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3D TV Set Best Buy

Splinter09
07-07-2010, 06:17 AM
I'm looking to replace my 42 inch Samsung LCD TV with a new 3D TV set and I would like some help from you guys.

Which brand is making the best 3D TV set right now and which offer the best value for money? Even further, is it the right time to buy a 3D HDTV or should I wait an year or so to let the tech evolve even more?

BeeF
07-07-2010, 06:53 AM
I personally would wait considering the content for 3D is quite sparse. I personally am not a fan of 3D, but if I was I would wait to upgrade. However, Panasonic IMO is making the best 3DTVs, because they easily make some of the best plasmas it almost immediately transfers over into the best 3DTVs.

TwoPlusTwo
07-07-2010, 06:58 AM
I say go ahead and get a Panasonic VT series plasma. Even though there's not a lot of 3D content yet (though it's coming), the VT series is an absolutely superb HDTV in addition to being a fantastic 3DTV. :thumbsup:

I wouldn't go to Best Buy though; I'd save some major cash by calling Chris at Cleveland Plasma. :)

I have a VT25 and can vouch for the set being great...

1happyguy
07-07-2010, 08:33 AM
I say go ahead and get a Panasonic VT series plasma. Even though there's not a lot of 3D content yet (though it's coming), the VT series is an absolutely superb HDTV in addition to being a fantastic 3DTV. :thumbsup:

I wouldn't go to Best Buy though; I'd save some major cash by calling Chris at Cleveland Plasma. :)

I have a VT25 and can vouch for the set being great...

VT series Panny BEST tv on the market!! Stay away from Best Buy!! They have very little knowledge on the products they sell!! IT seems everyone is happy with Cleveland Plasma!!

dsskid
07-07-2010, 08:37 AM
I agree with BeeF, and suggest waiting. The format will have settled, changes implemented, and pricing will come down.

Cle. Plasma
07-07-2010, 09:28 AM
Actually if one signs up with Directv, they have 3 channels that have 3D content on all day, 24-7. Even commercials ;)

Panasonic TC-xxPVT25 is the best 3D tv so far this year.....

Loves2Watch
07-07-2010, 09:32 AM
Actually if one signs up with Directv, they have 3 channels that have 3D content on all day, 24-7. Even commercials ;)

Panasonic TC-xxPVT25 is the best 3D tv so far this year.....

Have you seen those channels Chris and if so how do they look?

dsskid
07-07-2010, 09:37 AM
Actually if one signs up with Directv, they have 3 channels that have 3D content on all day, 24-7. Even commercials ;)

Panasonic TC-xxPVT25 is the best 3D tv so far this year.....
I didn't know there were that much programming and commercials shot in 3D yet. Is there a 2D - 3D conversion tool that they are utilizing, or is the content being supplied to them?

TwoPlusTwo
07-07-2010, 11:01 AM
I agree with BeeF, and suggest waiting. The format will have settled, changes implemented, and pricing will come down.

I'm gonna be a rouge here and offer an opposing opinion.

Things get better. Every year. Each year. Year after year. And so on...

You earned all that hard-earned money that you saved up. If you wanna reward yourself now, then go ahead and do so. :)

The 2011 models will be more elite than the the 2010 models, but the 2012 models will be better than that. I bet the 2015 models will be the bee's knees. :lol:

The fact of the matter is that the VT25 rocks. It rocks hard. Although I admit that I've never seen a KURO, I will say that the VT25 is the best damned set I've ever seen, period. Oh...and the 3D is mind-melting fantastic. :yippee:

As a VT25 owner, I can tell you that the VT25 is basically the shit (pardon my French).

You saved up your cash...if you wanna get a great set now, go ahead and spring for a VT25. It's a fantastic set that you will truly enjoy...it's freakin' fantastic IMO.

If you want one, call up Chris at Cleveland Plasma and get yourself a VT25. You will thank yourself for such a decision. ;)

Enjoy yourself now. It's your money and you earned it. The VT25 is a huge dose of "mega-awesome," and you will love it.

My :2cents...

bicker
07-07-2010, 11:11 AM
Most balanced sources I've seen consider the Panasonic VT25 to be the best in terms of picture quality, and the Samsung PN*C8000 to be the best value.

