Ncaa basketballlllll

Go Vols,,,,give UK the smack.

uk all the way!!!

LET'S GO 'NOVA!!!

LET'S GO 'NOVA!!!

LET'S GO 'NOVA!!!

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CUSE All the way

CUSE All the way

Syracuse looked freakin good in hammering North Carolina. I though UNC was overrated this year in the rankings but it was still a very impressive win for Syracuse.

If you guys have not got a chance yet to see John Wall play for Kentucky you are missing out on a treat. This guy looks better right now than Derrick Rose ever did at Memphis imo. The Wildcats have 2 big games coming up first against North Carolina 12/5 & then 4 days later verses UConn. I seen UNC get whipped by Syracuse so UK should get a win but I haven't seen UConn play yet.



raiderfan I also thought Villanova was great last night against Mississippi. I had Nova picked on my ESPN Streak for the Cash. They have a solid team who could go far I think. If UK would not have gotten Calipari I would have loved to get that Nova coach even though when asked he said he wasn't leaving Villanova I think the money would have persuaded him as UK could pay him way more than Villanova ever could. But oh well it all worked out for the best for both teams. I could see a Nova/UK finals happening.

Gotta admit,,Calipari has loaded UK with some real talent this year. Gonna be much sweeter when me Vol's out hustle them.

raiderfan I also thought Villanova was great last night against Mississippi. I had Nova picked on my ESPN Streak for the Cash. They have a solid team who could go far I think. If UK would not have gotten Calipari I would have loved to get that Nova coach even though when asked he said he wasn't leaving Villanova I think the money would have persuaded him as UK could pay him way more than Villanova ever could. But oh well it all worked out for the best for both teams. I could see a Nova/UK finals happening.


yeah I love Jay Wright. I thought for sure he'd leave when given the chance. However, a buddy of mine, a Villanova grad, says his wife has got him by the balls!!! She's from PA, was a Nova grad and cheerleader and wants to stay!!! I'm mostly with you though, if in time, the money is good, he'll have a decision to make eventually.

the only thing I'm always skeptical of with Nova, is that they are a guard heavy offense. They run 3 and sometimes 4 guards on the floor at all times. So if they aren't hitting from the outside or making their FT's, they're in deep shit!!!! And this seems to bite them in the ass come tourney time every year.

I hate Duke! I hate Duke!! I hate Duke!!!
I hate Duke bad enough over the miracle shot against UK years ago & because they play in the ACC. But Last night my ESPN Steak for the Cash was up to 7 wins in a row & I pick Duke to beat Wisconsin. Why did I pick Duke, because the Badgers had lost their 2 best players from last year's squad & hey Duke is Duke!...well Duke got smoked & was never really in the game even though they final was only a 4 point difference.
The Big 10 man handled the ACC this week other than Michigan St losing a close one to UNC at Chapel Hill.
But again...I hate DUKE!!!

I can't wait for the Tar Heels to come to Rupp this saturday as UK will blow them out of the stadium & back to north carolina.

I hate Duke! I hate Duke!! I hate Duke!!!
I hate Duke bad enough over the miracle shot against UK years ago & because they play in the ACC. But Last night my ESPN Steak for the Cash was up to 7 wins in a row & I pick Duke to beat Wisconsin. Why did I pick Duke, because the Badgers had lost their 2 best players from last year's squad & hey Duke is Duke!...well Duke got smoked & was never really in the game even though they final was only a 4 point difference.
The Big 10 man handled the ACC this week other than Michigan St losing a close one to UNC at Chapel Hill.
But again...I hate DUKE!!!

I can't wait for the Tar Heels to come to Rupp this saturday as UK will blow them out of the stadium & back to north carolina.

Should be a good matchup. What happens if NC wins,,,UK gotta give their big boy shorts back?

How bad is the PAC 10 this year?
How good is the Big 12?

whew!!! after Wall got hurt he kinda lost his intensity & let North Carolina back in the game. But UK prevailed as I knew they would & I think they are alot better than UNC than the score showed.

Well UK pulled out another close game & it was a big one playing UConn at Madison Square garden.
After Kentucky grabbed that 12-0 lead they just quit it seemed like with John Wall on the bench & I thought for sure they was gonna blow the game, but Wall stepped up again & led them to UK's biggest victory imo since winning their last National championship. I say that because the game being on ESPN in primetime & being played at MSG made it a great stage to show off John Wall & their other players.
I think this game will help UK when the votes come out this week as they are currently #4 & I think people around the country see now why we UK people have been saying Wall is maybe the best player in the country.

My Nova goes to 9-0 after beating their rival, St. Joeseph's. I was pumped about their record, but after looking at their schedule, i realized they haven't played shit yet!!!

Well UK pulled out another close game & it was a big one playing UConn at Madison Square garden.
After Kentucky grabbed that 12-0 lead they just quit it seemed like with John Wall on the bench & I thought for sure they was gonna blow the game, but Wall stepped up again & led them to UK's biggest victory imo since winning their last National championship. I say that because the game being on ESPN in primetime & being played at MSG made it a great stage to show off John Wall & their other players.
I think this game will help UK when the votes come out this week as they are currently #4 & I think people around the country see now why we UK people have been saying Wall is maybe the best player in the country.

