not need a cat6 connection) for the internet to reach your D*'s HDDVR's.

My structured wiring package includes 5 network or phone lines and 5 RG6 cable lines. All home run into some box in the basement (I haven't seen the box). I'm having a network/internet jack installed everywhere I'm getting a cable jack. So for the main TV room where the DVR would be located, it will be 1 and 1 (internet and cable).

Sounds like I'm in good shape?

WestDC
04-05-2012, 08:15 AM
My structured wiring package includes 5 network or phone lines and 5 RG6 cable lines. All home run into some box in the basement (I haven't seen the box). I'm having a network/internet jack installed everywhere I'm getting a cable jack. So for the main TV room where the DVR would be located, it will be 1 and 1 (internet and cable).

Sounds like I'm in good shape?

Yes,you will be ready for today (tech wise) but as always the "future is uncertain and the end is always near". :)

Side note-- Your builder is installing a "network Box" inside your home. Make sure He installs a DUAL RG6 from the Network Box to the Outside of your home where the "cable Tv" would enter. This will allow the cable company to feed/ connect your cable modem inside your network box, The extra RG6 will allow D* to connect the Dish Feed into your inside network box. ( THEY CAN NOT SHARE THE SAME CABLE)

Doing that ahead of time will save you a lot trouble after home construction is complete.

s1njin
04-09-2012, 06:24 AM
Yes,you will be ready for today (tech wise) but as always the "future is uncertain and the end is always near". :)

Side note-- Your builder is installing a "network Box" inside your home. Make sure He installs a DUAL RG6 from the Network Box to the Outside of your home where the "cable Tv" would enter. This will allow the cable company to feed/ connect your cable modem inside your network box, The extra RG6 will allow D* to connect the Dish Feed into your inside network box. ( THEY CAN NOT SHARE THE SAME CABLE)

Doing that ahead of time will save you a lot trouble after home construction is complete.

I was going to have Cablevision take its run from the side of the house into the basement and connect the cable modem outside the network box. From there I was going to jack the network and phone INTO the network box - with the cable modem mounted outside of the network box. For DirecTV, I was going to have the installer run the line right into the box, and hop onto the RG6 hub or whatever I'm getting inside that box.

Would this not work? I hesitate to ask for change orders at this time b/c they all involve a obscene amount of money ...

Thanks much.