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retorq
08-24-2005, 09:55 PM
Streaming High Def . . .

http://www.nubatv.com/

The Pink Floyd stuff looks to be blocky but I have a bad connection here, might be different elsewhere. :thumbsup:

retorq
08-24-2005, 10:23 PM
Yeah forget it, horribly blocky. Looks like legos on my 17 inch monitor, I don't want to waste me time on the 52inch big screen. :(

NubaTV
08-25-2005, 12:03 AM
Hi retorq,

I'll be glad to help you fix the problem you're having with our service.

It sounds like you're having some difficulties connecting to our server. Do you have Norton enabled? If yes, then disable it for the test. I'll also need to know the connection speed that you get. Can you please go to the registration page of nubatv.com and run the speedtest?

Thank you.


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

Mrkazador
08-25-2005, 03:17 AM
I registered and installed the software and when i click to watch a trailer the nuba software stays blank. I have installed the codec and it does nothing for minutes......I have a 4mbps connection so i dont know whats wrong.

NubaTV
08-25-2005, 08:48 AM
Mrkazador, do you have Norton enabled? Are you on Comcast? Can you go back to the registration page and run a speed test please?



Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

retorq
08-25-2005, 09:02 AM
I get 1.9 Mbps connection and which Norton product are you referring too?? I have Anti-Virus enabled, I manage my own hardware based firewall. I don't htink I'm having issues connection as I can see the whole video, infact I watched the whole 23 minute Pink Floyd clip. :D

NubaTV
08-25-2005, 09:18 AM
Hi retorq,

You seemed to have some problems watching our clips this is why I mentioned the common cause (Norton).
How was your experience with NubaTV in terms of image and sound quality?


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

retorq
08-25-2005, 09:34 AM
I see it's using 2 ports, 9876 and 9877, I'll open those and test it again this afternoon when I get home. I know for a fact those aren't being forwarded thru my firewall. I'll try it and let you know.

retorq
08-25-2005, 09:35 AM
Might be missing the codecs, mine did the same thing the first time and prompted me to install a codec the second time.

I registered and installed the software and when i click to watch a trailer the nuba software stays blank. I have installed the codec and it does nothing for minutes......I have a 4mbps connection so i dont know whats wrong.

NubaTV
08-25-2005, 09:40 AM
The codec is available under the "Downloads" section of your member account.


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

retorq
08-25-2005, 12:34 PM
Do you have any high def porn I could take in?? :D

NubaTV
08-25-2005, 01:02 PM
haha. I'm afraid not. Is it sad?


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

Mrkazador
08-25-2005, 01:49 PM
Did the speed test and i got 3.91mbps and yes i am on comcast. On newsgroups i can max out my connection at 545KB/S. I did install the codec and even restarted my pc. Reinstall the nuba software and still the same problem. Its like the software is freezing, it does nothing. I do not have any anti-virus or firewall/router installed. Does this take a while to buffer/load?

HDTV_NZ
08-25-2005, 02:54 PM
I'm far away in NZ, and with only a 1mbps connection, I don't get a very good picture. It's a shame you can't just download the videos to your hard drive and then play them back... but then again, I guess that defeats the purpose of NubaTV. :(

retorq
08-25-2005, 03:53 PM
OK I opened the two ports, same blockiness. Not that I thought that would change anything. You aren't controlling the video bitrate based on the speed of the connection in the user preferences are you??

Mrkazador
08-25-2005, 04:02 PM
I right click on nuba tv window and went to error report....
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3023/untitled3ev.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled3ev.jpg)
I have reinstalled wmp10 and it doesnt help.

NubaTV
08-25-2005, 06:31 PM
Mrkazador: Yes, we have an issue with Comcast and we're trying to solve it.

HDTV_NZ: No full download here but you can watch the clip almost right away.

retorq: Yes, we are controlling the birate from the user's profile. Have you tried different settings?

Thank you all for trying our product. Remember, it's a beta product.