HiDefRev
07-07-2010, 12:09 PM
The Panasonic VT25 series is being hailed as not only the best 3D HDTV being manufactured today, but the best 2D HDTV as well. I wouldn't hesitate a minute to purchase one. And, yes, the 2011 models will no doubt be better, and the 2012 models even better than that. But this is true with most any HDTV. If you continue to wait for something better to come along, you'll do nothing but wait all of your life and never get to enjoy what's available now. I certainly made the plunge ( yes, at ClevelandPlasma.com ), and am enjoying every minute of it !! :thumbsup:

dsskid
07-07-2010, 12:15 PM
I was referring to the 3D portion of the display. You have to believe that there will be more standardization then there currently is, and substantially more improvement outside the first release. It's not like you'll be replacing a $200 BD player, we're talking about a $1500 + display.

TwoPlusTwo
07-07-2010, 12:24 PM
I was referring to the 3D portion of the display.

Maybe I'm not aware of some kinda "secret technology" or something, but I've been to see 3D movies in theaters, and the VT25's 3D appears theater-quality to me...

1happyguy
07-07-2010, 12:42 PM
It is true that technology will ALWAYS get better! But, from all indications are that the VT series from Panny is A W E S O M E!!

dsskid
07-07-2010, 12:44 PM
Maybe I'm not aware of some kinda "secret technology" or something, but I've been to see 3D movies in theaters, and the VT25's 3D appears theater-quality to me...
Secret technology? Who said anything about secret technology?

At the very least there will be standardization of the glasses.
What about the decreased light output when using the glasses? Don't you think that there will be some modification to compensate for this?

Right now you don't get 1080P in each eye, but rather what 540P x 2 for a combined 1080P. Don't you think they are going to modify it to bring you 1080P each eye so there is no resolution loss?

Just as BD went through a series of profile changes, I anticipate 3D to go through the same. And along the way, the prices will drop. I can remember buying a Panasonic profile 1.0 BD player and within a year there was 1.1 and then 2.0, and the price went from $400-$600 to $200.

It's not to say that you won't still be able to enjoy your current display, you're just paying a premium for it, and the advancements overcoming whatever other shortcomings get uncovered, will come quickly.

The poster asked the question:
Even further, is it the right time to buy a 3D HDTV or should I wait an year or so to let the tech evolve even more?

And I was giving him my opinion. Not meant to make light of the VT25's capability.

Loves2Watch
07-07-2010, 12:51 PM
Secret technology? Who said anything about secret technology?

At the very least there will be standardization of the glasses.
What about the decreased lightout put when using the glasses? Don't you think that there will be some modification to compensate for this?

Right now you don't get 1080P in each eye, but rather what 540P x 2 for a combined 1080P. Don't you think they are going to modify it to bring you 1080P each eye so there is no resolution loss?

Just as BD went through a series of profile changes, I anticipate 3D to go through the same. And along the way, the prices will drop. I can remember buying a Panasonic profile 1.0 BD player and within a year there was 1.1 and then 2.0, and the price went from $400-$600 to $200.

It's not to say that you won't still be able to enjoy your current display, you're just paying a premium for it, and the advancements overcoming whatever other shortcomings get uncovered, will come quickly.

Maybe there are no sources but the TV does have the capability of 1080p for each eye.

BeeF
07-07-2010, 12:51 PM
Secret technology? Who said anything about secret technology?

At the very least there will be standardization of the glasses.
What about the decreased lightout put when using the glasses? Don't you think that there will be some modification to compensate for this?

Right now you don't get 1080P in each eye, but rather what 540P x 2 for a combined 1080P. Don't you think they are going to modify it to bring you 1080P each eye so there is no resolution loss?

Just as BD went through a series of profile changes, I anticipate 3D to go through the same. And along the way, the prices will drop. I can remember buying a Panasonic profile 1.0 BD player and within a year there was 1.1 and then 2.0, and the price went from $400-$600 to $200.

It's not to say that you won't still be able to enjoy your current display, you're just paying a premium for it, and the advancements overcoming whatever other shortcomings get uncovered, will come quickly.