UK is loaded. If they don't win it all this year or next,,it will surprise me. If they can keep Wall healthy,,,,,the season is but a couple of weeks in and he's already getting nicked. Whats gonna happen when they hit SEC play??????

Wall is unreal...one of the better guards I've seen in a loooong time. Having said that - I really don't think UK wins it all. To be honest no team has really impressed me too much at this point - everyone seems to have weaknesses.

Wall is unreal...one of the better guards I've seen in a loooong time. Having said that - I really don't think UK wins it all. To be honest no team has really impressed me too much at this point - everyone seems to have weaknesses.

UK has had a couple of tight games. this be expected with a new coach, new team,,,,basically new everything. Don't get me wrong, being a UT fan it will be exciting when we beat UK, and to be honest,,,it will be fun to watch the best NCAA "bought" team go down in flames. What has me worried is that the SEC has 3 east teams in the top 10,,,gonna be a rough go round to keep UK from the tourney.

UK is loaded. If they don't win it all this year or next,,it will surprise me. If they can keep Wall healthy,,,,,the season is but a couple of weeks in and he's already getting nicked. Whats gonna happen when they hit SEC play??????

He just got dehydrated last week against UNC & I am sure they have showed him how to avoid that in the future.

The bad thing is how many besides Wall will depart for the NBA after this year. They already said Wall would have been the #1 pick this year if it wasn't for the 1 year rule. Those other guys, Demarcus Cousins & Eric Rudolph look very good..
Reminds me of Ohio St a few years ago when they got one year out of Greg Oden, Mike Conley, & another guy named Cook as they went to the finals & lost to a senior filled Florida team & all three took off for the NBA. Oden was #1 pick overall, Conley was a 1st rd pick & Cook went in 2nd rd.

My Nova goes to 9-0 after beating their rival, St. Joeseph's. I was pumped about their record, but after looking at their schedule, i realized they haven't played shit yet!!!

looks like their schedule started,,,,today. tough loss.

Love me some bacon....Baylor vs. Arkansas 12/30 ESPN2

Love me some bacon....Baylor vs. Arkansas 12/30 ESPN2

I really like Baylor's chances to win that game. They have played well this year & beat a couple decent teams.

I don't want to "jinx" UK but after the hartford game the rest of the schedule is the SEC except for Louisville & UK is home for that one, but I think UK has a realistic shot at going undefeated.

I know that is a real longshot but the only other ranked SEC teams are the Vols & Ole Miss. I do think the Vols are legit but I think Ole Miss is a bit overrated.

I have watched every UK game except for 2 that was not telivised against scrub teams. In watching you can see that there are other players on that team not named John Wall & that is a great thing for UK. They have patrick patterson who is a jr or sr & he is beginning to make a real impact.
And because John Wall has been so freaking awesome alot of people forgot we also have another player who was ranked in the top 5 of every player rankings in the nation & that's Demarcus Cousins who like Patterson is starting to make a real impact. And we got another very highly recruited frosh in Eric Rudolph & he is coming along.

It just seems that UK is about ready to really come together as a team & have a great leader in John Wall who is easily the best in college right now imo & I think UK has a legit shot at not losing. The 3 games I am really concerned about are the 2 games against Tennessee of course & I hate when we have to play Louisville as Pitino is a better coach than Calipari. But the more UK keeps winning the harder teams are gonna try to take them out & if they lose it'll probably be to some lousy SEC team :lol:

I know, I know I am bragging too much about UK...but hey it's been awhile ;)

Spanked those pigs in North Little Rock. Nice to beat beat them by 23 in their own house. Bears are playing some serious D. Held them to 31% field goals.

UK is loaded. If they don't win it all this year or next,,it will surprise me. If they can keep Wall healthy,,,,,the season is but a couple of weeks in and he's already getting nicked. Whats gonna happen when they hit SEC play??????

Nah, they will be put on probation, follows Calipari like a ghost.

How about that West Virginia/Purdue game today. I followed it on the CBS Gametracker today & Purdue came out in the 2nd half & just blowed WVU off the court. You will rarely ever see a Bob Huggins coached team get outcoached & outplayed like they did in the 2nd half today.

Purdue is a beast. Right now my final 4 picks are UK, Purdue, Texas, & W Virginia. Of course it doesn't matter as only injury can keep UK from winning it all. ;) Seriously Purdue & Texas are gonna be so tough to beat imo along with UK, WVU, Michigan St & Kansas that you will have to bring your "A" game every night in the tourney to get far. There are more great teams this year than I have seen in awhile.

My Bears slapped the Gamecocks around in Columbia. I'm starting to be a believer.

Oh man this is gonna be a big one....UK & Louisville hasn't even played a minute yet & they are about ready to brawl as UK is probably gonna lose Demarcus Cousins on a flagrant 45 seconds into the game....GO UK!!!!

It's on CBS right now.

whew! they only gave Cousins a technical...6 fouls called in the 1st 45 seconds...let's get it on!!!! UK ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!

My Bears slapped the Gamecocks around in Columbia. I'm starting to be a believer.

After I read your post I went & looked at their schedule & I am very impressed. I would have pegged Baylor to have 4-5 losses by now.
They haven't played a "real good" team yet but they have played a heckuva lot stronger schedule than Kansas has. Looks like Baylor could be a real sleeper, I will have to try & catch them on TV soon. That Kansas State team is looking pretty good also in that league. Even though Kansas is #1 & I believe they are very, very good I think Texas is gonna be the team to beat in the big 12.