Vincent Hirth
Co-Funder

retorq
08-25-2005, 06:54 PM
No I haven't tried bumping the settings but now that I know I'll try the 2MB setting. I'm at 1.9 on a good day so maybe it'll work. I'll let you know later.

Mrkazador
08-25-2005, 07:34 PM
Hope to see you guys fix that problem with comcast. I would like to see the quality of this. Any way to take a screenshot? Good luck!

retorq
08-25-2005, 07:43 PM
OK at the 2MB setting the blocking up close is considerably better, from across the room on my 17 inch Dell flat tube monitor it's acceptable, I'll try it on my 27 inch flat tube SD TV and then my 52 Sony HDTV. :D

I noticed the guys at Satalliteguys were all posting their computer specs, here are mine currently:

Dell Optiplex GX260 Small Form Factor
Intel P4 2.53 Ghz CPU
1 GB DDR RAM
7200 RPM UDMA-100 Seagate ST320011 20GB HDD
NVideo GForce FX 5200 Dual DVI/Monitor card

I also have a 32MB ATI RADEON 7500 that I use when it's hooked up to the bedroom TV. :D

hawaj
08-25-2005, 08:51 PM
I switched Kerio fw off, instaled Wmv codec and trying to open it from Opera, IE (it says "unknown type of dokument), etc. Nothing worked. Speed is at 2mbps and I definitely dont want to deal (even understand) with any ports or anything else! I finally want to be an user not IT specialist!! :mad:
And definitelly I dont want to switch off antivirus - I am not crazy!!! :mad:
Forget it for now.

Ryan48
08-25-2005, 09:22 PM
sweet works great for me, video little blurry but sound was awsome :D
Im also on a 15/2 mbit connection :cool:

NubaTV
08-26-2005, 12:12 AM
hawaj: First, we're running in beta here. The purpose is to evaluate our product in different environment before we get ready to launch it. So please, don't be frustracted and just report the problem that you're having. We'll fix it eventually. Now, the installation of our software can be incomplete sometimes. Having a highly secure PC could be an issue too. Please PM and I'll chat with you in order to fix those issues.

Ryan48: Thanks for your comment. Have you watched the Test clip yet? It's under the main page of your member's account.

To all: If you had problems installing our player and found the way to fix them, please let me know. It could help us but also others. Thank you very much.


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

retorq
08-26-2005, 09:21 AM
Ya know, I was thinking about that comcast problem, one of the local ISPs here (POS Cable Company) block certain ports at the routers from getting to the customers, maybe Comcast is blocking the default ports before they reach their customers?? Has anyone tried changing them to ports that they know work and trying it??

Ryan48
08-26-2005, 12:19 PM
Yes I just watched the test clip and looked pretty good :)

Mrkazador
08-26-2005, 02:37 PM
Ya know, I was thinking about that comcast problem, one of the local ISPs here (POS Cable Company) block certain ports at the routers from getting to the customers, maybe Comcast is blocking the default ports before they reach their customers?? Has anyone tried changing them to ports that they know work and trying it??

I tried putting in random numbers like 1234, 12345 and it still doesnt work.

NubaTV
08-26-2005, 03:57 PM
Thanks Mrkazador for trying. Could it be something related to our IP(66.227.7.225)? Maybe the router is blocking it somewhere, or a t least trying to..


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

Mrkazador
08-26-2005, 08:28 PM
I dont know much about IP/routers or anything related.

casper77
08-26-2005, 08:50 PM
no to take anything away from nubaTV but the content is not HDTV quality, is good quality but not HD, sorry. Resolution not near 720p.

NubaTV
08-26-2005, 09:55 PM
We're getting there, casper77... At the moment we're just testing our new streaming technology. As you noticed, the quality is great but it'll be even better soon. Stay tuned.

Thank you.


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

oblioman
08-27-2005, 04:55 PM
Thanks for the sight Nuba - My connection speed is 1.2 mbs(bellsouth dsl) running on a 2500 barton with an ATI 9600xt vid card - no choppiness - no pixelation,,,it runs fine on my end. Quality was okay on the video side - audio was (is) great. The video is suffering a bit from compression. It looks better than sd but needs some work to be considered HD. I do want to add that at the same time I was streaming Pink Floyd from your site my wife was on her computer listening to a radio station,,and surfing the net. Since we are networked I know she was robbing some of my bandwidth - but it had no effect on your stream.