I thought through the use of blu-ray discs you could have a 1080p signal being sent to each eye. There is definitely plenty of room on BD for all that information.

dsskid
07-07-2010, 01:12 PM
Maybe there are no sources but the TV does have the capability of 1080p for each eye.
I think I might be mistaken now that I reviewed the comments. It was referring to broadcast and not BD.

http://www.highdefforum.com/1051145-post54.html

PFC5
07-07-2010, 05:23 PM
Secret technology? Who said anything about secret technology?

At the very least there will be standardization of the glasses.
What about the decreased light output when using the glasses? Don't you think that there will be some modification to compensate for this?

Right now you don't get 1080P in each eye, but rather what 540P x 2 for a combined 1080P. Don't you think they are going to modify it to bring you 1080P each eye so there is no resolution loss?

Just as BD went through a series of profile changes, I anticipate 3D to go through the same. And along the way, the prices will drop. I can remember buying a Panasonic profile 1.0 BD player and within a year there was 1.1 and then 2.0, and the price went from $400-$600 to $200.

It's not to say that you won't still be able to enjoy your current display, you're just paying a premium for it, and the advancements overcoming whatever other shortcomings get uncovered, will come quickly.

The poster asked the question:


And I was giving him my opinion. Not meant to make light of the VT25's capability.

As others have said you DO get 1080p in each eye with a 3D BD player as the source.

I agree that prices for 3DTVs will be lower next year most likely and be offered with lower end models each year it is out and possibly most all HDTVs will have this ability in around 5 years. They will likely improve things as well so I think if you have a display you are happy with now (like I am), waiting until next year will get you a better and cheaper 3DTV.

I also understand how like computers in the 90s, they got better, faster and cheaper, but I always told people that sooner or later you have to jump in to actually enjoy this. But 3DTVs are very new now so I am personally waiting until 2011 myself to consider 3DTV. I don't want to, but would likely kick myself for not waiting until the second year for the additional refinements and lower prices.

dsskid
07-07-2010, 05:28 PM
As others have said you DO get 1080p in each eye with a 3D BD player as the source.


I think I might be mistaken now that I reviewed the comments. It was referring to broadcast and not BD.

http://www.highdefforum.com/1051145-post54.html

Yes, I acknowledged my error in the post above yours, I was thinking of broadcast material, and it's bandwidth limitations.

I'll be waiting until 2011 also.

PFC5
07-07-2010, 05:35 PM
Saw that after I posted. I also hope that Panasonic will add 2D>3D conversion in there 2011 models as a feature that would be nice to have. I know the Samsung 3DTV models have that now, but I prefer the Panasonic plasmas, and they also have upgraded phosphors that have all 3 primary colors decaying at the same speed which AFAIK, the Samsung plasmas don't have.

And the changing black issue is expected to be eliminated and blacks are expected to be even better than KURO blacks according to D-Nice as the added reason I am telling myself to wait until 2011. It is hard to wait though, but luckily I have a display I am very happy with outside of wanting to increase size.

dsskid
07-07-2010, 09:05 PM
Saw that after I posted. I also hope that Panasonic will add 2D>3D conversion in there 2011 models as a feature that would be nice to have. I know the Samsung 3DTV models have that now, but I prefer the Panasonic plasmas, and they also have upgraded phosphors that have all 3 primary colors decaying at the same speed which AFAIK, the Samsung plasmas don't have.

And the changing black issue is expected to be eliminated and blacks are expected to be even better than KURO blacks according to D-Nice as the added reason I am telling myself to wait until 2011. It is hard to wait though, but luckily I have a display I am very happy with outside of wanting to increase size.

I hope that is all true as it will be a very big year for plasma. Many are waiting for the successor.

bicker
07-08-2010, 11:38 AM
From what I've seen so far (just one movie), the 3D on these plasma sets (I have a Samsung PN58C8000) is much better than "theater-quality". I find the active technology far superior to the passive technology theaters have been offering.

TwoPlusTwo
07-08-2010, 11:56 AM
From what I've seen so far (just one movie), the 3D on these plasma sets (I have a Samsung PN58C8000) is much better than "theater-quality". I find the active technology far superior to the passive technology theaters have been offering.

+1 on 3D at home with a plasma.

I much prefer watching 3D on my VT25 than in a movie theater, for various reasons...