Good Luck with those Bears!

Gotta say that I'm liking KU. Texas isn't far behind.

Bring on the Sooners! Bears are loaded this year.
Current national statistics
30th in FG%
8th in FG% allowed
Ekpe Udoh is 8th in Rebound and 4th in Blocks (had a triple double last night)
Quincy Acy 4th in FG%
Tweety Carter 3rd in Assists
Dunn, Carter, and Udoh average +14
Second Tallest team in NCAA (behind UK)

Fight On, SC!!

:(

Cheat on SC...


Sorry Sobay, couldn't resist.

So nice to paste OU by 31:D

lol @ Kansas. Lost to Tennessee, a team that had four players arrested about a week ago.

If Kentucky isn't ranked #1 in the new poll something is seriously wrong!!!

If Kentucky isn't ranked #1 in the new poll something is seriously wrong!!!

Texas has a case as well

If Kentucky isn't ranked #1 in the new poll something is seriously wrong!!!

Tennessee should be. :thumbsup: At least until we get our cheeks tarnished down at Ol Miss next week.

Texas was #2...I don't see how they can't be #1 since they've been pasting everyone they play. There will definitely be votes for Kentucky, but Texas will get more.

UK is but 3 shots away from being a 3 loss team. For all the hype and talent they need to step up a bit. Not so certain their "heart" is equal to their "talent".

UK is now 17-0!!! It is so great to watch UK as we do have the best player in college hoops in John Wall but we are coming together as a team & so many players are contibuting every single game now. We are gonna be hard to beat.

Whew,,,Tennessee pulled off a sweet one today,,,,beat Ol Miss in OT. Tight game but it all came down to hustle. Pearl has his boys playing over the top.

How anybody thinks Kentucky isn't by far better than Kansas & Texas is beyond me. I just seen Texas get their butt handed to them by a good Kansas St. team but what was so bad is nobody from Texas stepped up to even give the Horns a chance.
It is gonna take somebody's "A" game & an "off night" by Kentucky for them to lose as they are so strong in the paint & then you got John Wall running the floor, they are just unreal to watch.

They are loaded with freshman is the only reason I think they may lose a couple games as they will have a tuff one at Tennessee & unless they blow Saturday's game they will be #1 wich comes with a target of everybody trying to take you down, but I think as long as they stay healthy it is UK ALL THE WAY!!!

The Big 12 will continue to eat their own. It is by far the toughest conference top to bottom. Road wins are so tough to get. Texas and Kansas will definitely lose some more.

#1 in the country...

THE KENTUCKY WILDCATS!

Oh yeah how sweet it is to be back on top & to have a team that is good enuff to possibly hold all the way until they win the finals...but a tuff road to go in the world of SEC hoops.


And Texas...OUCH!, 2 losses in the week they are named #1 for the 1st time ever I believe. The 1st loss to Kansas St was understandable as they are a solid team with a great coach & it is so hard to win all those conference games, but then they got hammered by a average at best UConn team, Texas has a ways to go yet. And I hope all those 18 year old kids Kentucky has doesn't think they "have arrived" since they are #1 or they will get their butts kicked also, but I seriously doubt they lose this week. We shall see though as College Hoops is really getting good the last couple weeks & only gonna get better.

And 18 is #1 I finally got to watch your Baylor Bears play Kansas. Even though they lost I thought they looked very good as Kansas is a pretty tuff team, & if I am not mistaken that game was at Kansas. If I see them play another couple games like that they will definitely be a great sleeper pick to go to the final 8 in my tourney bracket. But that may not be a good thing for me to say as I am terrible at those brackets... :lol::lol::lol:

SC played a great game. I'm a UK fan and I'm sad to see them lose but I knew they couldn't go undefeated.

How anybody thinks Kentucky isn't by far better than Kansas & Texas is beyond me. I just seen Texas get their butt handed to them by a good Kansas St. team but what was so bad is nobody from Texas stepped up to even give the Horns a chance. It is gonna take somebody's "A" game & an "off night" by Kentucky for them to lose as they are so strong in the paint & then you got John Wall running the floor, they are just unreal to watch.

They are loaded with freshman is the only reason I think they may lose a couple games as they will have a tuff one at Tennessee & unless they blow Saturday's game they will be #1 wich comes with a target of everybody trying to take you down, but I think as long as they stay healthy it is UK ALL THE WAY!!!

The same can be said for KU. Or any of the elite teams. Tennessee played out of their butts and KU was looking past them. Also, it's EXTREMELY difficult for a team to go undefeated, or even having just TWO losses. And as far as Texas goes, K-State is ranked #11. They aren't exactly a slouch.

By the way, Kentucky lost tonight. I'm not going to talk about how much worse they are like you said about KU, but they lost as soon as they became #1. But you knew (or had to know) that they were going to lose sometime this season. Hope Kentucky and Kansas can meet in the Finals. It looks like they are the teams to beat. Even if they both lose one or two more times this season.

The same can be said for KU. Or any of the elite teams. Tennessee played out of their butts and KU was looking past them. Also, it's EXTREMELY difficult for a team to go undefeated, or even having just TWO losses. And as far as Texas goes, K-State is ranked #11. They aren't exactly a slouch.