NubaTV
08-27-2005, 06:55 PM
Thanks for the feedback oblioman! Great having you as a member.

Regarding the image quality, it is due to the source file. Those trailers and other clips that you can find on NubaTV were free and we had the right to broadcast them, but the quality were not really impressive.

Have you tried the Test clip? It's available at your members account (main page).

Also, we're now working on different compression tests here and the results are rather impressive. You'll see...


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

oblioman
08-29-2005, 05:53 PM
I just played your test clip and I am impressed. As I mentioned, I'm only running a 1.5mbs dsl (networked in the house) and at the same time I played your test stream, I had my favorite radio station streaming (rock 103 - memphis) and the wife was downloading her school stuff - everything worked fine.

NubaTV
08-29-2005, 09:56 PM
oblioman: Can you please edit your profile and select the "DSL Pro" connection speed. I'm curious to see how the player will handle it. The picture should be better too.

Thanks.

tvtalkshows
09-01-2005, 01:29 AM
this is good stuff! as everyone else is saying, the video quality is ok, but the sound is great! :D I'm watching on my 17" TFT and i the video is perfectly watchable. It doesn't come close to HD quality but hopefully that will improve - why the descision to use wmv?

i'm curious about the upload bandwidth being used... what's the player sending out? and is there any way to throttle it?

mark.

Blue_Tech
09-01-2005, 03:08 AM
Thats pretty cool...

Dell Optiplex P4 @ 2.8GHz, MT disabled
504MB RAM
Onboard video with Intel 910GL Express Chipset
17" LCD (slow response times though)

15Mbps LAN connection

NubaTV speed test reports 10.2Mbps

The test clip streamed perfectly, absolutely no breakup/halting. The video quality was not what I expected, although my LCD's performance could be hurting that. A bit fuzzy, and minor pixelation when viewed up close. What resolution/framerate is that supposed to be?

The BaseJumping clip was pretty cool. Definately SD quality there. Very nice for what it is. Keep up the good work!

NubaTV
09-07-2005, 09:27 PM
Hello everyone,

Just a few words to tell you that we have a new version available with that freezing screen fixed. Please go to your account, it's under "Downloads".

Also, we succeeded in streaming a 1280x720 file with a Cable connection. DSL Pro users (1.5Mb connection minimum) may enjoy it too. Files will be uploaded in a few hours.

For those who want to help us further, our player is now listed on Download.com but lacks reviews

More exciting news shortly. We are now in contact with almost ALL the major TV stations... stay tuned.


Thanks again guys for your help and participation.


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

PS: Thanks 'Blue Tech' for testing our product. As you just read we keep on improving the quality... Great having you as a member!

Brother John
09-07-2005, 10:38 PM
Just wanted to say that I "discovered" your site today and gave it a whirl. I absolutely LOVED the Pink Floyd concert, the image quality was not all that bad but the sound quality was exceptional. What a treat. Now... I'm excited by this.

As far a technological problems, after I viewed my first video, I noticed that I could no longer get the Nuba Player to function. But if I did an End Task on the Nuba Player, the next time I requested a video... it loaded right up and played!

Not the best work-a-round I know, but hey... not too bad either.

I enjoyed the Serenity Trailer and I plan to try out all of the rest. This looks like a GREAT idea and I'm psyched! :bowdown:

Brother John
jawaldron@comcast.net
Lansdowne, PA
USA

Brother John
09-07-2005, 10:53 PM
Woah! Wow! The Base Jumping video gave me vertigo! Whoo Boy!!! Talking about your X-treme sports! That back-flip sure looked like it was getting pretty close to the cliff rocks on the way down! :yippee: Absolutely amazing!

