LittleLion
11-07-2009, 03:00 PM
Hi Guys, great forum you have here, love the know how and experience going on here. I was a Microwave Com guy in the air farce back in the late 70's and since have not messed with com to much.
Like most of you guys I want to get rid of pay TV and as evidenced by the png from tvfool I have many options in the 225 deg. direction.
4574
My problem is a huge clump of trees @ 225 deg in my neighbors yard! The trees are about 50 feet high and 50 feet wide and about 150 feet away from where I want to mount my roof antenna!
There is nothing magical that has happened in the last 35 years since my days of los microwave communications that will allow uhf/vhf signals to penetrate trees is there? :mad:
LL
IDRick
11-07-2009, 03:09 PM
Welcome to the forum! :)
What type of trees? Evergreens attenuate the signal more than deciduous trees.
Nearly all your signals are UHF so you could use a high gain UHF only antenna such as the XG-91 or DB-8 antenna. The only two nearby high VHF channel are KULX and KUTF. Are these stations important to you? KUTF is telemundo, a spanish channel and be easy to acquire with a separate VHF antenna. The two antennas could be joined to a single downlead with a UVSJ joiner.
HTH
Rick
JB Antennaman
11-07-2009, 03:32 PM
I would walk the antenna's before I installed them.
You might find a spot in the yard where reception is better.
Maybe you could get someone to dig you a hole and put up a telephone pole out in the yard and install them on a pole or you could purchase a tower.
You might find that a move of only 8 feet might be the difference between a perfect picture and nothing at all.
Height might not be as important as a clear line of sight.
Maybe you could convince the neighbor to cut down one of the trees or let you remove some of the branches on one side of the tree?
jim5506
11-07-2009, 03:57 PM
The signals are strong enough that with a good UHF antenna (as recommended above) you should have no problem receiving all channels down to 39, maybe more.
Billiam
11-08-2009, 08:03 AM
If these trees are deciduous I'd recommend unleashing one or more of the following at the base of these trees:
A horde of termites
Gypsy Moths
Emerald Ash Borer
Asian Longhorn Beetle
Elm Bark Beetle
Tent Caterpickles
For Pine Cone bearing trees the following work best:
Bark Beetles
Pale and White Pine Weevils
Spruce Budworm
Tussock Moth
Wooly Adelgids
It may take a while to achieve the desired result but I am confident that these little buggers will do the job effectively and you'll then have a clear shot at the signals you desire. LOL
I am also faced with a similar problem with my current home search. One home that interests me has a wall of Nevergreens in the backyard and they are only about 50 feet from the house. I suspect every Red signal in TV Fool from that direction will be greatly diminished by the trees and I won't have the option of putting up a tower over 30 feet which would be the only way to get around the problem.
Perhaps ganging two antennas may help with your situation?
Midwest Dxer
11-08-2009, 09:19 AM
Hi Guys, great forum you have here, love the know how and experience going on here. I was a Microwave Com guy in the air farce back in the late 70's and since have not messed with com to much.
Like most of you guys I want to get rid of pay TV and as evidenced by the png from tvfool I have many options in the 225 deg. direction.
4574
My problem is a huge clump of trees @ 225 deg in my neighbors yard! The trees are about 50 feet high and 50 feet wide and about 150 feet away from where I want to mount my roof antenna!
There is nothing magical that has happened in the last 35 years since my days of los microwave communications that will allow uhf/vhf signals to penetrate trees is there? :mad:
LL
You must have a very tall house-the chart based on 100ft!
At any rate,the trees should pose no problem at 17 miles other than a little multipath when it's windy.
Small Engine
11-08-2009, 06:38 PM
If these trees are deciduous I'd recommend unleashing one or more of the following at the base of these trees:
A horde of termites
Gypsy Moths
Emerald Ash Borer
Asian Longhorn Beetle
Elm Bark Beetle
Tent Caterpickles
For Pine Cone bearing trees the following work best:
Bark Beetles
Pale and White Pine Weevils
Spruce Budworm
Tussock Moth
Wooly Adelgids
It may take a while to achieve the desired result but I am confident that these little buggers will do the job effectively and you'll then have a clear shot at the signals you desire. LOL
TY TY :bowdown:
I actually printed off your list !
:devil2
Billiam
11-09-2009, 11:22 AM
TY TY :bowdown:
I actually printed off your list !
:devil2
Just another hard day's work at the Drano Mine. ;)
NonMcTubber
11-09-2009, 02:56 PM
To LittleLion,
Just to clarify, do you have an existing antenna system the trees are interfering with, or are you letting your fear of trees stop you from even trying.
Given your TV fool report, you have enough strong channels that enough signal should get through. In my case, my exact antenna aim is
right at a big silver maple 100 feet away, and I notice no reception difference between leaves in the summer and no leaves in the winter.