By the way, Kentucky lost tonight. I'm not going to talk about how much worse they are like you said about KU, but they lost as soon as they became #1. But you knew (or had to know) that they were going to lose sometime this season. Hope Kentucky and Kansas can meet in the Finals. It looks like they are the teams to beat. Even if they both lose one or two more times this season.

all i said was UK is way better than Kansas & I sure wasn't tryin to be a jerk as I think Kansas has a very very good team wich I believe I stated on here a few posts' ago & I believe they will be a tuff team to beat come tourney time, but I do think Texas is soooo overrated that it is a joke they are ranked so high, but hey i am no expert. I think baylor & KSU are better than texas. but i don't hate on the Big 12 as I am an avid ACC hater...lol...as i can't stand duke & N carolina.

yea i knew UK would lose i just had to keep posting my wishful thinking until it went away tonight as UK got their butt kicked & what kills me is UK's freshman were the only players to score in the 2nd half, the older guys have to step up & at least help a little. And that Downey kid absolutely threw the ball up a couple times & made shots he could never make again but that is what makes it a great game as Downey played great. But with the way Wall & Cousins played I still have the confidence that UK could handle anyone, just gotta hope they get all their "off nights" out of the way before the tourney.

my final 4 right now would be UK, Kansas, Villanova & West Virginia & I also think that Villanova team is an extremely good team.

props to south carolina & good luck to your guys' teams!

Syracuse should be No. #1 and if they beat Villanova next week...it'll happen.

Syracuse should be No. #1 and if they beat Villanova next week...it'll happen.

It doesn't really matter where they are until the poll before the Tournament seedings. And then of course, the final poll. But I think if KU beats K-State this weekend, they will be #1 in Monday's polls.

It doesn't really matter where they are until the poll before the Tournament seedings. And then of course, the final poll. But I think if KU beats K-State this weekend, they will be #1 in Monday's polls.

I agree, but i also think that cuse can be considered for the number one seed, they are 5-0 against the top 25 teams they have played, all wins by double digits...20-1 overall in the toughest conference in college basketball..and have 2 ranking in the RPI


plus i am a diehard CUSE fan and watching this team it is better than the national championship team that had MELO...ALOT BETTER


kentucky is good, but they got exposed last night, they can't shoot the 3 and they play in a weak SEC...


Kansas is real good, alot of leadership they are big and have experience...CUSE/KANSAS REMATCH would be nice...

Your right in that the Big East is probably the strongest conference this year. I love talkin smack about UK being so great :D ;) but there is a group of about 7-8 teams who are very good & gonna be tuff to beat in March.

2nd to me watching UK there is nothing like watching Big East basketball & there is no other conference tourney like the Big East Tourney as it is always extremely physical & every team seem to bring their "A" game & everything is left on the court by each games end, I love it! I don't know how old you are shooter but I used to would not miss a game of Big east Mondays in the early 80's & their tourney's. players like Chris Mullin, Ewing, Siekaly, Pickney, sleepy Floyd & on & on was just great to watch. And even the coaches, my fave was Lou Carnaseca & you had Rollie Massimino, a young Jim Boehiem & Rick Pitino. Just a great conference every year for hoops & I would not be suprised if the champ comes out of the big east.

Plus I love that Cincinnati is in the Big East now as we get alot more conference news here on our local news sports.

My Tar Heels are sucking ass this season which is actually kind of nice. I just get to kick back, relax and watch the Heels play ball. No expectations and no stress like the past few seasons.

Of course, I'll be stressed out big time come March because I always enter a bracket pool. I really, really get into the games. I root for the teams I pick just as hard as I would root for UNC. No lie, there's been times where I've been on the verge of tears and pulling my hair out during March Madness. I'd say the best example of that in the 2009 tourney was the Siena-OSU game where I picked Siena to win.

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That game was an absolute emotional rollercoaster. Felt totally exhausted and spent after that game. Of course, that Siena W was a key piece in me winning the pool last year.

Winning $600 and seeing the Tar Heels win the National Championship on the same night... doesn't get much better than that. :bowdown:

My Tar Heels are sucking ass this season which is actually kind of nice. I just get to kick back, relax and watch the Heels play ball. No expectations and no stress like the past few seasons.

Of course, I'll be stressed out big time come March because I always enter a bracket pool. I really, really get into the games. I root for the teams I pick just as hard as I would root for UNC. No lie, there's been times where I've been on the verge of tears and pulling my hair out during March Madness. I'd say the best example of that in the 2009 tourney was the Siena-OSU game where I picked Siena to win.

That game was an absolute emotional rollercoaster. Felt totally exhausted and spent after that game. Of course, that Siena W was a key piece in me winning the pool last year.