Again, (using Comcast.Net), I find that once I view a video, I can't close the Nuba Stream Player. Not only can't I close it, but it refuses to work when I select a video to watch. The window is quite click-able but NOT close-able or use-able. I have to EndTask it and then, when it is needed, it comes right back up again and works flawlessly.

This is going to be GREAT! Happy De-Bugging till then! :busy:

Brother John
Lansdowne, PA
USA
jawaldron@comcast.net

NubaTV
09-07-2005, 10:54 PM
Thanks Brother John!

What version of the player did you download? We have just upgraded to the 2.4 version which has the "freezing" bug fixed. Please go to the Downloads section of your NubaTV account to download it.

Also, the quality of the Pink Floyd's file wasn't very good to begin with, therefore we couldn't offer an impressive version of it. But stay tuned as we're about to broadcast an astonishing quality picture. It's a matter of hours ;)

Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

Brother John
09-07-2005, 11:34 PM
Thanks Brother John!Oh you are quite welcome! I can already see that this is going to be great! I know you are working on getting the advertising folks interested so will this always be an advertisement based free service? Will you be offering a service for pay without advertisements? Will you be doing some kind of "premium" thing? What's the long term plan if I may ask?

What version of the player did you download? We have just upgraded to the 2.4 version which has the "freezing" bug fixed. Please go to the Downloads section of your NubaTV account to download it.Hmmm. I selected the Help/About thing but it didn't say what version I currently had. So... I'll just download the latest and that will be that! I'll let you know if anything changes.

I did note that if I closed the NubaStream Player down between video's, most would load without having to do an EndTask. But after watching three or four of the trailers, the last time, I DID have to EndTask the player.

But! Never fear! I'll download the latest and greatest and see what happens!

Also, the quality of the Pink Floyd's file wasn't very good to begin with, therefore we couldn't offer an impressive version of it. But stay tuned as we're about to broadcast an astonishing quality picture. It's a matter of hours ;)Well! I may have to turn in for the night before you do that, but I'll be back tomorrow to check on things. (I'm Senior Software Developer for my company so I'll be more than willing to give you all the feedback you may want -- providing you put some fresh stuff out there to watch! Yeah... I'm addicted already ;) ).

Brother John
Lansdowne, Pennsylvania
USA
Brother John (eMail) (jawaldron@comcast.net)

Brother John
09-07-2005, 11:56 PM
What version...?Okay... I just upgraded to the latest and greatest and watched the Star Wars Trailer. When it was done, I was still unable to close the NubaStream Player window. Clicked on the [X] many times but nothing would happen. So I did an EndTask as before and the player worked fine upon my next request. (But I've run out of material to watch... hooked now... more? :) )

Brother John
Lansdowne, Pennsylvania
USA
That Comcast.net (http://www.comcast.net) guy!
Brother John (eMail) (jawaldron@comcast.net)

NubaTV
09-08-2005, 10:53 AM
Brother John,
NubaTV will be a pay-per-view based player with three tiers (Free, Gold, and Platinum level content). Monthly and annual memberships will be available through the website.
Using information about our members, we will have member specific advertising, that is if the advertiser's product doesn't apply to you, you're not going to see the ad. This is a much less obtrusive form of advertising and will cut back on your trips to the loo.
Matt Brown

Brother John
09-08-2005, 02:39 PM
NubaTV will be a pay-per-view based player with three tiers (Free...Understand the PPV concept but what exactly is a FREE Level PPV?

Pay-Per-View Free :confused: Gold PlatinumAlso do you have any early ideas on prices?

And what is the difference between Pay-Per-View and (monthly/annual membership)? Is advertisement based the free option? (Like regular TV but as you say... honed to the viewer)?

Brother John
Lansdowne, Pennsylvania
USA
Brother John (jawaldron@comcast.net) (eMail)

NubaTV
09-08-2005, 03:10 PM
Ok, it's not the PPV concept as we all know it. Let's start again.

We will offer 2 types of memberships:


1. Free Membership:

You can watch programs but not Movies, TV series or any other stuff that we are broacasting under a revenue sharing plan (I think that makes sense). Our own costs will be covered by limited advertising spots.


2. Paid Memberships.

We are thinking about 2 levels (Gold and Platinum) - monthly or yearly contract. Each level will have a limited amount of TV Series episodes, Movies, etc.. that could be viewed per month.

We cannot publish rates at this time but they will be very affordable. Early members will all get a discount on the first year ;)


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

Brother John
09-08-2005, 06:47 PM
Ok, it's not the PPV concept as we all know it.Thank you! Now THAT was very clear. I must say I think you have a great idea going on here and if your prices end up truly "reasonable" you will have something extraordinarily HOT! :yippee:Also, the quality of the Pink Floyd's file wasn't very good to begin with, therefore we couldn't offer an impressive version of it. But stay tuned as we're about to broadcast an astonishing quality picture. It's a matter of hours...Just wondered what became of this. I'm ready for that "astonishing" quality picture you were describing earlier!

Brother John
Lansdowne, Pennsylvania
USA
Brother John (jawaldron@comcast.net) (eMail)

NubaTV
09-08-2005, 07:18 PM
Ok people, it's time for another test. Cable users first, DSL Pro users will be next.

Just logon to your account and you should see the details on what to do.

Awaiting for your comments... :)


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

Brother John
09-08-2005, 09:55 PM
Ok people, it's time for another test. Cable users first, DSL Pro users will be next.Well... I'm a Comcast Highspeed Cable User so I guess I'll give it a whirl first. Before I start, I'll ensure I have the latest and greatest. (By the way... other then downloading a new player each time... or better yet trying to remember which version I'm running, is there any way to get the player itself to tell me what version I have? The usual help/about scenario doesn't give any info).

Awaiting for your comments... :)
Vincent Hirth
Co-FounderOkay... I tested my bandwidth tonight and it looks like I need to run at the 2.5Mbps connection speed. So I did that and let me tell you the view was terrific! Now we're getting into some nice quality images! Downright beautiful I'd say.

But I did experience problems. At first the streaming was very nice into the first 30 seconds. Then the player just stopped. It rested. Then kicked back in again about 10 seconds later.

Then it played fairly well for a period of time but I noted some rather splotchy pixelation (largish pixels in groups) that would kind of float over the image here and there.

When the splotchy stuff would settle down you'd have a really nice image. The underwater beauty and colors were very sharp and dazzling. Such blues, oranges, reds! Nice! But the blotchy patches would pass through the image from time to time almost like what happens sometimes when viewing a satelite image beamed from across the planet.

And it would hitch from time to time. Small pauses.

Sometimes I'd watch the scene in Full Screen mode for one full pass and then later view it in the default size but the issues described above remained the same.

Hope this helps!:busy:

NubaTV
09-09-2005, 12:20 PM
from Greg, one of our greatest members:

------------------------------------------------

Hi Vincent,

I just came from your site and discovered a simple but important item that may help others see your streaming clips a lot better.
First, the Coral Reef clip was always jerky and would freeze a little. I downloaded it months ago and it was not smooth all the way through.

The Pink Floyd clip and all the rest were slightly out of focus as well…until I noticed that the player defaults (at least on my computer) to full screen.

I right clicked on the video and choose 100% and it was then hi-def quality, plus, the full 16:9 screen was visible, they all were! The clip starts in full screen but the display is covering up the sides, making it look like a 4:3 display, but it’s not. It’s full screen 16:9 but with a 4:3 overlay. You can see what I mean if you start the Star Wars clip and then drag the lower right corner to stretch it out sideways all the way across computer monitor.


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Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

Brother John
09-09-2005, 05:02 PM
...the Coral Reef clip was always jerky and would freeze a little. I downloaded it months ago and it was not smooth all the way through.You know... after I read this I rewatched the video and noted that the splotchy spots and jerky behaviour always occur during the exact same segments... so they probably are in the actual video material. Perhaps this makes it questionable as a demonstration video (at least without a specific disclaimer).