Winning $600 and seeing the Tar Heels win the National Championship on the same night... doesn't get much better than that. :bowdown:

Hey man I think we all do that...lol...back in the 80's I was in a pool where you paid money to play & you got to draw 1 of the 16 teams from each region & I had #8 seed Villanova when they had Ed Pinckney & they ended up being the 1st #8 to ever win it & believe me I was cursing the refs, yelling at the players telling them what to do or not to do like they could hear me. I was a true mess during that final four, lol.
So I am the same way as I will root for anybody that gets me a WIN on my bracket, even an ACC team. ;)

Big game tomorrow night at 7pm Kansas @ Kansas St., gonna be a very good game to watch. I will have to root for Kansas St. since I am a big fan of their coach Frank martin, who after a few years of assisting the great Bob Huggins has become a good head coach & is doing a great job at KSU imo.
Thing is he better have his troops ready as Kansas is gonna invade that place with the thought of reclaiming their prior spot at #1. So even if you ain't a big 12 fan you will enjoy this game imo as there is gonna be some very good basketball played.
Good luck to you Good to go KC but I am rooting against ya as I will have to break out my KSU hoody to wear tomorrow to bring them luck. :D

But if you guys wanna watch the best in college basketball Kentucky comes on at 4pm against Vandy ;) :lol: I hate when UK plays Vandy as they have been a thorn in UK's side for years when UK has a real good team it seems.

Also a big game at 12 noon between Louisville @ West Virginia. That is three great games in a row tomorrow! As much as I love a great Saturday of college football it does not compare to a lineup of basketball games like this. The only unranked team is Louisville but we know Pitino will have them playing well.
What makes it even better is my 2 favorite coaches & 2 of the best coaches college hoops has ever seen all time, Huggins & Pitino, will be part of it. I know Pitino is a traitor to us UK fans but he is still awesome.

Ok I am rambling on here I think I'll get some sleep....good luck to everybody's team tomorrow...unless your a Vandy fan ;) :hithere:

Yeah, I'm most looking forward to KU vs K-State. Should be a pretty damn good game.

on a side note, my community college's basketball team is 22-0 and has been #1 in the nation (NJCAA, Division 3) since November. I hate that I haven't dragged my ass to a game yet, though. Gonna promise myself that I'll attend next Saturday's game, which is one of the last home games.

LOL. Duke is getting obliterated at Georgetown. 84-63 late in the 2nd half.

LOL. Duke is getting obliterated at Georgetown. 84-63 late in the 2nd half.

Yea G'Town finished them off big time! I know your a UNC fan but I am a ACC hater for the most part & love to see them get beat, mainly Duke & UNC.

LOL. Duke is getting obliterated at Georgetown. 84-63 late in the 2nd half.

It just goes to show how much better the BIG EAST is over the ACC..G-town got smacked a week ago by CUSE and they turn around and bitch slap duke...which i loved b/c i hate DUKE....

K-State is hanging tough, 31-30 KU at the half. KU can't make free throws to save their life and K-State is out-rebounding the Jayhawks. Hope they make some good halftime adjustments because it's a toss up right now.

What a game. 69-69. Going to overtime. Wow.

Props to K-State. What. A. Game. 81-79 KU. The Wildcats made a helluva statement. Watch out for them come tournament time.

If that Kansas/KSU game didn't have ya pumped till the end you need to find another sport....great game from 2 great teams......as a UK fan I would hate to play KSU in the tourney & of course nobody wants 2 play Kansas.....great job by Kansas even though that 2nd string PG almost blew it in OT

Incredible game, which is what I expected it to be. But I can't believe that K-State kid wasn't able to grab the board after KU missed that free throw with like 5 seconds left in OT. :banghead:

Incredible game, which is what I expected it to be. But I can't believe that K-State kid wasn't able to grab the board after KU missed that free throw with like 5 seconds left in OT. :banghead:

that was definitely a heartbreaker for KSU as their faces told the story after that.

I guess I have too much time on my hands as I was sitting around last night after watching all those great games yesterday & had this thought & it might be fun for us to do....

What are the 5 best players you have ever seen play college basketball? Only consider their college career as it does not matter what they done in the NBA, only college...and it can only be players you have seen play in your lifetime.

Here is mine...

1. Elton Brand - Duke (i know that sounds crazy coming from an ACC hater but he was unreal & just dominated the game)
2. Larry Johnson - UNLV (this guy done everything)
3. Shaq - LSU (most dominant & intimidating center i ever seen)
4. Ralph Sampson - Virginia ( 2nd most dominant center i ever seen, never understood why he could do nothing in the NBA)
5. Shane Battier - Duke ( how can a Kentucky fan have 2 duke players & no one from UK??? Gotta give props when they are due & Battier was awesome as he would post up & destroy you in the paint & then step out & drain 3's all night long...unstoppable!)

Other great players I have seen not counting the one & done's since the new NBA rule are Danny Manning, Patrick Ewing, Michael Jordan, James Worthy, Jamaal Mashburn, Sam Bowie, Clyde Drexler, & the hardest one to omit from my top 5 is Hakeem Olajuwon as he led the Phi Slamma Jamma attack along with Drexler.

One more guy I really like to mention when people are talking greatest players...Gerry McNamara - Syracuse - this guy never had a great career but he had a very good one. I mention him cause in 2006 he played with more heart in that Big East tourney than I have ever seen anyone ever play with on a basketball court in my life. Syracuse won 4 games in 4 days to win it the tourney & Mcnamara put on a 4 day performance that was unforgettable. If you seen it you know what I am talking about, but if you didn't see it then it just can't be described with words what that guy done.

New top 25 out today & there is no suprises to me except that Kansas St. is ranked behind Texas. How Texas is even in the top 25 is beyond me, let alone being 10th, maybe I am missing something when watching them.