...I right clicked on the video and choose 100% and it was then hi-def quality, plus, the full 16:9 screen was visible...Good points... I just automatically did that but others may not have thought of it. I did say that the quality of the video (overall) was very good.

oblioman
09-09-2005, 05:10 PM
I updated to the 1.5 pro version and watched everything on your site - the base jumping was a jaw dropper. I noticed slight hesitation on the "Ice Age 2" trailer and also on the Star Wars trailer. The hesitation would be on my end,,dsl,,old barton 2500 and an ancient 9600xt vid card. Sound is immense,,herc 7.1 surround.

raymaher
09-10-2005, 01:31 PM
I have installed the player and codecs great sound but no picture.

Any suggestions.

Ray Maher

NubaTV
09-10-2005, 02:10 PM
Brother John: We will upload more HD clips today. Something went wrong during the S-HD converting process, although it worked fine at my end...

Oblioman: Ice Age 2 was conterted from a MOV file and I think we should redo it.

Ray: Try and install the XP Codec Pack (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/XP_Codec_Pack.htm) or the K-Lite Codec Pack 2.53 (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_Lite_Codec_Pack.htm).


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

raymaher
09-10-2005, 02:29 PM
Brother John: We will upload more HD clips today. Something went wrong during the S-HD converting process, although it worked fine at my end...

Oblioman: Ice Age 2 was conterted from a MOV file and I think we should redo it.

Ray: Try and install the XP Codec Pack (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/XP_Codec_Pack.htm) or the K-Lite Codec Pack 2.53 (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_Lite_Codec_Pack.htm).


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

Will do,

Thanks Vincent

raymaher
09-10-2005, 04:56 PM
Brother John: We will upload more HD clips today. Something went wrong during the S-HD converting process, although it worked fine at my end...

Oblioman: Ice Age 2 was conterted from a MOV file and I think we should redo it.

Ray: Try and install the XP Codec Pack (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/XP_Codec_Pack.htm) or the K-Lite Codec Pack 2.53 (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_Lite_Codec_Pack.htm).


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

Vincent.,

The only trouble is the codecs only work with media player classic.

Ray Maher.

NubaTV
09-10-2005, 05:03 PM
Ray,

Nuba Player is actually using the media player classic. Do you have it installed?


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

raymaher
09-11-2005, 01:17 AM
Yes I do but the player that appears doesn't look like the classic one.

Ray Maher

raymaher
09-11-2005, 03:13 AM
I have checked again and it is the classic player so I downloaded the
codecs but still no picture.

Ray Maher

Brother John
09-11-2005, 09:36 AM
Saturday, September 10th, 2005 @ 05:56 PM
Brother John: We will upload more HD clips today. Something went wrong during the S-HD converting process, although it worked fine at my end.
Vincent Hirth
Co-FounderI still don't see them yet (am I missing something? :o) Anyway... certainly looking forward to viewing more clips! Any chance we might get treated to another concert? Loved the Pink Floyd for example! :D

NubaTV
09-11-2005, 10:22 AM
Hello people,

Can anybody try the 2.5Mbps file again please? I made some adjustment.
This file is on the main page of your member's account.

Thanks.



Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

retorq
09-11-2005, 08:05 PM
The 2.5 files are pausing on my DSL.

Can you kill my retorq account and rename my retorq2001 to retorq?? My mail server caught the email as spam and I never saw the email, just that it was rejected. Also in fullscreen the volume and nav bars don't work. Not a huge deal, just some what annoying. :D

NubaTV
09-11-2005, 08:22 PM
You should be at least on a 2.5Mbps internet connection in order to watch that clip. What's your speed?

(Account changed to retorq2001).


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

Brother John
09-11-2005, 11:01 PM
Can anybody try the 2.5Mbps file again please? I made some adjustment.Well... at least to me the quality of the "good" parts "appeared" to be better. I'm ignoring pauses and strange pixellated visual transformations which remain in this clip.

You should be at least on a 2.5Mbps internet connection in order to watch that clip. What's your speed? Vincent Hirth - Co-FounderMy current bandwidth reading is: 2.74 Mbps on my Comcast.net cable connection. But it really seems to vary with each testing. Sometimes much greater but sometimes way down there. Is that typical with Comcast cable modem access?