I would like to have seen Villanova get a shot at being #1 now since UK & KU have had a shot at it. But KU is very deserving, especially with that great win over a tuff kansas St team saturday night. That game is bound to end up being one of maybe the top 3 regular season games this year.

it goes in this order....KU, Villanova, UK, Syr, Mich St, WV, Purdue, G'town, Duke, & Texas

Duke is another team i think is overrated. i think kansas st would beat duke even on duke's floor

Kansas St. is ranked behind Texas. How Texas is even in the top 25 is beyond me, let alone being 10th, maybe I am missing something when watching them.

Brosco- I don't think you appreciate how much parity there is in the Big 12. They are without a doubt the toughest top to bottom conference in America. Big East is nice but has some bottom feeders, but not B12.

Brosco- I don't think you appreciate how much parity there is in the Big 12. They are without a doubt the toughest top to bottom conference in America. Big East is nice but has some bottom feeders, but not B12.

your probably right 18 is #1

The Big East has 16 teams...so of course the 4 lowest teams drag the overall average compared to 12 teams. However, if you just compare the top 12 teams in the BE to the Big 12...then it becomes clear that the BE is the better conference.

Colorado and Nebraska have worse conference records as the #11 and #12 teams then the BE's same spots for Providence and Seton Hall.

The Big East has 16 teams...so of course the 4 lowest teams drag the overall average compared to 12 teams. However, if you just compare the top 12 teams in the BE to the Big 12...then it becomes clear that the BE is the better conference.

Colorado and Nebraska have worse conference records as the #11 and #12 teams then the BE's same spots for Providence and Seton Hall.

Except you can't do that. That's like dropping the bottom 18 teams of a 30 team conference (or whatever, to get to 12, we could go with the bottom 88 of a 100 team conference, of course dropping the bottom teams is going to improve the overall look). They are talking at least 7 teams making the Tournament (that's 58% of the league), maybe 8. What are they saying about the Big East? (I honestly don't know, I am really asking - - -this may prove your point!)

That's exactly my point...any conference that has 20% more teams will always have the disadvantage when comparing with another conference from top to bottom. While you say "you can't do that" when I drop teams to even the numbers...it's just as unfair to compare them the other way around.

BE has 5 ranked teams...the B12 has four. The BE has two teams in the top 5...the B12 has one. The BE has a shot at 7 teams going to the big dance. Those stats are more fairly comparable. But the top-to-bottom thing doesn't work when one has significantly more teams.

What i can't believe is how is Kentucky ranked ahead of Syracuse after the new polls have come out...Just compare their seasons and it should be a no brainer...CUSE is 5-0 against the top 25 teams they played with an avg margin of victory at 13.6 points...kentucky has played three teams in the top 25 and squeaked 2 of them out by a total of 5 points...and they both played UNC and cuse dominated them from the tip winning by 16 compared to kentuckys 2 points...

cuse has an RPI ranking of 2 and plays in the toughest conference compared to Kentucky who plays in a soft SEC and lost to an unranked South Carolina team..

KU should NEVER have let Colorado back in this game. They had them 21-8 and didn't put them away. Hopefully they turn it on in the last 5 minutes and put some gap in there. They don't look like the #1 team tonight. (They have only made 13 of 27 Free Throws so far, grrrrr)

Well KU pulls it out but had to go to OT to do it. 72-66 win in a game that should have been over in the first half. Definitely didn't look like #1 tonight. They looked more like #2 (think about it!) until the overtime.

Well KU pulls it out but had to go to OT to do it. 72-66 win in a game that should have been over in the first half. Definitely didn't look like #1 tonight. They looked more like #2 (think about it!) until the overtime.

it seems as soon as someone takes over the number one ranking they always lose or almost lose their next game...

It was not a good day for the top teams yesterday.

#2 'Nova, #5 Michigan State, #10 Texas, #12 Brigham Young, #17 Temple and #24 Baylor all lost. Only Villanova lost to a ranked team (#8 G'Town).

KU and Kentucky won. The Jayhawks looked like a #1 again, going up by 18 late before coasting at the end. Syracuse plays today.

Conference play can produce a lot of upsets.

Syracuse creeps up to #2 in the AP poll.

"Big 12 conf # 1 in the RPI again....how about these #'s. The 6 power conf records 4 the season playing one another...

BIG 12 28-12
ACC 24-21
SEC 25-26
BIG EAST 19-21
BIG 10 18-20
Pac -10 9-24

Big 12 home non-conf record. 106-1 !!!"

Pac -10 9-24


that's pathetic!!!!!!!
:lol:
is this a year where they get one bid to the dance and it's as an 8 or 9 seed?

OK State put it to the Jayhawks today. Great performance by the Cowboys. Made KU look really bad most of the game.

Bad day for top teams.

thanks

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good day to be a Vol fan!!!!!!!!!!:yippee::yippee::yippee::yippee::yipp ee::yippee::yippee::yippee::yippee::yippee::yippee ::yippee::yippee:

even better to be a SYRACUSE fan...number 1 seed here we come

No. 1 seed and No. 1 ranking overall for the Orange after Purdue lost today.

No. 1 seed and No. 1 ranking overall for the Orange after Purdue lost today.

Oops!

Perhaps not. :D

Syracuse will still be a No. 1 seed in the tourney, at least I would think they will be. This should be a great tournament. No clear cut favorite, although if I have to pick one team, I pick Kansas. Kansas, Duke, Kentucky and Syracuse for No. 1 seeds? Can't pick any further without seeing the brackets, but there will be some surprises this year, more than usual is my guess.

Chris

Syracuse will still be a No. 1 seed in the tourney, at least I would think they will be. This should be a great tournament. No clear cut favorite, although if I have to pick one team, I pick Kansas. Kansas, Duke, Kentucky and Syracuse for No. 1 seeds? Can't pick any further without seeing the brackets, but there will be some surprises this year, more than usual is my guess.

Chris
I agree with that. My comment was for the #1 overall seed.

Looks like Kansas will get that as long as they win a couple games in the Conference Tourney. Although I like seeing them play as underdogs as they were in the 08 Final Four. Should be a great tournament, can't wait for it to start.

me hope is that UK gets a number 1 seed,,,,,only to be knocked off in their first game. Gotta love the madness. :D

I agree with that. My comment was for the #1 overall seed.

Looks like Kansas will get that as long as they win a couple games in the Conference Tourney. Although I like seeing them play as underdogs as they were in the 08 Final Four. Should be a great tournament, can't wait for it to start.

Kansas is really good and of the higher ranked teams, Duke is the sleeper to me. Duke has three really good players that have played together a long time now. Singler had a bit of a disappointing Junior year considering his Freshman and Sophomore years but has played great recently. Duke didn't play well at times this year but looks ready now. The three guys can handle the ball, hit 3-pointers and do whatever is necessary to win. Of course the role players have to contribute as well but those three are going to go score 55 to 60 points a game in the playoffs.

I expect Duke to blow through the ACC tournament although this is a down year for the ACC. The winner will come from one of the four top seeds but no more than two will make it to the final four is my guess.

Chris

me guess is that no more than 2 will make it to the final game. :D gotta love the madness.

me guess is that no more than 2 will make it to the final game. :D gotta love the madness.

I am going to agree with that and go one further, no more than 1 will win that final game.

Chris

I am going to agree with that and go one further, no more than 1 will win that final game.

Chris

Wonder if we can get anybody to bet on the last two predictions?:lol:

Duke is the sleeper to me. Duke has three really good players that have played together a long time now. Singler had a bit of a disappointing Junior year considering his Freshman and Sophomore years but has played great recently. Duke didn't play well at times this year but looks ready now. The three guys can handle the ball, hit 3-pointers and do whatever is necessary to win. Of course the role players have to contribute as well but those three are going to go score 55 to 60 points a game in the playoffs.

ACC representatives will be paper tigers at this years tournament. Duke is the only threat to make the sweet 16 out of the ACC but will not go to the elite 8.

This coming from a long time Duke and ACC fan.........:(

ACC representatives will be paper tigers at this years tournament. Duke is the only threat to make the sweet 16 out of the ACC but will not go to the elite 8.

This coming from a long time Duke and ACC fan.........:(

Duke is the only team that looks good on paper this year. There may be a surprise team from the ACC make it to the sweet 16 but this is definitely the worst ACC year in memory for me.

Chris

KU moves back to #1. Kentucky also moved up one spot while Syracuse fell two spots to #3. Duke was fourth. Sounds like a pretty good Final Four group to me.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/polls (http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/polls)

K-State fell to ninth with two straight losses. Baylor and Texas A&M also made the top 25. The Big 12 still has seven teams in the top 38 of the RPI rankings.

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_Men.html (http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_Men.html)

hey,,,,,,Tennessee beat both those teams in the #1 & #2 spots.:D

hey,,,,,,Tennessee beat both those teams in the #1 & #2 spots.:D
On any given day . . . :D

Problem is, they lost to a lot of other teams. Dallas, Tampa and Carolina beat the Saints this past season.

I still find it amazing Tennessee has done so well after all they went through earlier this season. They could cause some teams some problems in the tourney.

On any given day . . . :D

Problem is, they lost to a lot of other teams. Dallas, Tampa and Carolina beat the Saints this past season.

I still find it amazing Tennessee has done so well after all they went through earlier this season. They could cause some teams some problems in the tourney.

tennessee be playing some good ball,,but to get beyond the 16 would really be pushing it for em. but me would love nothing more than to see UK get picked off early. Very early.

As much as I bleed the Blue of kentucky Wildcat basketball & am a huge fan of John Wall, I have to admit I agree with all of these ESPN "experts" that Evan Turner should win the NCAA Basketball Player of the year....at least he's a Buckeye lol

I think Wall is a close 2nd & will have a much better NBA career but it's about now & you gotta give Turner the credit as he had Ohio St. playing great basketball, then he gets hurt for about 5 weeks & Ohio St dropped off but now that he has been back they have been very strong & now a very legitimate shot at the Final Four. At least from what I have seen out of them the last 2-3 weeks I think they have a great shot.

And today the way he finished that game with that unbelivable drive up the court with only 2.2 second & drained that game winning 3 pointer from a mile away no doubt took away any doubts the voter may have had of voting him Player of the year.

tennessee be playing some good ball,,but to get beyond the 16 would really be pushing it for em. but me would love nothing more than to see UK get picked off early. Very early.

oblioman you might get your wish if UK comes out in the first weekend thinking they can just go thru the motions. They are young & sometimes it shows as they have had waaaaay to many games where they had to play catch up this year & there was no reason for it as they are too good to have to catch up to a .500 late in the 2nd half.