Coral Reef 2.5Mbps
Possibly better quality but still pauses and is pixelated at consistent spots.

To The Limit 2.5Mbps
Wow! Now this is amazing! I started to get vertigo looking up at that cliff climber. The Ballerina footage was clear and beautiful (quite moving) then it was back to the cliff climber which was still quite good. This was by far the best image/sound experience yet until it got to the downhill snow skier. At that point it actually became unwatchable with heavy pausing and much pixelation. It looked like the snow skier suddenly paused and a bunch of cross country skiers emerged through his body. Most of the screen never did reorient after that and it got downright "muddy" and "weird" after that. It finally came back with some clear footage of a gymnist.

Step Into Liquid 2.5Mbps
Unfortunately this one was probably the worse view. Much pixelation and long pauses. Was barely watchable. I will try it again right now to see if it improves and to refresh my memory.

Okay... rewatched it and it was much better. STEP... fine INTO... fine LIQUID... pause then it was fine again for a while. Some pixelation and some frequent pauses. Nice quality though when it was good.

In all fairness... it certainly seems to me that my Comcast connection is anything but consistent. Until I ran your tests... I never knew that before. Again... is this typical of Comcast High Speed Cable?
I also note, when I look really close, that I can sometimes see Moray compression pattern artifacts. Like when looking up at the cliff climber and seeing them in the bright blue sky. Other spots too.

NubaTV
09-12-2005, 12:15 AM
Hi Brother John,

Very good post, as usual :) We do have an issue with Comcast. We don't know why but we found a way to solve the problem by just changing our IP address.

Anyway, next month if everything keeps on going well, we will launch NubaTV on a new network architecture with more servers and a better delivery speed.
I think it'll solve the problem you and some others are having with the streaming.

More S-HD files coming up soon, for DSL users this time :D

Stay tuned! Thank you.



Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

Brother John
09-12-2005, 01:14 PM
...We do have an issue with Comcast ... we found a way to solve the problem by just changing our IP address ... new network architecture ... I think it'll solve the problem you and some others are having with the streaming.Looking forward to that! As nice as this is, I wouldn't want to try watching a TV Show or movie with pauses and pixelation so yes... I hope the new architecture will resolve those issues.

Just for "grins" I thought I'd give the "Coral Reef" trailer another go when I noted that my bandwidth was vastly improved on this nice working-from-home monday. Not as much competition. I was able to run all three: 2.5Mbps, 3.2Mbps, and 4.0Mbps modes! :D The pausing issue was not as anoying today but the pixelation remained the same. But when the video was good, it was very good indeed. To be honest though... my eyes could not tell much difference from 2.5Mbps to 3.2Mbps to 4.0Mbps. I must not be a videophile. But then again maybe this is a good thing.

Brother John
09-18-2005, 10:03 PM
Well... I last posted on 09-12-2005 @ 02:14 PM and see things have gone stone quiet on this forum. I've been checking out the forum which seems somewhat more active (and a bit more technical). I was wondering what NubaTV is up to? Anything to update? Hows the technical work going?

NubaTV
09-18-2005, 10:15 PM
Hi everybody,

In case you wonder, like Brother John, what the heck is going on with NubaTV, here are what we are currently doing:

1. Re-designing the website
2. Working on the new version of the player
3. Adding contents (and kindly refusing some...)
4. Dealing with advertisers
5. Implementing and testing our new network architecture.

We want to officially launch our service in October (yes, this year) so we have to work like crazy :) In the meantime, the new website should be ready this week. Hope you'll like it.

Thank you so much for your interest in NubaTV.


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

Norvegia
09-23-2005, 08:02 PM
Hi there,

I'm experiencing exactly the same problems with the speed fluctuations that cause the stream to pause continously, and I'm not on a Comcast connection, so it isn't the fault of Comcast.

The screenshot below shows the mentioned fluctuation while streaming the video files (whichever it is):

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/387/bad6ru.jpg

And this one, shows a perfect server response with a constant speed while downloading the NubaTV Player from their own server:

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3729/good2df.jpg

So, whenever they fix the problem, if the streaming works like when downloading the player, I may consider being a gold member ;)

By the way, thanks NubaTV for bringing streaming HD to us :yippee:

NubaTV
09-23-2005, 11:20 PM
Please run our speed test at http://www.nubastream.com/speedtest/meter.php and tell me the result.

Regarding the streaming graph it is totally expected. No worries there. What could help in your case is turning the winXP firewall off as well as any other security software such as Norton. Run some tests under that “unsafe” environment and tell me again what the results are.

Thank you.


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

Norvegia
09-24-2005, 06:17 AM
Hi Vincent, I'll reply you here if you don't mind cause as others are experiencing something like this, it could be of interest.

Regarding the speed test, I get different results each time, sometimes 2.4, sometimes 1.8 and a few had matched my real speed showing 3 Mbps. Seeing the graph where the speed goes up and down continuously while streaming, could be "logical".

On the other hand, I can't turn WinXP firewall off cause I don't have it activated; and if I disable the Norton Antivirus software, I don't experience any change or benefit :confused:

Anyway, and if there is nothing more that can be done from my side, I'll be patient and hope that your new network architecture fixes this problem.

Thanks for replying.

NubaTV
09-24-2005, 08:34 AM
Well, I think the stability of the speed will come with our new network architecture :). In the meantime, edit your profile and set the streaming speed to DSL Pro.

Is it more stable?


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

Norvegia
09-24-2005, 09:05 AM
In the meantime, edit your profile and set the streaming speed to DSL Pro.

Is it more stable?
Done, but unfortunately nothing changes :rolleyes:

But don't worry, sure you do your best :bowdown: .... :p

raymaher
09-24-2005, 05:14 PM
I can watch Pink Floyd and trailers etc but the Coral Reef, To the Limit and Step into the liquid all freeze every few seconds.

I only have 948kbps download speed.

Is this the problem.

Ray Maher

Norvegia
09-24-2005, 05:23 PM
^ It could be that you're suffering some inestability as some of us are experiencing, but in your case, it's more likely to happen because your download speed is not the required (at least 2.5 Mbps).

raymaher
09-25-2005, 02:11 AM
Thats a shame cos 1kbps is the max I can get at the moment unless I go in for cable.
I am 3 k from the exchange.

Brother John
09-26-2005, 11:34 AM
In case you wonder, like Brother John, what the heck is going on with NubaTV, here are what we are currently doing:

Re-designing the website
Working on the new version of the player
Adding contents (and kindly refusing some...)
Dealing with advertisers
Implementing and testing our new network architecture.
I must admit to dropping out of the picture somewhat after the High Def Forum got hacked. Great to see they were able to restore lost comments :thumbsup: . Thanks for the update (NubaTV) and let me know if there's anything you'd like me to test!

NubaTV
10-05-2005, 02:19 PM
Oops, I missed some replied here. Sorry.

Norvegia: do you have winXP firewall and/or Norton enabled?

raymaher: Unfortunately, you have an intermediate connection. Better than regular DSL slower than DSL Pro. In the future we'll try and cover that gap ;)

Brother John: We have a lot going on at the moment. Getting the major networks and movie studios to send us content, developing the next version of our player as well as developing the LIVE feature. We'll call you as soon as we need beta testers ;) Your comments are always useful and interesting. Thank you.


Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder

Norvegia
10-05-2005, 03:00 PM
Norvegia: do you have winXP firewall and/or Norton enabled?
On the other hand, I can't turn WinXP firewall off cause I don't have it activated; and if I disable the Norton Antivirus software, I don't experience any change or benefit
I already replied to that question ;)

NubaTV
10-05-2005, 03:32 PM
ooh... my bad :( Sorry Norvegia. Please stay tuned until we get our new structure in place (this month). It'll probably cure the problem that you're having. Thanks.

Vincent Hirth
Co-Founder