I think this will be a crazy tournament as after Kansas & UK it is a wide open field. Ohio St. is on fire right now but it's gonna be tuff to pick.

I have 2 darkhorses..... New Mexico, I know they are #9 but they haven't played nobody but could slip in there & beat some of the big boys. I like your Vols also because of Bruce Pearl as that guy is awesome as he brings so much energy to the games. If I had a kid going to play big time hoops I would love for him to play for Bruce Pearl.

But no matter what I will have to say this has been a great season for me as there is nothing more satisfying than seeing the tarheels play like crap all year long....they SUCK! I remember when UK beat them I was so happy & then Syracuse whipped by about 25 I thought wow & then within a couple weeks I realized anybody could beat those sorry Heels....And Duke is sooo overrated also. It's great!!!!

Bracket day!

Mississippi State got mugged. hope they make the cut.

The bracket people have always showed East teams favor over the rest of the country & today was no different.

But it is what it is...let's play ball!!!!

Go UK!

this be easy. All me Vols have to do is win 5 games,,,and be national champions!!!! we've already beat the #1 seed in our group.

this be easy. All me Vols have to do is win 5 games,,,and be national champions!!!! we've already beat the #1 seed in our group.

That's a good way to look at it :) I could see the Vols winning 2 games but Ohio St is absolutely on fire right now so I think it would be hard to beat OSU...but hey it's the NCAA & nothing in the past matters once they start thursday...bring on the madness!!!!

I also believe the day is coming when a #16 is gonna beat a #1 & it could happen this year I think even though the odds of it are a bazillion to one. But I say it happens within the next 5 years if not this year.

I don't understand that if teams 64 & 65 have to play in that play in game because they are the weakest teams in it then why does the #3 of the #1 seeds, Duke, get to play them & not the #1 overall seed Kansas? I mean Kansas could win their 1st round game with their 2nd string but still I would think they would play the team considered the worst.

That's a good way to look at it :) I could see the Vols winning 2 games but Ohio St is absolutely on fire right now so I think it would be hard to beat OSU...but hey it's the NCAA & nothing in the past matters once they start thursday...bring on the madness!!!!

I also believe the day is coming when a #16 is gonna beat a #1 & it could happen this year I think even though the odds of it are a bazillion to one. But I say it happens within the next 5 years if not this year.

I don't understand that if teams 64 & 65 have to play in that play in game because they are the weakest teams in it then why does the #3 of the #1 seeds, Duke, get to play them & not the #1 overall seed Kansas? I mean Kansas could win their 1st round game with their 2nd string but still I would think they would the team considered the worst.

ETSU - 64 UK - 59,,,,could happen this year. :D

ETSU - 64 UK - 59,,,,could happen this year. :D

yea it could, but sadly for shooter it will be the team in Orange if it happens this year ;) hey just look at who Vermont upset the last time they were in the tourney.

And your a good man oblioman but I hate to tell ya your Vols are gonna get a whipping from the Buckeyes IF they make it that far....but it won't be as bad as the whipping the KENTUCKY WILDCATS just put on those Vols. :)

It's gonna be a bad year for teams in orange....lol

Whoever started our HDF NCAA bracket last year, are you gonna start up another one this year?...I need to improve on my last place finish :o

Whoever started our HDF NCAA bracket last year, are you gonna start up another one this year?...I need to improve on my last place finish :o

I thought SOBAY already has one and a thread too. I still need to sign up.

EDIT: Here ya go: http://www.highdefforum.com/sports-forum/110054-our-annual-ncaa-tournament-bracket-challenge-sign-up.html (http://www.highdefforum.com/sports-forum/110054-our-annual-ncaa-tournament-bracket-challenge-sign-up.html)

yea it could, but sadly for shooter it will be the team in Orange if it happens this year ;) hey just look at who Vermont upset the last time they were in the tourney.

And your a good man oblioman but I hate to tell ya your Vols are gonna get a whipping from the Buckeyes IF they make it that far....but it won't be as bad as the whipping the KENTUCKY WILDCATS just put on those Vols. :)

It's gonna be a bad year for teams in orange....lol


Me Vols won't get a crack at the Buckeyes,,,SDSU matches up pretty good with TN,,just hope we can get past the first game.

Me Vols won't get a crack at the Buckeyes,,,SDSU matches up pretty good with TN,,just hope we can get past the first game.

aaahh i think your just being modest. while SDSU could beat Tennessee or anybody on the right day I just don't see the Vols with a coach like bruce pearl taking a 1st round exit, they are just a bit too good for that. after that though they's probably have to play G'Town & then OSU.

but i know how ya feel as i am the same way about UK & they have more talent than they have had in about 15 years. while those #1 seeds are nice for teams to get, once that first tip off starts the game you just never know who will win. I expect UK to be in the finals but if they lost in the 1st or 2nd round I wouldn't be shocked....crushed yes, but not shocked as these teams are getting more even each & every year.
Wich is why it blows me away that NCAA football sees the fun that march madness brings to the fans because of the parity, but they still say a tournament is not right for football :confused:

Good Luck to your Vols!